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My first suggestion would be to look at healing your body as a whole. Research info on Raw food diets and juicing. You will find that a lot of times we come down with these problems becuase of the life styles we live. We do not give our body's what they need to defend or heal them selves, and in fact, a lot of the stuff we consume is hurting us. We are constantly stressing our bodies, and they can only take so much. This gives way to harmful pathogens to setup shop. Consider your prostate problem like a warning flag. I beleive this is actually a blessing in disguise for me. If I can rebuild my body well enough that it can heal this problem, I think that a lot of chronic illness that I was heading toward may be prevented as well.

Once you get your body healing with the proper nutrients, and stop running it down with the usual crap we consume, then its time to start looking at natural pathogen killers.

This is the route I am taking.

By no means am I even close to being someone who can give health advice, so do some research and come to your own conclusions.

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I am starting H202 oral dosages today.
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I appreciate it! At this point i am more inclined to listen to people that have the problem because the doctors i have seen are worthless and dont listen to anything i have to say.
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bang on fly far. sad but true. they can make you worse like me. the trust factor in mds is gone. the blinders off. they are the truly sick people.
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I appreciate it! At this point i am more inclined to listen to people that have the problem because the doctors i have seen are worthless and dont listen to anything i have to say.
Just remember doctors are just people like you and me with a job. I know I don't always give 100% at my job, and I work with people that never do. Also medicine is just a science, and science is mostly theory. Its is considered fact until someone comes up with a theory that works better, that most of their peers agree with.
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Reposting this link that has some info, for those who haven't looked at it yet. Start with the third paragraph under 'Prostate Health'...'Prostatitis'.

https://www.peacefulmind.com/prostate.htm
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@kind2creatures thanks for this! this will be very helpful. @jofus i have read both positive and negative things on H2O2 will you let me know how that works for you. thanks
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I couldn't agree with you more Jofus.

I've been aflicted with this for over 25 yrs, and what I discovered throughout this journey to wellness is like peeling away layers of an onion to get to the root core of the disorder.

Through intense investigation via the wealth of knowledge collectively from you all and several other forums, I was able to develop as well as follow a treatment plan tailored for my particular situation. Granted, we're all physiologically unique however the similiarities we share from our symptoms are valuable with regards to promoting healing. After all:
"in a multitude of counselors you'll find safety."

The source of my affliction was fungal overgrowth from various strains of candida albicans. Upon establishing balance in the digestive tract, the liver was next. This was information recieved from previous posts on the forum. And then the thyroid which is the most important.

And I made this a committment to be consistent by sticking with a diet and a nutritional regime that offers measurable results you feel. Not a radical diet change that I know couldn't achieve.

Aside from the creator, who knows your body better than you?
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@flyfar of course I will always update with any progress I find

@kamerongroup good post, I very much agree.
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medicine is just a science, and science is mostly theory. Its is considered fact until someone comes up with a theory that works better, that most of their peers agree with.
This is called a paragdim shift, and this will rarely happen.

Medicine will stick to their old ways til Hell freezes over. Look how long it took to link tobacco to cancer, when these facts were known in the 1950's. They tell us that fluoride should be in drinking water because it is good for teeth. Adding fluoride to drinking water makes about as much sense as adding shampoo to drinking water so it can help your hair.

And lets not forget their newest lies... HIV causes AIDS, and AIDS is spread sexually. That is a load of crap, but as long as they are funded through the taxpayer, they will continue to sell us these lies.

Medicine, like most doctors, is wrong more often then right. Most doctors still think vaccines are life savers, when in fact history will see vaccines as a 200 year old mistake...
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The source of my affliction was fungal overgrowth from various strains of candida albicans.
The fungal overgrowth was most likely due to several rounds of antibiotics when you were a kid.

Once the yeast penetrates the intestinal wall, the fungal infection is no longer limited to the digestive tract. To fully understand how this systemic infection takes over the body, it is necessary to know that sugar and simple carbs feed these one-celled organisms, and since the body is dark, moist, and of proper temperature, they rapidly multiply.

These infections form tumors, and they excreet mycotoxins, which cause inflammation, etc. These fungal tumors are difficult to kill because they are formed in layers. Yes, you could take supplements, however, they will only kill the outside layers, so the problem will never go away.

It is necessary to starve these tumors by eliminating all forms of sugar from the diet as well as foods that easily break down into sugars. Complex carbs are ok to eat as long as they are eaten with fibre. Next, it is necessary to get prescription Nistatin and/or Diflucan to treat these fungal infections. It is also necessary to take some natural antifungals such as coconut oil, grapefruit seed extract, Pau D' arco, and colloidal silver for a long time, since it takes awhile to kill fungus.

