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Hi Iggy,

Just wondering how your hypertension program was going. Is it still working?
Have you refined it any? Can you share some details.

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If your blood pressure is near the "target area", you may need to just thin out your blood a little. Garlic, hawthorne and cayenne are great for this.
Once the blood is thinner, less force is needed to circulate it. That is a good thing.
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Hi Iggy,

Just wondering how your hypertension program was going. Is it still working?
Have you refined it any? Can you share some details.

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It's still erratic. Usually good but frequently it'll be around 140. Stress may be the culprit.


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If your blood pressure is near the "target area", you may need to just thin out your blood a little. Garlic, hawthorne and cayenne are great for this.
Once the blood is thinner, less force is needed to circulate it. That is a good thing.
I was at the VA a couple of days ago and they drew a blood sample and commented, "Are you a heavy bleeder?" I looked down and the puncture was all bloody. A few minutes later, another technician injected a dye for an xray and asked, "Are you on a blood thinner?"

I'm not on any thinner, not ever aspirin. I don't know why my blood would be thin unless it the Vit C, Vit E, and fish oil.
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How about the Jarrow MK-7. Perhaps this has something to do with the thinner blood. Maybe you should get a PT/INR.
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Also Ginko Biloba. Your BP needs to be at a 3:2 ratio, that is important
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A lot of great information on reducing hypertension. I don't have it but my mom does. She has tried the garlic but with vinegar and honey. We were not sure if it helped because she was also taking BP medication at the same time. She is currently not taking the garlic mixture. Can you suggest other better tasting herbs than garlic?
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A lot of great information on reducing hypertension. I don't have it but my mom does. She has tried the garlic but with vinegar and honey. We were not sure if it helped because she was also taking BP medication at the same time. She is currently not taking the garlic mixture. Can you suggest other better tasting herbs than garlic?
When talking about high blood pressure just what should it be? I recall reading somewhere that people who had higher PB pressure also had slightly sharper mentally abilities. I know the current standard is 120 over 80 and this is what everyone is shooting for. But just how high is too high? I seem to recall at one time your high side was considered normal, if it was approximately 100 plus your age. This appears to have been discarded and we now have one set of standards that is suppose to fit all. Was this done by being based on good science or was it done similar to the reductions in cholesterol levels as a means to increase the sale of PB pills?

Sometime back when my family witch doctor determined my PB was too high. He prescribed 80mg Diovan HCT this appeared to be working, but not fast enough for him, so he increased the dosage to 160mg. This worked. At this point he was content that I should remain at this dosage forever.

However I don�t like the word forever and I don�t like the idea of taking any more medicine then is absolutely required. So I got a PB monitor and started experimenting with smaller doses. Found that once I got to reasonable levels I could maintain them by going back to the 80mg dose once every other day! Also found that moderate exercise is a good way to reduce PB.

As a side note after one checkup visit for a prescription refill he inadvertently gave me Diovan without the HCT. The Diovan is the super duper drug that that is supposedly doing all the work and the HCT, a diuretic, it is added as a just a helper. Of course without this helper my PB slowly started to rise. As I understand it in the past diuretics were the main treatment for high PB. This raises the interesting question which part of Diovan HCT is actually doing the majority work and what part is the helper and which one has the major effect on its cost?

Just checked my pressure, 146 over 76, which is a little high, so I guess I should go take a pill.
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Hi healthyfreak,

How's your mom's sleep habits/patterns?

Check out a related thread on the role of sleep in hypertension:

/hypertension/2149-real-cause-hypertension.html

And some links about sleep:

/mental-health/2207-our-need-sleep.html

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Garlic for hypertension can be taken in capsule form. It is an overall builder of the immune system and will also keep infections away. We eat our garlic raw almost daily. I save the brine from my favorite olives and fill the jar with peeled whole cloves and let them sit for about 2 months before eating. We eat 3 or 4 a day and they are not hot any longer like raw garlic and you will not walk around smelling like you just crawled out of a garlic vat. You can also buy garlic stuffed olives in the grocery store. Thats the brine I ususaly use.
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Garlic for hypertension can be taken in capsule form. It is an overall builder of the immune system and will also keep infections away. We eat our garlic raw almost daily. I save the brine from my favorite olives and fill the jar with peeled whole cloves and let them sit for about 2 months before eating. We eat 3 or 4 a day and they are not hot any longer like raw garlic and you will not walk around smelling like you just crawled out of a garlic vat. You can also buy garlic stuffed olives in the grocery store. Thats the brine I ususaly use.
Hi Arrowwind. You know I didn't think of the capsule form. Is it just as effective as the natural raw garlic?
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Hi healthyfreak,

How's your mom's sleep habits/patterns?

Check out a related thread on the role of sleep in hypertension:

https://www.natmedtalk.com/showthread.php?t=2149

And some links about sleep:

https://www.natmedtalk.com/showthread.php?t=2207

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Hi Gerry, I think she sleeps fine. I don't think she is lacking any sleep. She told me that her hypertension runs in the family. She says that her blood is thicker than normal. She also eats a lot of fish products for that Omega 3 FA. She still needs those BP meds to lower her BP. Her BP is high when she first wakes up, but when she takes her BP med it goes down to normal range within an hour.
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If her blood is thicker than normal she should be on vitamim K2 and nattokinase. I like the brand Block Buster All Clear, it has natto and serapeptase. Two great enzymes for old folks to take. Please! anything but coumadin.

I don't know if anything is as effective as raw garlic but certainly more palatable. You have to do what a person will be compliant with over the long haul. I rather eat pickled garlic than take pills. I read a testimonial there a woman cured her MRSA infection by eating raw garlic. 3 to 4 cloves every 2 to 4 hours, day and night for one month.
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My most effective technique to control my BP reading is to breathe long, slow, and deeply.
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My most effective technique to control my BP reading is to breathe long, slow, and deeply.
Iggy, my bank account would prefer your method!
The Blockbuster All Clear looks like a good product, but, oh my, the cost!
�35 - about $70 for 120 capsules, lasting seven days.
There must be a more economical way to buy this?? Does anyone know one?

https://www.goodhealthnaturally.com/pd_blockbuster.cfm
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Iggy, my bank account would prefer your method!
The Blockbuster All Clear looks like a good product, but, oh my, the cost!
�35 - about $70 for 120 capsules, lasting seven days.
There must be a more economical way to buy this?? Does anyone know one?

https://www.goodhealthnaturally.com/pd_blockbuster.cfm
I save a lot by buying bulk powders from Beyond-a-Century.com.
Don't know if they ship to UK.
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My most effective technique to control my BP reading is to breathe long, slow, and deeply.
And there's actually a $300 gadget which is designed to train us in just that.

https://www.resperate.com/
https://www.resperate.com/discover/wh...resperate.aspx
https://www.resperate.com/discover/cl...?src=wir.next2

But why spend?

All the gadget does is train us to breathe less than 10 breaths a minute and have exhalation times twice as long as inhalation times. (This is really reminiscent of some Chinese qigong, Japanese haragei, and yoga pranayama technics.)

Maybe we're paying for the discipline to do it 15 minutes or so a day?

Well, okay. A $300 one-time expense can be a LOT LESS than months or a lifetime in BP meds. It would be a lot safer, too.

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