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lambyoung

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Hi Everyone,
This is my first day here on the forum. I came here because I am looking for ideas on treating stomach ulcers naturally (I don't have H pylori, and never have. The ulcer came from use of ibuprofen). I am currently weaning myself off of famotidine (Pepcid AC) because I am concerned about the problems that can come from long term use of acid reducers. I intend to be tapered off of the famotidine within a month. But, in the interim, I need to find some potent ways to deal with ulcers. Currently, I am taking aloe vera capsules. But, I don't think the dosage is enough to make a big difference (I take about 50 mg a day). I also take a good amount of probiotic complex. Also, I have read that fenugreek is good for ulcers. So, I have ordered fenugreek capsules and will start using those. I know there are other natural remedies that can help with ulcers, cabbage juice being one of the options. But, some of the remedies are not very appetizing. So, I'm trying to find options that won't be, literally, hard to swallow. :lol: Also, another factor that is challenging my eating habits at the moment is that I had dental implant surgery a few weeks ago, one on each side of my mouth. I won't have the crowns placed for about another 4 months. So this makes chewing a challenge and chewing raw, fresh vegetables, which I know is beneficial for ulcers, impossible. Any ideas would be welcome.

Aside from all of this, my interest in natural health came from an experience I had 4 years ago. I had a very serious reaction when I stopped taking the birth control pill. I began experiencing tachycardia and panic attacks from hell. I ended up in the hospital for 3 days, two weeks after I stopped the Pill, while the doctors tried to figure out why my heart was beating so fast. Ultimately, about 6 months after I stopped taking the Pill, I was able to find a doctor who could help me with my hormones. But, before I was able to get an accurate diagnosis and treatment for my condition, I was put on ativan (a benzodiazepine) and also citalopram (an SSRI). So, I have quite a bit of experience of being put on powerful drugs, needlessly. My experience with ativan (and citalopram) is, in itself, a long harrowing story that I won't go into, right now. Though, I'm happy to share it with anyone who is interested. But, the overall experience in the last 4 years has taught me that if it's possible to address health concerns without the use of pharmaceutical medications, then that should be done, without question. I am interested in treating all areas of my health as naturally as possible. I have a cholesterol issue that I am trying to deal with, as well, naturally. I use krill oil, plant sterol supplements, Vit. D., and other vitamins and supplements to address the cholesterol issue and to try to keep my hormones in balance.

I am glad to have found this site and look forward to learning a lot.

God Bless,
Nicole
 

ozzie

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Hello lambyoung welcome, Im new here myself and I'm really enjoying being part of this forum.
ozzie
 

lambyoung

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Hello and thank you for the welcome. I'm glad to be here and I'm looking forward to learning with you all. :)

Nicole
 

kind2creatures

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Also, another factor that is challenging my eating habits at the moment is that I had dental implant surgery a few weeks ago, one on each side of my mouth. I won't have the crowns placed for about another 4 months. So this makes chewing a challenge and chewing raw, fresh vegetables, which I know is beneficial for ulcers, impossible. Any ideas would be welcome.
If you own a juicer, it seems like it would be easy to make a healthy vegetable drink.
 

lambyoung

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I you own a juicer, it seems like it would be easy to make a healthy vegetable drink.
Thanks for that tip. I don't have a juicer. I do have a blender, though, and also a food processor. I could probably just throw some vegetables in the food processor to make them easier to chew. I've heard that cabbage is very good for ulcers. So, I might try finding some healthy recipes for cabbage. Does this forum have a recipe section?
 

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lambyoung

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Thanks liverock and kind2creatures. I will order some glutamine. Swanson is the company that I buy most of my vitamins from. So, this will be one more item on my order. :)
 

Arrowwind09

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Hi Lambyoung, and welcome to the forum

For cabbage to be effective for ulcers it must be juiced and raw.. and taken several times a day....its a very old remedy with lots of evidence of working for some people..... but yuck... I would find another way! ... although I do love cabbage and eat a lot of it.

The heart issues you had after stopping hormones may be related to iodine. Iodine and horomones I think have a connection. My doc says she does not want me to do bio-identical hormones unless I commit to keeping up on my iodine intake.

anyway,, I had similar symptoms to yours a number of years ago, although not so bad to make me go to the hospital, just enough to sit home and fret and worry... I was not on hormones at that time but having some pre-menapausal symptoms. The iodine got rid of the heart palpitations and anxiety... and I cannot really explain why.... guess I should look into that.

We have lots of iodine supplementation information here on the forum if you use the search feature... I use Lugol's iodine.
 

lambyoung

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Thanks for your thoughts, Arrow. I myself like eating cabbage. But, drinking cabbage juice is probably more than I can handle. I could eat raw cabbage with no problem, but, the juice ... no. :)

This link between iodine and hormones is totally new to me. I will ask my doctor about it. I wouldn't think that I could be deficient in iodine because I enjoy salt. But, for the most part, I only use sea salt in my home. And, my understanding is that sea salt has no iodine in it.

Were you having thyroid troubles, also? I would think that an iodine deficiency would cause a thyroid problem. Is there a blood test to check the level of iodine?

For myself, I am completely convinced that the reason I went basically haywire for several months after I stopped taking the birth control pill is because of the fact that the Pill makes the ovaries lazy while a person is taking it. So, when I stopped taking it, my body was left without the artificial hormones that the Pill provided and also not able to produce enough of its own hormones. For me, the biggest problem I had was low progesterone. It was one horrible experience, I was not able to work for a month and a half after I stopped the Pill, and was needlessly put on very strong pscyh medications that it took me about 2 years to wean myself off of. I am thankful that my cardiologist (I began seeing him soon after I stopped the Pill, after I was released from the 3-day hospital stay) was a very capable doctor who understood the connection between my tachycardia and my having been on the Pill. Also, a few months after going off of the Pill, I was able to find an excellent nurse practitioner who is very helpful in the area of hormones.