It is necessary to avoid all grains, such as going on the phase one diet. You can find information on that by going to www.knowthecause.com


On a final note, since prostate problems are caused by fungus, it is necessary to know that once you are infected, you can easily pass it on to your wife/girlfriend. This will cause her to have vaginal yeast infection, and then it becomes a revolving door as you take turns infecting each other.
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omg once again i have listened to doctors and they have told me this is not something that can be passed on. i begged for fungus tests i said on day one it must be a fungus because i had no std or way of suddenly getting an infection.

now is it possible this whole nightmare statred with me contracting a yeast infection? or could it be an infection coming from my intestines?

lastly i am on the candida diet and just made a mistake. tired and while visiting my nana i ate sugar yougart. i did it like in a trance. how bad did i screw up? did i throw away a weeks cleanse? i feel terrble for doing it.

thanks for any informed answers. yeast won the battle this week i am guessing
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The fungal overgrowth was most likely due to several rounds of antibiotics when you were a kid.

Once the yeast penetrates the intestinal wall, the fungal infection is no longer limited to the digestive tract. To fully understand how this systemic infection takes over the body, it is necessary to know that sugar and simple carbs feed these one-celled organisms, and since the body is dark, moist, and of proper temperature, they rapidly multiply.

These infections form tumors, and they excreet mycotoxins, which cause inflammation, etc. These fungal tumors are difficult to kill because they are formed in layers. Yes, you could take supplements, however, they will only kill the outside layers, so the problem will never go away.

It is necessary to starve these tumors by eliminating all forms of sugar from the diet as well as foods that easily break down into sugars. Complex carbs are ok to eat as long as they are eaten with fibre. Next, it is necessary to get prescription Nistatin and/or Diflucan to treat these fungal infections. It is also necessary to take some natural antifungals such as coconut oil, grapefruit seed extract, Pau D' arco, and colloidal silver for a long time, since it takes awhile to kill fungus.

It is necessary to avoid all grains, such as going on the phase one diet. You can find information on that by going to www.knowthecause.com


On a final note, since prostate problems are caused by fungus, it is necessary to know that once you are infected, you can easily pass it on to your wife/girlfriend. This will cause her to have vaginal yeast infection, and then it becomes a revolving door as you take turns infecting each other.
Actually as a child through adolescence, I was rarely given antibiotics.
But I do believe excessive amalgam fillings (mercury) among other factors attributed to the invasion via toxicity. Although while in college I contracted an non-gonnacle urethritis which was treated with tetracycline.

However since addressing the thyroid and liver imbalance as well as incorporating herbs and supplements which are antifungal, progressively I've noticed the symptoms have been totally eliminated.
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At one point during my illness I stopped taking most of the supplements and narrowed it down to 2 supplements for prostatitis and a supplement for my joints ( they were messed up by three months of antibiotics) before that i was taking a lot.

I think it is a good idea to simplify things, so you can narrow down whats working and whats not.

jofus, I have never tried mms or been on the diet you are on, but if what you are doing is a detox, it is very normal to experience an extreme low morale since your body is releasing a ton of toxins into your blood stream and working your immune system/liver/kidneys very hard.

I remember doing a detox regime and actually having predictable mood swings during the process.

I am 100% better, have sex all the time, and am in better shape then when I was "diagnosed"

I do clearly remember my symptoms seeming better after taking a crap, for a little while.

Having symptoms 24/7 is the worst i dont know if thats where you are at now, But that was definitely the hardest part.
I remember being really depressed when i was only having symptoms for an hour a day, just because it seemed like it would always be there.
@puresong what supplements did you find that worked best for you?
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I took a strong antioxident blend called "AntiOxident power" by a company called super nutrition.
I took grapeseed extract because of the powerful bioflavinoid it contains.

Before this i was taking a lot of prostate specific supplements, but I was really not getting any better. Eventually I recieved some advice, which was to focus on my overall health instead of pretending like one drug can just effect my prostate.

Later on in my recovery I just took a special kind of bamboo and a special kind of seaweed, at this point I was also doing yoga everyday.

I focused on eating healthy for my whole body not just my prostate. Instead of limiting your diet, I would advise you to concentrate on finding healthy things to eat, this would have the same desired effect without the stress of being on some weird diet.

Goya the plant also made me feel better.

Once I stopped looking for an instant cure, it was a steady uphill journey of progress.
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