Invive Silver

[mcstiggens]

Hi All,

I was doing some research into the best kind of silver to buy. There are many out there but one that I purchased that seems the most interesting is called "Invive Silver" It's very strong at up to 10,000 ppm or more I think. It's a very dense, opaque brown color unlike most clear silvers out there.
Has anyone else tried this and whats your take on it?
Their website is pretty annoying as far as how its designed and it's a bitch to navigate but there is a BUNCH of info on the product, the benefits, the differences and so on. They make a good case that this type of silver is the best and original product that was used by doctors 100 years ago or something.
I did a search on this forum and turned up nothing. I would like to know what you folks know or think of this product.

Thanks,
Mcstiggs

 

[just me]

I have always been told, that if its not a clear color or if it has a brown tint to it, then dont consume it, its bad for you.... Someone correct me if I am wrong, but wasnt the silver that was used a hundred years ago the silver that caused everyone to turn gray.... I think I will stick with the silver gen!!!

 

[mcstiggens]

Yes, I've heard about the dangers of certain silvers but I have not heard "if it's not clear don't consume it".
This is why I started this thread. I want to get to the answers once and for all. I have yet to find any negative comments on Invive silver.
Every product manufacturer states all kinds of "evidence" as to why their product is the real deal.
Here's what Invive says about their silver vs. others on the market.
They claim its a true 'nano particle colloidal silver' and not the 'ionic' silver which is supposedly useless and potentialy harmful (I think I got that right).
Anyway, follow the links bellow and see what you think.

Do not believe the lines of EVERY colloidal silver promoter
The Truth About Silver
Silver is Allopathic and not Homeopathic

Mcstiggs

 

[jfh]

It sounds like NutraSilver which I do use and like. I put it in distilled water. It also turns a brownish color. Good for backpacking; so it doesn't have to be distilled.

NutraSilver - Skin Disease & Infection | Morgellons & Lyme Treatments

FAQ's | NutraSilver

According to their site:

Here are some important facts about NutraSilver:

1) Totally non-toxic
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2) Impossible to get argyria (turning blue)
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3) Effectively kills deadly pathogens
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4) Can be used directly in eyes, sinuses and ears
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5) Promotes a strong immune system

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[Arrowwind09]

Yep, nutrasilver is that color too and someone said it was 3,600 ppm. I use it once in a while. Morgellons folks use it quite a bit as they don't get equal results with clear colloidal silver. Far as I know none of them have turned gray.

 

[kind2creatures]

Silver Colloids: Colloidal Silver Product Reports

I've only used Mesosilver 20PPM, way back in 2005. Thought this chart may be of help. This silver didn't prevent or cure colds with daily use, as I had thought. Haven't used CS since, but was thinking about using it inhaled into the lungs if necessary in the future.

 

[Arrowwind09]

I have always been told, that if its not a clear color or if it has a brown tint to it, then dont consume it, its bad for you.... Someone correct me if I am wrong, but wasnt the silver that was used a hundred years ago the silver that caused everyone to turn gray.... I think I will stick with the silver gen!!!

I met someone who turned darkly blue gray from taking spoonfuls of liquid silver when she was a teenager. The family said it saved her life. She grew up to be mysteriously beautiful! and in her old age with snow white hair was stunning. went on to have several healthy children and lived into her 90's.

 

[kind2creatures]

One of the reasons I had chosen Mesosilver, did not cause argyria discoloration caused by silver protein products.

The Truth About Silver Protein and Mild Silver Protein (MSP) Products

 

[mcstiggens]

Hmmm.........I see.
Thanks kind2creatures for that link. The lab results and other info is very informative. I could see why you would chose the Meso silver.
Puzzling (or disappointing) that it did not work for you though.

Mcstiggs

 

[Arrowwind09]

Mcstiggins,

I have found this link in some of the lit you provide links to and have found it very interesting...one of the big issues with silver products is that most people are just guessing on how much and how often to take it to be effective. Here dosages are provided for a multitude of diseases.

Ag-Therapy: Doctor's Desk Reference this really has most excellent information on dosage!

My question to you is, it this info all based on a 500ppm dosage? Ah, yes, so it says in the document. Who put this document together?

