Healthcare is a scam

d0ug

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I see the doctor for diagnosis or his opinion. Then I go home and cure my problem. I have good friends who are doctors and sometimes they ask me for my opinion. I will not get into their medical mouse trap.
 

zezeitgeist

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I agree healthcare is a scam, but i contest your facts.
it is not the lazy poor demanding the hard workers pay for their medical bills. the incredibly wealthy have more than enough money to share and its they that have made living very expensive. People do get sick and injured and the medicare system (which exists anyway without socialism) lets many people die. I have met many good people who worked hard when they could, god only knows what have happened to them. i have also seen and met adults who were clearly abused/neglected as children who have mental illness who live/die on the streets. And there are many people that cannot afford vitamins.
why this current healthcare SCAM system only gives out drugs and not vitamins for nutrition to prevent illness is a good point of reference.[/QUOTE]

Socialised medicine is the worst that could happen. First the people who take care of their health have to pay from the people who don’t. So what is beneficial about being healthy when it cost you the same as people who destroy their body knowing it will not cost them anything and they can get off work.
Just think how the school system would be if everyone got the same mark no matter how hard they study? Or the same wages no matter how hard you work?
When it comes to health everyone thinks that’s different but it is not.
If it comes out of your wallet you might think differently. People are saying I don’t want vitamins or minerals because I have to buy them but the drugs are covered by the insurance.
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jaminhealth

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I am on Medicare and take the straight medicare which costs me out of social security about $144/mo and it goes up every year in cost.....BUT I do not buy into a s upplemental plan that can cost $200-$300+ per month and many many do.

Instead I spend my money on supplements for keep me in better health. Works for this almost 82 yr old.
 

d0ug

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I live in a third world country our hospitals are free. You do not pay for medicare. There is clinics which charge and have newer equipment. Doctors make house calls but does it on a motorcycle as they don't make the money of American doctors. Most house calls I give the doctor some money because he would not ask for it. I spoke to a person a few days ago who had cataract surgery free. I am a retired Canadian and waited in line for hours in the emergency room but here lucky if you wait 30 minutes. I think the American have been fooled to think this is the only system.
 

jaminhealth

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Well, I'm sure there are plenty of cataracts in the D.R. Are you saying that all the people who have very little get all free surgery? And those with some money pay some fees?

Doctors don't work for free do they? What kind of medical schools do they learn? Free schools too.

A friend went to D.R. about 20+ yrs ago for Stem Cells and she paid $25K down there and is doing pretty good considering. My sister died a few yrs ago waiting for U.S. stem cells. This was for MS.

We all do what we can and U.S. was founded and developed the way it has been and we are living where we were born usually....I don't think it's a scam but it's supporting pharma and insurance companies. and doctors and medical schools.

How many people in the D.R. There are over 300million in the U.S.
 
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Ruth

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I am beginning to see that healthcare has become a scam. When I go to my dr. he mostly refers me to about 5 other doctors. I have a list of things I'm supposed to see a doctor for on MyChart and I have 12 things on the list. It overwhelmed me at first to see all of that but I'm just taking care of what I feel is most important. If I were to do all of what he says I would be at drs all the time!

Yes, they seem to just want to push other doctors and products! It's another Big Business!
 
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d0ug

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Healthcare is forcing people to use a system that cannot cure heart burn and want do deal with your cancer. A system where the healthy have to pay for the sick the people who do not want to look after their own health. Bring back the real healers and get rid of drug pushers.
 

jaminhealth

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I am beginning to see that healthcare has become a scam. When I go to my dr. he mostly refers me to about 5 other doctors. I have a list of things I'm supposed to see a doctor for on MyChart and I have 12 things on the list. It overwhelmed me at first to see all of that but I'm just taking care of what I feel is most important. If I were to do all of what he says I would be at drs all the time!

Yes, they seem to just want to push other doctors and products! It's another Big Business!
Don't you "get this"...we are on a Natural Medicine forum. I do my own so called doctoring and have been since my early 50's and now in early 80's....
 

Ruth

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Don't you "get this"...we are on a Natural Medicine forum. I do my own so called doctoring and have been since my early 50's and now in early 80's....
I don't "get" what you are referring to? Am I not allowed to say I went to a doctor? If I've done something wrong here please let the mods take care of it! And yes I am aware this is called Natural Medicine Talk...I'm not some ignoramous!
 

Ruth

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Healthcare is forcing people to use a system that cannot cure heart burn and want do deal with your cancer. A system where the healthy have to pay for the sick the people who do not want to look after their own health. Bring back the real healers and get rid of drug pushers.
How do the healthy pay for the sick people? I am one of the sick people and I do look after my own health.
 

d0ug

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By the turn healthy paying for the sick is insurance. everyone pays but only the sick use all the money. No one is upset about paying for an emergency or accident. With insurance the average person has no idea just how high medical cost have gone because they are not paying so the system can charge more and the vicious circle starts. If someone else was not paying the bills people would look after themselves more and do reaserch outside of the box of medicine.
 


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