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\nThis started about 6 months ago. I started having cramps in my legs at work, this rarely ever happened and I started to have pains in my abdomen that seemed to move or be in multiple places/spots and seem to follow the large intestine.
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\nThe first two MD\'s I went to wanted to do tests of the intestine, mainly ct scan or MRI and colostomy, I have no insurance and don\'t have lot\'s of money so unfortunately the cost of test do play a part of my decisions. The MD I am seeing now didn\'t go that route because I have no observed mucus or blood in the stool he doesn\'t see the need to do those tests right now, he started by checking my stomach acid and it was high and he me taking HCL and digestive aids with meals and supplement drinks and he did a bunch of blood tests which all came back good or in range so he said the blood is not the cause although I could still have an auto-immune disease.
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\nI started using mms and taking mms baths and that does seem to help this, when in the tub there is little or no pain but after the baths the pain is a little worse for awhile then gets better, I think the mms is killing something as I seem to be getting a little better after each bath.
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\nThe pains mainly feel right under the skin, in the soft tissue and maybe in the muscles and the sore areas kinda feel like gristle and I have found a few pee sized hard spots, there is several main spots, mostly around the abdomen and as far as my side near the hip bone and they usually gurgle when rubbed, pressure and rubbing them usually makes the pain feel better, kinda like the pain of just running a few miles...if you know what I mean. laying still or sitting there is very little pain, it\'s bending, moving, etc that is painful and I have sore muscles in quite a few places.
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\nI crave protein and minerals, and water and I am usually drinking something all day, filtered water, powerade, supplement drinks with fresh carrot juice, aloe and apple juice.
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\nI did a vitamin c tolerance test and it took about 25 grams of calcium ascorbic to get me to the toilet, so I have upped my vitamin c intake from about 6 grams to about 12 grams, should I go higher?
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\nI am kinda limited with my options for a doctor, the first two I went to, one GP and one gastrologist wanting to run lot\'s of tests and lot\'s of $$$ that I don\'t have (could barrow if I have to) and the alternative MD I am seeing now doesn\'t believe most of them are necessary, he did ran about $400 in blood tests and said almost everything was in good range so my blood and organs do not appear to be the problem, even though he said I could still have an auto-immune disease, he says if the mms is working, keep using it.
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\nI would like to try anything that may help and kinda point to what this is, do you think this could be fibromyalgia? I need help, I live alone and don\'t have lot\'s of options, my work is only part time any and I am struggling like most, I like the MD I have now (he is open to mms) and diagnosed the stomach problem, he thinks part of the problem is that my body is not getting what it needs and the HCL will help this and there motto is "the right food is the best medicine"....what else can I do?
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\nIt hasn\'t arrived yet so cant give any further info on it but a friend of mine has been making lipsomal c with with it for a while and she is very pleased. With this method of c you can get blood levels equal to that as if you had had vitamin c by IV
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\nI would also suggest that you try a photonic water device. go to www.photonicwater.com and get the table top model. Its about $300 but it comes with a guarantee... read the guarantee carefully before purchase and call them and talk to them. If it doent help then return it.
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I am 53 years old, work outside in Florida, the sun and heat usually don't bother me.

This started about 6 months ago. I started having cramps in my legs at work, this rarely ever happened and I started to have pains in my abdomen that seemed to move or be in multiple places/spots and seem to follow the large intestine.

The first two MD's I went to wanted to do tests of the intestine, mainly ct scan or MRI and colostomy, I have no insurance and don't have lot's of money so unfortunately the cost of test do play a part of my decisions. The MD I am seeing now didn't go that route because I have no observed mucus or blood in the stool he doesn't see the need to do those tests right now, he started by checking my stomach acid and it was high and he me taking HCL and digestive aids with meals and supplement drinks and he did a bunch of blood tests which all came back good or in range so he said the blood is not the cause although I could still have an auto-immune disease.

I started using mms and taking mms baths and that does seem to help this, when in the tub there is little or no pain but after the baths the pain is a little worse for awhile then gets better, I think the mms is killing something as I seem to be getting a little better after each bath.

The pains mainly feel right under the skin, in the soft tissue and maybe in the muscles and the sore areas kinda feel like gristle and I have found a few pee sized hard spots, there is several main spots, mostly around the abdomen and as far as my side near the hip bone and they usually gurgle when rubbed, pressure and rubbing them usually makes the pain feel better, kinda like the pain of just running a few miles...if you know what I mean. laying still or sitting there is very little pain, it's bending, moving, etc that is painful and I have sore muscles in quite a few places.

I crave protein and minerals, and water and I am usually drinking something all day, filtered water, powerade, supplement drinks with fresh carrot juice, aloe and apple juice.

I did a vitamin c tolerance test and it took about 25 grams of calcium ascorbic to get me to the toilet, so I have upped my vitamin c intake from about 6 grams to about 12 grams, should I go higher?

I am kinda limited with my options for a doctor, the first two I went to, one GP and one gastrologist wanting to run lot's of tests and lot's of $$$ that I don't have (could barrow if I have to) and the alternative MD I am seeing now doesn't believe most of them are necessary, he did ran about $400 in blood tests and said almost everything was in good range so my blood and organs do not appear to be the problem, even though he said I could still have an auto-immune disease, he says if the mms is working, keep using it.
He gave me a script for a "anti-fungal" and one for an antibiotic and neither seemed to accelerate my feeling better.

I would like to try anything that may help and kinda point to what this is, do you think this could be fibromyalgia? I need help, I live alone and don't have lot's of options, my work is only part time any and I am struggling like most, I like the MD I have now (he is open to mms) and diagnosed the stomach problem, he thinks part of the problem is that my body is not getting what it needs and the HCL will help this and there motto is "the right food is the best medicine"....what else can I do?

Thanks to all!
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