Healthcare is a scam

naturegal

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I don't go to the doctor's much, but last time I was at the Kaiser facility I saw some signs of chiropractors, and other types of physical therapists there, maybe massage, rolfing....don't know, didn't pay much attention. Will be signing up for Medicare and be on it in 2018. Like you I don't visit the doctor much and hopefully it'll stay that way, but who knows.
I try not to go to doctors, but there are times I know I need to. But I turn down a lot of "pills" they want to give me, most all. Instead, I try to find out if they can refer me to other specialists at least. Hopefully someone that can sit and talk with me long enough to know what is truly going on. The others just herd you in, "try" to shove a 'script in your hand, etc.

Maybe when I have Medicare in December, I will have more choice over who I see, but so far, I haven't found hope in the Medicare manual they've sent me:(
 

jfh

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I try not to go to doctors, but there are times I know I need to. But I turn down a lot of "pills" they want to give me, most all. Instead, I try to find out if they can refer me to other specialists at least. Hopefully someone that can sit and talk with me long enough to know what is truly going on. The others just herd you in, "try" to shove a 'script in your hand, etc.

Maybe when I have Medicare in December, I will have more choice over who I see, but so far, I haven't found hope in the Medicare manual they've sent me:(
I've been on Medicare for 4 years. I don't go to doctors very much either. Maybe once every 2 years. I rarely see my General Practitioner, but I do see my cardiologist. Now, he really is a drug dealer. I've talked him down to 2 pills. An ACE inhibitor and a calcium channel blocker. I tried to get rid of them, but I guess that will not happen. Anyway, you will have to pay 20% of med expenses. I also pay $20/month for Medicare Plan D (prescription meds). Those things are expensive without that. But you will be able to visit a doctor or specialist of your choice. And there are annual services (checkups) that you may appreciate for free.
 

Ron Brown

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Hillary Clinton and Obama were owned by the medical mafia. They were pushing for national health care so the medical mafia could make even more money by destroying the health of this country. More people die as a direct or indirect result of medical care than any other reason.
 

DavyKOTWF

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Most things in this country have come to be a scam. DrugCare is certainly one of the latest.

If we could just do a big reset, and do away with ALL types of insurance, we'd be better off.

I recently got off BP meds...the nurse practitioner who prescribed some for me, was aghast when I told her the meds gave me 5 different side effects. She acted like she'd never heard of side effects and she'd been gutshot; possible dizziness is the only side effect of them. She tried to tell me I they were psychosomatic and all in my head, because I'd been reading (educating myself) on the internet.

She and 99% of all medical dr's have been formerly MIS-educated.
 

d0ug

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When the medical system replaced the word cure for manage and control is when the real medical system died and replaced with drug pushers
 

Ron Brown

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Socialised medicine is the worst that could happen. First the people who take care of their health have to pay from the people who don’t. So what is beneficial about being healthy when it cost you the same as people who destroy their body knowing it will not cost them anything and they can get off work.
Just think how the school system would be if everyone got the same mark no matter how hard they study? Or the same wages no matter how hard you work?
When it comes to health everyone thinks that’s different but it is not.
If it comes out of your wallet you might think differently. People are saying I don’t want vitamins or minerals because I have to buy them but the drugs are covered by the insurance.
Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton , and Obama should all be jailed for crimes against humanity and for working as tools of the drug and medical mafia to enslave this nation to that medical mafia.
 

DavyKOTWF

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Most of the illness that kill people is self inflicted Heart disease, cancer, type two diabetes, and dementia these are not caused by bacteria, virus, they are cause by poor health practices.
I've read that "doctors/drugs/hospitals" are now the #3 cause of death in the USA. I can believe it.
 