Thankfully, the tachycardia resolved completely within a year. It hasn't been a factor now for about 3 years. Now, the major issues are lingering after effects of residual withdrawal symptoms from the ativan and citalopram I was on. I am quite sure that those medications are responsible for my ulcer flare up. I am much recovered from many of the problems I had in tapering off of the psych meds. But, for people like me who are very sensitive to medication and also very sensitive to the cessation from medications, it can take a while to recover.

I am now concentrating on becoming as healthy as I can possibly be. And, for me, that means to avoid pharmaceuticals if at all possible.

I will definitely talk to my nurse practitioner about iodine when I see her next week. I appreciate this new information.

Nicole

P.S. I just found this video about iodine and it sounds reasonable and interesting. Of course, this comes from a website which sells it's own progesterone cream. So, I always feel a bit cautious when a product is being endorsed.
http://www.goodprogesteronecream.com/howtouseprogesterone.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2-VLP81oIU&feature=player_embedded#at=167
 
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fcunsrial

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Hi Try first DGL from Enzymatic Therapy. It is an extarct of licorice very effective in stimulating the production of mucosa and healing ulcers. Is chewable and economical and should get relief in weeks.
If you have an open ulcer, do not use enzymes, bitters or betaine hydrochloride.
FrankND
 

Arrowwind09

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I was trying to remember what my doc said about iodine...
Breast tissue requires a lot of iodine... some naturopathic folk think there is a link between breast cancer and iodine deficient states. Iodine applied topically can eliminate breast pain caused by hormonal swings.

Of course estrogens affect breast tissue... and there has been a reported link between increased breast cancer and estrogen supplemention, although not with the bio-identical estrogens... so that is why i think she wants be on iodine... to cover bases..

At that time when I was having similar symptoms to you I also found a cyst on my thyroid. I could feel it on the outside with my hand. I went to the same doc and she had me have an ultrasound of the thyroid which revealed 2 cysts, the one I felt and a more internal one. I went to a thyroid specialist and he confirmed that they were benign cysts, but might get bigger, and if they bothered me he could remove them.

This is when I found out about iodine. I wasn't taking hormones yet, that to be some years down the road. I started taking Lugols iodine in rather large dosages for a couple of months. My symptoms of anxiety and heart palpitaitons went away along with the cyst. I can no longer feel it like I could before.. It was so extreme that if I bent my neck back you could see it poking out. Its not there anymore. No, I haven't bothered to have another ultrasound.

Right at that time is about when my doc started to prescribe Lugols iodine to her patients. She was learning as I was. As time went by we shared Lugols stories.. She said she was aware of cases of breast cancer cured with lugols iodine alone... but I dont know the dosage or any other details. For some serious disease cases Lugols dosages can be very high... like 200 to 900 drops a day.... This certainly would require physician monitoring by a doc that understands iodine supplementation.

If you are not supplementing with lugols you should look into it. Some people use nascient iodine.. but seems more practitioners use Lugols.. seems the potassium iodide covers more theraputic ground than the nascient iodine. Most Americans are deficient...and all women in one study who had breast cancer were iodine deficient. Remember, hypothyroidism is at epidemic levels at our nation.

Also, I recommend a thyroid hormone level check at 4 to 6 weeks after starting as a very few people do not tolerate iodine supplementation well. It can also cause skin rash for a while in some and this is throught to be a bromide detox, not an allergic reaction.
 

Arrowwind09

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this quote from that progesterone site says it all and it corresponds with what the leading iodine expert docs say:

Iodine deficiency is very common in America. Iodine deficiency is even worse in Western Europe and especially in the UK. By some estimates, iodine deficiency may exist in above 95% of the American population. Severe iodine deficiency results in goiter (an enlargement of the thyroid gland). Iodine exists in seawater. Because the Great Lakes Region was made be a large glacier scraping out the Great Lakes, the soil in that region is devoid of iodine. At the turn of the century, there was a large population in the Great Lakes region that had goiters because of the iodine deficiency. Iodized salt was implemented and decreased goiters in the Great Lakes region. However, the amount of iodine in the salt is just enough to stave off goiters. The amount of iodine is not enough. In addition, we are all poisoned by fluoride and bromine. The fluoride and bromine poisons the thyroid hormone and displaces the iodine with fluoride and bromine rendering the thyroid hormone useless.
The thyroid hormone appears to be normal on the thyroid test. But since iodine in the thyroid hormone is replaced by bromine and fluoride, the thyroid hormone does NOT work. Taking 10-50 mg of iodine (I2) and iodide (I-) is able to push out the bromine and fluoride restoring normal function of the thyroid gland.

Iodine deficiency seems to make the Estrogen Dominance Worse. I do not understand why this is so, yet. Taking iodine seems to make uterine fibroids disappear better, and reduce endometriosis pain. Why? I do not know, yet.
 

lambyoung

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Arrow,
Thanks, so much, for this information on iodine and for sharing your own experience. I am going into see my NP tomorrow for my yearly exam. I will definitely talk to her about the iodine. Do you ingest the iodine or use it topically?

Frank, thank you for the tip on the DGL licorice. Do you know if taking a capsule is as effective as the chewable tablet. I really don't like the taste of licorice. So, a capsule, if it's just as effective, would be better to me.

I also just started taking fenugreek seed capsules. I'm hoping that will be helpful.

Thanks for all of the helpful information.

Nicole :D
 

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