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Ok so the other day I switched to green tea and I was doing ok. Of course the next day I went back to coffee, but only ONE cup this time around. If I feel like having any more, I'll go to the green tea.

Hmm, maybe I *can* do this
Of course you can But then of course, you'll want your green tea every morning.. LOL Always something. Of course green tea with lemon doesn't have the sugar and is better for you than coffee is.. (Well so I have been told anyway, I might have just been sold a bill of goods lol)

If you feel like you have to have coffee, you can try getting smaller cups to cut down as well.

Also, to cut down on sugar in the coffee, if you are drinking it for breakfast or as a just after breakfast booster, then you can try to mix the coffee with sweet marmalade on toast. Actually Marmalade (made with orange zest) actually goes pretty good with coffee in the morning, no cream or sweetener needed, just take a bite of the toast, and wash it down with a slurp of coffee.. Swallow and Repeat
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Old 10-19-2012, 04:13 AM
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Something I must be concerned about - fluoride - it's always something. In green tea. And it freaks me out a little. I want to be free of it. I filter it out of my drinking water and my toothpaste is fluoride free. Worry about it replacing my iodine and all that.

Have you tried some of the herbal teas? I like to mix them up - lately chamomile and milk thistle is my favorite.
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And I mean a lot of it. I really want to cut sugar out of my diet altogether because I know that is one of the reasons why I feel the way I do, day in and day out, but when I have my 3 cups of coffee, I load it with sugar. It's a vicious cycle for sure. Ingest coffee to wake up but you just end up needing more.

My wife suggested using honey instead, but I am reluctant because of the taste (I use a lot of non-dairy creamer too and can't imagine mixing the two).

Also I read here that you have to be careful what type of honey you buy. Can anyone provide more info on that? I will try to buy honey locally whenever I can as I do use it in my smoothies.

what about sugar alternatives?

How do you make your coffee? I suppose I could just try liking black coffee, but I want to hear more about what you all use for sugar alternatives and even creamers

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I found a glass percolator to use now due to the nasty I found in the tank of my auto drip - yech. I cleaned regularly. Not sure what all the black was in the water only reservoir, it was bad. If it is there and it is mold - where else in the maker is it hiding? Seems risky.

Just finished Caffe Sanora brand - Signature Roast. Claims "more antioxidants than green tea." Not fare trade, tho :*( I use regular organic half/half and organic stevia (no maltodextrin). One/two cups in the morning and that's it.

I buy free trade organic shade grown. The Caffe Sanora was a gift. I do like it, tho.

ETA: Found a MIMICCREME at the store. Made with Almond & Cashew. French Vanilla is what I purchased. The ingredients seem ok, but the natural flavors...I just don't like. On a review page I read that natural flavors is - MSG. Being a migraine sufferer, I don't believe I will risk it. It will go into the donate bag for the food bank.
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Something I must be concerned about - fluoride - it's always something. In green tea.

OK... I think you meant that the fluoride is in the water you make the tea with, not actually in the tea itself

Anyway, you can always get distilled water, or spring water. Of course the cheaper way to go is to use those BRITA filters for your drinking water..

Hmm, there is an interesting question. I do not happen to know offhand if those BRITA filters happen to work on fluoride. I would guess they do, but I don't know.. Seems like I have a new batch of research to do
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OK... I think you meant that the fluoride is in the water you make the tea with, not actually in the tea itself
Not quite so. Tea has an affinity with several components of the soil while it is growing.

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Tea plants accumulate fluoride in their leaves. In general, the oldest tea leaves contain the most fluoride (9). Most high quality teas are made from the bud or the first two to four leaves�the youngest leaves on the plant. Brick tea, a lower quality tea, is made from the oldest tea leaves and is often very high in fluoride. Symptoms of fluoride excess (i.e., dental and skeletal fluorosis) have been observed in Tibetan children and adults who consume large amounts of brick tea (10, 11). Unlike brick tea, fluoride levels in green, oolong, and black teas are generally comparable to those recommended for the prevention of dental caries (cavities). Thus, daily consumption of up to one liter of green, oolong, or black tea would be unlikely to result in fluoride intakes higher than those recommended for dental health (12, 13). The fluoride content of white tea is likely to be less than other teas, since white teas are made from the buds and youngest leaves of the tea plant. The fluoride contents of 17 brands of green, oolong, and black teas are presented in the table below (12). These values do not include the fluoride content of the water used to make the tea.
https://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocente...ea/#components
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OK... I think you meant that the fluoride is in the water you make the tea with, not actually in the tea itself

Anyway, you can always get distilled water, or spring water. Of course the cheaper way to go is to use those BRITA filters for your drinking water..