Ron Brown

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Nutriceuticals and herbal medicine are far superior to pharmaceuticals. The US government just won't pass a bill to change current "healthcare" to something better, like orthomolecular medicine.
EVER WONDER WHY THE GOVERNMENT NEVER STEPS ON BIG PHARMA'S TOES TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT? BIG PHARMA HAS SO MUCH MONEY AND POWER THAT ANY POLITICIAN THAT DARES TO CHALLENGE THEM WILL BE WIPED FROM THE MAP AS A POLITICIAN AND RUINED FOREVER. BERNIE SANDERS SPOKE AGAINST THEM IN HIS CAMPAIGN AND YOU SAW WHAT THE CLINTON HAG AND HER TROOP OF BIG PHARMA STOOGES DID TO HIM. NOTHING SHORT OF A REVOLT BY THE CITIZENS OF THIS COUNTRY CAN DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT, BUT THE SHEEP ARE TO DOCILE TO DO IT. BAAA BAAA GOES THE LITTLE SHEEP AS THEY MARCH INTO THE DOCTORS OFFICE.
 

uniden

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I'm on medication. There is only one reason why I do not go on a raw food diet whilst on medication: because they are both contraindicated to each other. And if they are both contraindicated to each other, I can choose only one of them. Since the medication is being forced upon me, I "choose" the medication.
 

uniden

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I can already see what's going to happen. The doctor is going to just prescribe more medication to make it so that I do not have anxiety about swallowing (hence dysphagia). And then I am going to be in the same boat I was in from 2010 to 2014. I started seeing my current psychiatrist in November of 2015. He's just going to prescribe an anti-anxiety medication (maybe a benzo), and I'm just going to get more and more unhealthy.
 

jaminhealth

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I'm on medication. There is only one reason why I do not go on a raw food diet whilst on medication: because they are both contraindicated to each other. And if they are both contraindicated to each other, I can choose only one of them. Since the medication is being forced upon me, I "choose" the medication.
Forced??? You choose to take what MD's prescribe.

Personally, regardless I have no interest in raw food diet.
 

d0ug

New member
10 plus years?? and the medical system did not help time to change your way of thinking and get a different doctor. If I paid someone that long it would be time to look into other forms of treatment because that one doesn't work
 

uniden

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Well, the only doctor I have been paying is the one I've been seeing since November of 2015. I cannot go to an alternative medical practitioner because it's not covered by insurance. The medication helps me manage my illness and keep it under control; but it does not cure it. I have a chemical imbalance. At least I think I do. I was seeing an alternative medical practitioner back in 2010; but I have not gone to him since then. Back then I was getting neurotransmitter testing done via NeuroScience Inc. We were seeing results with the treatment plan he offered to us. My dopamine levels had gone down (before it was off the charts). Also, my serotonin levels were much higher (too high, actually). But he had said that if we continued, the serotonin would fall back down into the normal range. My biggest problem was that I was not cooperative even with him. I kept insisting that I can get all the nutrients that I need from food alone. I also insisted that I know more than him about what my body needs. He then told me about Confucius ("A doctor who treats himself has a fool for a patient."). I would not listen, though. I kept insisting that I need to fast. The treatments that he offers are nutraceuticals, herbal formulations, and acupuncture. He is the best practitioner I have gone to in my whole life. I want to start seeing him again, but I'm afraid I do not have enough money to pay for his treatment. He's not a naturopathic physician. He is a traditional Chinese medicine practitioner. I think he was also an endocrinologist. I think the reason why I stopped seeing him was because I kept insisting I knew what was best for myself. I just wanted to fast at the time.

I think another big problem is that my Dad doesn't really believe in alternative medicine. His way of thinking is that conventional medicine is the way to go. He thinks eating a raw food diet is crazy. I cannot believe how closed-minded he is.
 

d0ug

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Do you see the words you are using manage, control, treat. There is one word missing cure. do your own home work look up mineral deficiencies symptoms. be your own doctor for a change they are not helping you.
 

uniden

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I'm just going to have to manage and control the illness, rather than cure it. Then I will get a job and start earning income. Then I will spend that money on alternative medicine to cure myself. Then I will not need medication anymore.
 

uniden

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I want to be my own physician. I cannot because I live with my parents. And the medication that I am currently taking gives me dysphagia. I am in a real mess right now.
 
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