Multiple Sclerosis - Aluminum toxicity?

Arrowwind09

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Multiple Sclerosis is caused by damage to the protective covering that surrounds nerve cells. This damage is caused by inflammation.

But Allen, what is it that causes the inflammation? Almost all disease has an inflammatory aspect to it.

And welcome to the forum!
 

Ted_Hutchinson

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Multiple Sclerosis is caused by damage to the protective covering that surrounds nerve cells. This damage is caused by inflammation.
Upright Doctor on Alzheimer's, Parkinson's and Multiple Sclerosis Getting to the Root Causes of Neurodegnerative Diseases outlines another theory linking MS with Alzheimer's.

Raised levels of inflammation are probably a reflection of poor anti inflammatory reserves. For the past 60yrs the association between low vitamin D status and MS incidence and prognosis has regularly appeared in the published research. Nothing will be done to correct vitamin D deficiency either in people with MS or indeed in the general public basically because there is a lot more money to be made treating the condition than preventing it. We all know human skin creates 10,000#20,000iu given full body sun exposure but health professionals will try to keep D3 supplementation levels below the effective amount (5000iu/daily) for as long as they are allowed to get away with it.
Vitamin D is anti inflammatory AND reduces the number of MMP9's that actually cause the damage to the mylene sheath. Low vitamin D status is also associated with the poor cognitive function that becomes a feature of the development of both MS and Alzheimer's.

Direst MS org has a list of recommended supplements here from which you can see Vitamin D, omega 3 and magnesium (all anti inflammatory) feature in effective amounts. Similar suggestions would also help those with Alzheimer's or wishing to prevent such a diagnosis.
 

Arrowwind09

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Those people I have known who have made progress with MS have used antibacterial herbs, as is found in Tibetian medicine, or other antibacterial products like MMS.

Many alternative doctors now think that MS is actually Lyme disease and several studies have been done that clearly indicates that. If I had MS I would treat as for Lyme as found in the thread called Cure Lyme on this forum
 

Ted_Hutchinson

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Those people I have known who have made progress with MS have used antibacterial herbs, as is found in Tibetian medicine, or other antibacterial products like MMS.
Vitamin D3 and Melatonin both have antibiotic actions. We should at the very least ensure we restore and maintain the basic levels of these natural antibiotics that human DNA evolved to function best with and if we want to obtain vitamin D naturally from sun exposure we first have to restore the natural level of omega 3 to protect the skin from UV damage. We also have to recognise that people with MS and AD generally have deposits of iron in the brain that is adding oxidative damage. both vitamin D and melatonin will help detoxify the brain, and it's not a bad idea for all women to be blood donors post menopause and men somewhat younger. (it's the iron that's released from blood following INFLAMMATION from UV damage that initiates the skin cancer process. Having sufficient melatonin/vitamin d/curcumin/resveratrol available will also help.
More suggestions from Healthy Fellow Natural Sunscreen Options
 

Arrowwind09

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I can only assume that Vitamin D and melatonin will fortify the system as it fortifies many systemic pathways but I have seen no evidence that they in and of themselves will cure MS. Do you have any such evidience?
 

Ted_Hutchinson

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I can only assume that Vitamin D and melatonin will fortify the system as it fortifies many systemic pathways but I have seen no evidence that they in and of themselves will cure MS. Do you have any such evidience?
I'm not convinced that MS is curable.

I think the remission that some CCSVI treatments have provided is probably temporary (though much to be welcomed by those fortunate few) as it's only addressing the symptom but not the cause of blocked veins. Stenting arteries is only a temporary measure for many, The approach Dr Davis uses at Track your Plaque is solving the problem that causes the blockages. Those with MS/AD caused by poor blood flow through brain (and consequent build up of iron) need to understand what is causing the poor blood flow (hence links to Uprightdoctor) and work on strategies to improve that scenario.

I think MS could be prevented and I think the progression of the condition may be slowed and I'm sure that most people with MS would have greater muscle strength, less chronic pain and better cognitive function when Vitamin D status is improved so that they have a stored reserve of D3.
Before I learn't about the late effects of polio I was attributing my symptoms to being potentially MS as many of the symptoms of MS apply equally to PPS, so I've been following the topic for many years. I don't think anyone who has had polio expects ever to be cured of the condition or cured of the late effects, I think the best we can hope for is to prevent further deterioration as best we can while doing our utmost to be as fit as our damaged bodies allow.
We know sufficient about the role of vitamin D for chronic pain not to suffer unnecessary pain.
We can all improve our pain threshold, in the same way we can improve the ability of our skin to tolerate UV exposure.
 

Arrowwind09

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Ted, you may be interested to take a good read of this article on Sara Vaughtners website. I brought links to these pdf files over here but cant remember where I put them.
http://www.owndoc.com/lyme/multiple-sclerosis-is-lyme-disease-anatomy-of-a-cover-up/

one of th topics covered on this page is as follows:
2004 (Switzerland): Chronic Lyme borreliosis at the root of Multiple sclerosis – is a cure with antibiotics attainable?
 

Ted_Hutchinson

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I'm as cautious of anyone promoting a single cause of MS as I would be of anyone promoting the idea of a single cause for AD.
That is not to say I'm doubting that Lyme disease may be implicated in MS in the same way it's reasonable to consider if Lyme Disease is also the cause of AD

But we should not rule out other possibilities

Virus and MS
and herpes may also be a candidate.
Alzheimer's Disease: A Pathogenetic Autoimmune Disorder Caused by Herpes Simplex

Traditionally it was the practice to SUN babies.
Mothers would lay their naked babies in the sunlight and make sure they had regular full body sun exposure while ensuring they didn't burn but just got a little pink.
It's about time we reintroduced this practice and made sure the natural immune function of the next generation was NATURALLY as robust as possible.
 

Arrowwind09

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Well you present a case for MS being caused by virus, where I suggest that Lyme is involved. It could be one or the other, it could be both, considering that almost 90 percent of the population carries herpes simplex, or the chicken pox virus or both.

Although there is much to be said about getting and keeping strong in the defense systems, I think that once the disease has hit and is manefesting symptoms, aside from protocols you mention on your blog, one must directly attack the pathogen. MMS or colloidal silver and enzymes is proving to be able to do it for many people.
 

u&iraok

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Ah, the GERM VS TERRAIN debate! Currently raging on in Myalgic Encephalomyelitis/Chronic Fatigue Syndrome and Multiple Sclerosis and autoimmune disease fields and forums everywhere.

Does the immune system dysfunction cause viruses like Herpes Symplex which are latent in most people to become active in MS, or does a virus or pathogen cause the immune system dysfunction?

This is the question most needing an answer. Personally, I'm in the terrain camp (can't get around that bad ole mercury and other toxins and vitamin deficiencies and they keep bandying about virus after virus with no answer--it should be easier to indentify a pathogen unless there's a cover-up, but still...) but I'll be glad to change camps if only they would find the answer!

Once you have these diseases there's usually no cure so prevention is key and so if you're healthy---focus on terrain, i.e., keeping your body healthy, which includes avoiding stress.
 


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