Ha! since no one is responding and are off line right now I placed a call. I found out that a man named Tom O'brien did and his family has worked with silver solutions for many many years and has had record of physician usage from the first quarter of the 20th century, back when silver was used commonly.

 

[Arrowwind09]

Starting to Get Past The Hype

So I just placed a call to Russel at the www.nutrasilver.com company. I have talked with him several times over the past few years and he encouraged me to explore Nutrasilver. He says that Invive silver is more similar to his product than any other yet they are formulated quite differently. But Invive is 500 ppm so to take a comparable dosage you would have to take about 7 times the amount of Invive over Nutrasilver. He thinks Invive is a good product.

Soon the Nutrasilver site will be posting results on on its site under "Labs" regarding invitro studies with MRSA. He said he has a doctor waiting in the wings for this report to come out, to take it to John Hopkins or some big hospital for human studies with MRSA patients. It was a $30,000 dollar FDA approved study.

So as before I continue to recommend Nutrasilver, but Invive may be a good alternative if the disease is other than Morgellons or Lyme. I have heard really negative rants on silver proteins in the past and I just don't know what to think about it.

Did you know that Joni Mitchell has been suffering with morgellons disease for over 15 years? She has been on Nutrasilver now for 3 months and almost cured, according to Russell. https://www.digitaljournal.com/article/269296 Check the map out at the bottom of this page. And to think we have a problem with swine flu? Its just a distraction from truth.

Now www.herbalhealer.com sells a silver product that has an excellent rep, and it is also dark color, at 500ppm.

Some of the lessor silver products will work for some disease but if you are going to deal with major disease I would go for major silver products, not the 10 and 20 ppm.

With nutrasilver for strep throat, 5 drops in small amt of water, gargle, and strep gone in one minute.

 

[mcstiggens]

That is most interesting Arrow.
I looked at the Nutrasilver (just yesterday) and thought it seemed to be a better value. I think I'll try that out.
Yes, the Invive website has lots of info. Almost too much, and their site is just so busy and poorly laid out that its rather hard to navigate (for me):shock:.

Mcstiggs

 

[mcstiggens]

Oh yea, one more thing Arrow. Invive does sell a 5,000ppm and a 10,000 ppm just for the record. But I think theirs is still much costlier ounce for ounce than the Nutrasilver.

Stiggs

 

[Arrowwind09]

Please tell Russel when you call that you've been talking to Arrow

 

[Arrowwind09]

I found this on the Invive website:
International Pharmaceuticals Silver Protein Natural Antibiotic - Advanced Colloidal
BECAUSE:
Different strengths and indeed 5000 ppm strengths, have been used for the last 100+ years which has "proved" that
only higher strengths have worked more effectively since 1902 = for the last 100+ years.
And 5000 ppm strength is what was used in the British Encyclopaedia of Medical Practice and other Medical Journals.
The 6 litres (6,000 cc) of blood in everyone's body dilutes 1 teaspoon (5 cc) of any type of silver of any strength down by 1,200 times "less" strength. Weak silver solutions under 2,000 ppm are worthless in the body against disease. E.g. A 20 ppm is diluted down to less than 1/100 of 1 ppm by blood in the body, but promoters mislead the public by saying that 20 ppm kills bacteria in the petrie dish (in vitro) without telling you: It is "not" effective in vivo (in the body) because it is diluted down 1200 times to less than 1/100 of 1 ppm by your 6 litres of blood. Promoters will not put up the information that the 6 litres of blood in everyone's body dilutes 1 teaspoon of silver of any strength down by 1,200 times less strength. The correct solution is to have a 20 ppm solution in your bloodstream, and for that you need 4 teaspoons of 5000 ppm. This is a plain fact of Chemistry and cannot be denied. Click here to see point 8 for a complete explanation that you must use a 5000 ppm for disease.

 

[u&iraok]

I got some Nutrasilver and was shocked to see that it was brown. I had thought all silver products were clear. Why is it brown? Does that mean it has more silver in it?

The Nutrasilver website said not to use it topically for Morgellons. Is that only for Morgellons? Can you use it in the eyes like you can the clear silver?