Hmm, there is an interesting question. I do not happen to know offhand if those BRITA filters happen to work on fluoride. I would guess they do, but I don't know.. Seems like I have a new batch of research to do

I use a different filter (Seychelles) before I pour that into the Brita. I had the water tested for several pollutants and toxins, at a private lab. I will have to find those results. The water is safe! In between filter purchases I buy distilled. Just hate those bottles in the environment :*(

This site has info on fluoride in tea: https://blog.teavana.com/post/2008/07...-Fluoride.aspx I love their teas, but a bit $$$.
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Old 10-19-2012, 07:58 AM
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As others suggested already I would switch to tea. When I first came to this board, many people suggested I switch from coffee to tea and it was one of the best things that happened to me. I felt like I had more energy through the day instead of jolt of caffeine and then a crash, I had less anxiety, slept better and loss weight. When I drank coffee every morning it was just black coffee, no sugar and nothing else added to it.

The problem I think with many people switching from coffee to tea is that the USA is a coffee country, so you can get a lot of good quality coffees at the grocery store. The teas that are at the grocery stores here are just terrible and I think if I tried switching with those teas I would still be drinking coffee.

You have to shop really at an asian store or online. The only chain place that that I like their green teas are costco that sells ito en, which is a sencha and matcha green tea blend and the taso that are at some grocery stores are decent. But lose leaf is just drastically better tasting and for you.

If you are used to consuming so much caffeine, then maybe start with black tea or oolong. I personally like black tea cold and I drink it every now and then on the weekends, but my daily cup is green or oolong. oolong has more caffeine in it and when I'm tired it's the tea I actually go when I feel I need a boast.
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I do not happen to know offhand if those BRITA filters happen to work on fluoride.
No.

RO, distilled or an activated alumina filter are necessary to remove fluorine.
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Not quite so. Tea has an affinity with several components of the soil while it is growing.
Damnit....

Not a good way to start the day. But then, if you are worried about fluoride you really shouldn't. The levels of fluoride that the plants absorb are going to be less than the amounts of radiation they will be consuming soon if some scientists are correct. (FUKISHIMA)

As I mentioned before, always something... *sigh....
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RO, distilled or an activated alumina filter are necessary to remove fluorine.
Well... There ya have it.. Those BRITA filters aren't really good for much then.. They are "supposed" to cut down on levels of chlorine in the water as well.

However, I have never believed that they did.. The water did taste cleaner, but... I doubt it was removing chlorine either.
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For me, coffee is like a battery. Similar to a cell phone, when its battery is low and you charge it, whenever my own battery becomes low. I charge myself up with a mug of coffee. In the morning, coffee gives me a kick-off to start the day. I cannot imagine myself going to work without having a mug of coffee, I would fall off from the door of my house, I know, lol......
Still, I would say that I am not addicted to coffee and the reason is that I just take 3 mugs of coffee daily, one in the morning with my breakfast, second at around 6 pm while I take my supper and the third one at night, usually after dinner. Yes, but you can say that I am addicted to the morning coffee mug, lol......

That extra cup of coffee at night doesn't keep you awake? Just curious as that is an interesting time to be drinking the final cup of coffee... unless of course you don't sleep much

I tend to avoid anything with caffeine in it after 8PM because I know I want to be able to get a good night's sleep. I work 12 hours a day, so I need my sleep lol.
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Well... There ya have it.. Those BRITA filters aren't really good for much then.. They are "supposed" to cut down on levels of chlorine in the water as well.

However, I have never believed that they did.. The water did taste cleaner, but... I doubt it was removing chlorine either.

They do remove chlorine and some metals too. FAR better than nothing IMHO. Besides, better tasting water means we drink more of it.
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They do remove chlorine and some metals too. FAR better than nothing IMHO. Besides, better tasting water means we drink more of it.
You have a point there.. That's why I drink lots of green tea, it's supposed to help flush out toxins, and of course, you get more water intake as well

8 glasses a day is what we need right? Well, if the water tastes good then we can easily drink that or more. So what's the harm in adding lemon, lime, or tea to the water?

Now, if we make it some sort of soft drink, like pepsi or coca cola, which is basically sugar water, it isn't good!

But I don't see how Tea, or Lemon (the tea being without sugar/cream) can be a bad thing to have 8 glasses of. Coffee on the other hand, because of the caffeine content wouldn't be advisable to have.
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Caffeine isn't bad. Too much can be, but it depends.

Citrus is good for you. Consume at mealtime too.
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I am happy.

I am addicted.

I MUST HAVE MY COFFEE OR I REFUSE TO FUNCTION. Have a nice day
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Coffee is loaded with anti-oxidants and it promotes colon health.
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