Me too. If not Candida, dysbiosis. https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikiped...wiki/Dysbiosis

Coconut oil is very good for controlling Candida et. al. That's the best you can do is control it. Most try to kill it, but that is not reasonable. Candida is a normal part of everyone's system. What you want is for it to remain in its bud state (yeast) which is managed by keeping the digestive system on the acid side, the lower pH 7 range. In an alkaline situation, it morphs from the bud state to the fungus state. So control is the key. Destroy is not really reasonable. Bye the way, candida is bimorphous. It can change back to bud from fungus in the right environment. Good luck with this.

The reason it is so hard to get rid of fungi, is because one single surviving cell will propagate very rapidly.

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so you are saying that we want to be on the acid side of the scale? dont we want to be more alkaline? disease is said to like acidic bodies i thought?

now does vco work on dysbiosis?

as i stated before i started cipro with no symptoms and fell ill to severe fast. i never was severe before. or anything like pain if any area.

i did like the vco. it was gross but it was like my body would crave it and ask for it. i was in suicidal pain state so anything was hard to judge.

if i get worse now that i am off sulfa trim then i can gage the infection theory again.

so you dont believe abx will help us?

should we try mms then if we believe that it is an infection? fuk has anybody tried it and it cured them of prostatitis? where are the cured prostatitis people? are there any?

where can we buy mms from a good source? i will try and do it.

William, the guy who started the website on prostate massage which I had linked to previously, has apparently cured his. He states he used silver water for infection, along with massage therapy, and proper diet.

I tried MMS for a little while, without much for results, but I think without the massage, not much will work properly.
I got my MMS at a place called keavey's corner (could be korner).

It's a web site, you should be able to google it and find it.

Yes, coconut oil has lauric acid that is very good against bad pathogens.

Probiotics also produce acid as a byproduct, called lactic acid, which is what helps to keep the bad pathogens under control. Your stomach produces hydrochloric acid as a first line of defense against bad pathogens. And on and on. Really bad pathogens, like cancer, also produce acid as a byproduct of fermentation. It does not mean that cancer is acid. The body has its own defense against too much acid or too much alkaline. So don't bother trying to do it yourself. The body does it better. Here is a thread that speaks to the acid alkaline myth. https://www.natmedtalk.com/nutrition/...your-body.html

Here is another important acid in the fight against Candida and other microbes.
https://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...7/ai_83582819/

Has anyone been to this site I'm thinking of getting some of this stuff


https://www.candidasupport.org/about_company.html

Way too expensive for what they do.

Check out this site, and find the products at your favorite online inexpensive vendor. https://www.sheilashea.com/candida.html

And this may be of great help as well. https://www.coconutdiet.com/candida.htm

And this https://www.modernherbalist.com/products/sf722.html You can find the product cheaply at iHerb.com

william said he had germs to i dont think he says what the germ was. i hear that silver water loses effect by the time it gets to the lower reagan.

i do believe him. he does promote stuff that he may get paid on. i believe the theory that massage can get some back to normal. but if we have a bacteria i wonder if it will solve our problems.

do you guys think this can be passed back and forth from sex partners? the ghost bacteria?

have you guys tried yoga,
I did heated yoga when i was goin through that junk
it was kind of soothing and helped with will power to get better.
the prostate gets very little blood circulation so you might want to get that as good as you can.
yoga or some other kind of exercise can help with that

in my experience the hardest thing about prostatitis was the depression, so make sure to take care of yourselves.
kale seems to help to, oh yea
if you juice
start adding turmeric to your recipe, it helps the circulation and is a natural anti-inflammatory.
there are some promising studies on bioflavinoids (not sure i spelled that right) so its worth a try.
I wasted a lot of money on crappy prostate medication/vitamins. I learned to heal myself eventually. Getting in the best shape of my life helped alot.

hey thats great! thanks for the helpful reply! so you have fought the fight and won. i have some questions for you if you dont mind...

did you have ever a positive test for bacteria?
how long did it take to win the battle?
did you have bad symtoms?
did you ever have prostate secreations when you urinate?
do you think it may have been yeast?
was it muscular?

no positive test for bacteria, but i bet there would have been if they did all the test they could, i was given three or four different antibiotics, which i was afraid permanently messed up my joints but with alot of work i got my youth back.

my symptoms were extremily terribly bad, i contemplated suicide daily, some days i would alternate between bath and bed.
i tried to get rid of my girlfriend because it was hard having someone be worried about you all the time... i mean its hard enough being in terrible pain right (in your junk area!)

i am not exactly sure what a prostate secretions are.

maybe yeast but i dont think so
i think that my overall health was not where it should have been, some kind of bacteria probably took advantage of that. the antibiotics probably weakened my immune system (i looked very pale and sickly) allowing the bacteria to irritate my prostate even more.

i dont know if it was muscular but i did work hard to strengthen those muscles in that area just in case.

regarding how long it took...
over a year (maybe longer) of feeling really crappy. and spending way to much money on supplements. after that i went on a trip to japan and met some people that changed my perspective on health in general. from there it was a steady uphill climb for about 6 months.

my god, i dont know what to say. i am pretty choked up. you just discribed what i have and am going through to a T. everything you said has happened to me except japan is not in my near future.

prostate secreations is what they say is when an over load of white blood cells are in pus like liquid coming from your prosate down your penis. that i have because my body believes that i am fighting an infection.

what was your main inproving things? exercise? time? diet? anything taken? or all of the above?

i have waited a long time to find a mimic symptommatic person. the hardest thing was the feeling that my soul was stolen. the pain in the penis and testicals was very bad. peeing all the time was terrible i hate the cold genitals and the high riding sore balls and aching ass. i am better from november but it has been hell. i lost all the weight i could and am not skin and bones. i am trying a mild form of mms till i get a shipment. did it have any results? did anything you can pin point work or is it still a mystery that gets no answers?

thanks for helping me and for giving us cursed people some hope for that i say much love!

ok dude,
its just so trippy to think about everything i did
well in japan i learned something about the nature of illness
i learned alot from the head of a health corporation in shizuoka
he took me on a trip to mount fuji and just talked you know like yoda or somthing
haha
it wasnt just him though, everyone on my travels.
then something special.
ill have to explain the physical part in another post, after i go get a cup of tea.

but this is equally as important

the soul thing you were saying, the feeling like you are losing your soul. i know the solution. although it might be something you have to figure out for yourself, i will explain my train of thought.

for about a year i thought about who i used to be, so funny happy energetic and very free. it was depressing, my goal was to go back to the way i was, and to be the person i was.
this was a mistake. a silly neurotic self destructive whiny way to think

in order to move forward you have accept the circumstances.
so i accepted that i was different now.
I told my girlfriend this and she misinterpreted it as me giving up.
that was not the case. it liberated me, i no longer felt bad about feeling bad.
i accepted that i am not the same person anymore.
god its hard to explain but some version of this happened. ill be happy to explain it again after thinking about it.