 

[Arrowwind09]

Topical applications of nutrasilver seems to aggravate morgellons and makes the buggers go on the move. The disease needs to be treated systemically so no matter where they turn there is the medicine waiting to get them.

Nutrasilver is made with clustered water, that is about the only thing I know about its manufacture. It is very strong, 3,600 ppm and that accounts for its color.

 

[u&iraok]

I don't have Morgellons so I'm assuming it's only for the Morgellons that you don't use it topically. I think I'll hold off on using it in the eyes just in case it's too strong. Don't want to mess around with the eyes.

I find the stuff to be amazing. If I'm coming down with something and catch it before it develops into anything yet, the Nutrasilver just knocks it out.

 

[Arrowwind09]

I have heard from reputable sources that you can put one drop in each eye. But the stuff is quite concentrated. I bet you could put one drop in an eye cup of water and use half on each eye and get just as positive of an effect.

 

[pinballdoctor]

The strength of colloidal silver is not nearly as important as the size of the silver particles. The smaller the particles, the better, since penetration into tissue is increased.

NutraSilver, which is one of the silver products that I use, looks like rusty water. That I dislike. It also comes in a plastic container instead of tinted glass, which is again something I don't like.

It cannot be used directly in eyes. In fact, right on the bottle it states "do not apply directly to skin".

A good silver product should be between 10 and 25ppm in strength, clear, with a neutral pH so it can be used in eyes and ears without burning.

www.sovereignsilver.info

 

[Arrowwind09]

Visit this page for further info:

https://www.healthsalon.org/470/colloidal-silver-vs-nutrasilver-morgellons-mrsa-fungal-infection/

 

[pinballdoctor]

Visit this page for further info:

https://www.healthsalon.org/470/colloidal-silver-vs-nutrasilver-morgellons-mrsa-fungal-infection/

The following is quoted from the article above:

"With extreme use of antibiotics comes the fungal infections that these drugs cause. With the fungal infections comes cancer. Fungus can harbor in the body for many years before cancer finally results from its presence".

Most cancer IS fungus. That is why antifungals kill "cancer".

 

[pinballdoctor]

All True CS is dark yellow or brown because it has REAL SILVER IN IT AND THAT IS THE COLOR LIGHT REFLECTS. Clear CS has no silver particles in it; just silver ions. NS is perfectly safe to put directly into your eyes. Hundreds of people have done so including me and my 2 month old granddaughter.

The size of the silver particle is import and the smaller the better. NS particles are in the lower nano range; about 1 billionth of a centimeter.

If you go to https://www.nutrasilver.com/pages/fda-certified-laboratory-reports you will see FDA-certified lab reports demonstrating NS kills every pathogen tested. Recent lab reports NS kill MRSA at the rate of 99.9999% in 60 seconds.

If you want proof that NS works with Morgellons, visit: https://brandytwirl.multiply.com/photos/album/1/Morgellons_Pictures_Before_and_After_Treatment and you will see before and after pictures of a woman who was covered in them. In 3 weeks all her lesions dried up and fell off and her cognitive issues resolved. Just read her testimony above.

Kindly,

Danser

I very much dislike being told my information is not correct, when it is CORRECT

 

[Arrowwind09]

We have recently used undiluted NutraSilver in the eyes without any problem.

Pinball doctor,I do not see that all fungus is a cancer. I see cancer as a a deterioration of cellular function due to prolonged fungal invasion....I have not been convinced otherwise as of yet.

 

[pinballdoctor]

We have recently used undiluted NutraSilver in the eyes without any problem.

Pinball doctor,I do not see that all fungus is a cancer. I see cancer as a a deterioration of cellular function due to prolonged fungal invasion....I have not been convinced otherwise as of yet.

First, it says right on the bottle of nutrasilver NOT to use directly on the skin. That doesn't mean that it can't be, only that its not recommended, and I did not say ALL cancer is caused by fungus. After all, tobacco causes cancers, as do xrays, pesticides, fluoride, mercury, urainium, and several other "substances", none of which are more potent than vaccination ingredients, and that doesn't even take into consideration a lack of cancer protecting nutrients and vitamins.