I don't want to die but I often have thoughts of overdosing or stabbing myself. I have these thoughts very often and wonder if anyone else has experience with thisKeep in mind I don't want to die but the thoughts are constant

Hi miss clean, welcome to the forum! Constantly having thoughts like these is of great concern to me. First let me give a number that you may want to call to talk to someone who is trained in this area.

What has been going on in your life to make you so unhappy, that you're having such thoughts? Sometimes it helps to just share your feelings with others, and get their insights or perspectives on your situation. The fact that you acknowledge that you don't want to die is a positive thing, you can move forward from there.

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I do NOT want to die I am only plagued with thoughts telling me that I will

kill myself. I do not want to commit suidide. I am having obsessive thoughts.

Don't freak out and assume that this is what I am wanting to do. I am only

saying that I have the THOUGHTS constantly.

I'm not freaking out, but I did misunderstand the part about having the thoughts in an obsessive way, my apologies.

There may have been some misunderstanding, but you acted responsibly.
On the basis of the initial information given you did exactly the right thing. I would have done the same.

You're a good-hearted person and you care. I don't think you need to apologise for that, K2C.

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Hello

Sorry to hear about your problem and you are not alone, a lot of OCD sufferers have these thoughts.
In order to find the best way forward for you, it would help if you gave a bit more information.


Have you any other health problems beside OCD?
What age are you?
How long have you had these thoughts?
Are you being treated by a doctor for OCD?
If so what drugs are you on?
Do you, or have you ever suffered from drug abuse?
Are symptoms worse during the premenstrual period?
Do you take the Birth Control pill, or use an IUD?
Do you eat regular meals?
Are you a vegetarian? What foods do you regularly consume?
Do you suffer from other OCD symptoms such as hair pulling, and obsessive rituals?

I have the same problem with thoughts of suicide, however I very much so DO NOT want to kill myself. I think that is why I obsessively fear it, because to me it is the worst thing I could do. I have been plagued with this since I started Effexor at the end of 2009, which I was on for a year, but now I'm on 100mg of zoloft. The urge isn't quite as strong as it was before but it still keeps me from feeling safe enough to be left alone. My dad also passed away at the same time these thoughts started. So it could be that and not the drugs I suppose.

My thoughts range from thinking of jumping out of a moving car, stabbing or slicing myself, shooting myself, jumping off cliffs, jumping out of windows, jumping into traffic, and jumping into the river. My uncle shot and killed himself and I've always been hyper aware of what suicide is and how it affects people since I was a kid. Whenever I try to talk to my mom about these thoughts she thinks I am manipulating her to feel scared and worried but I'm actually just trying to communicate my fears. It really is like OCD thoughts. I have agoraphobia, in the sense that I fear driving by myself (so I don't) and being alone for fear of having a panic attack and going crazy and having the police come and haul me off.

If these 'psychotic episodes' are constant, you should see a psychologist to talk.
Something to read on schizophrenia
https://www.mayoclinic.com/health/schizophrenia/DS00196
Symptoms https://www.mayoclinic.com/health/sch...CTION=symptoms

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Schizophrenia is not OCD and OCD is much easier treated. None of the symptoms reported indicate schizophrenia.


look into GABA supplements, SAMe and behavior modification therapy through a therapist. Many issues with depression and OCD actually originate in an imbalance in the gut flora and poor diet causing toxic systemic results. Heal the gut and the mind will heal too. The vast majority of people with these issues have terrible, and I mean, just terrible diets. Also look into Lithium Orinate... there are also some youtube videos on the subject. Lithium Orinate has proven to be very effective and safe.

If these issuse result from postpartum seek out someone who does bioidentical hormonal replacement work.

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A very interesting post, Arrow. Do you have a follow-up link for all that? I'd be interested to see it.

Right, however, it doesn't hurt to be aware of schizophrenia symptoms as there's several phases. Prodromal is the phase when disorganized thinking, hallucinations & delusions haven't yet begun, but unusual thoughts, anxiety & beginning to distance one's self from friends and activities are gradually happening.
https://www.schizophrenic.com/news/schizophrenia-research/suicide-risk-during-prodromal-phase-schizophrenia

I work in a facility that houses approx 150-200 psych residents who get admitted under medical reasons , most with varying degrees/types of schizophrenia. Many I have spoken to have said they can remember telling people they didn't want to die, but had constant suicidal thoughts for a long time before their thoughts turned into voices. Perhaps their lives would have been different if they were given fish oil and were encouraged to follow 'Practical Suggestions to Lower Risk' as mentioned on this page
https://www.schizophrenic.com/content...nia/prevention

And just because she titled the thread 'OCD Suicidal Thoughts', doesn't mean she's actually OCD as I don't see many symptoms to indicate OCD either.
https://www.mayoclinic.com/health/obsessive-compulsive-disorder/DS00189/DSECTION=symptoms

Miss Clean: I'm so sorry that you are tormented by these thoughts. Whilst I realise that all of this is very tangible to you, they are just thoughts. They don't have a life. They don't determine Fate. Their only element of control is that which you allow them...

I think a healthy diet with exercise is very important in all this.
Arrow's advice is worth investigating and trying in my opinion.

I think in all cases of mental disorder, be it OCD or depression grief or anything else, it is so, so important to keep busy, to keep the mind active and focused on a purpose.

I'm also wondering, looking at the bigger picture, if some involvement in charity or Service, or some project in a field where you have a talent & passion, would give you a change of mindset, where you felt fulfilled with a sense of purpose and direction, and of making a difference in the world.

Its all here on natmedtalk somewhere. I dont have time right now to dig it up but simple google searches and youtube searches should bring you to it. Even schizophrenia can often be altered by taking the right supplements.

Top post, Cookie. Hard to come to any positive conclusion without knowing all the facts, but could be...

Yes, it says in 'Home Doctor' (by Dr Caroline Shreeve) that lack of EFAs or a higher need thereof may be a trigger in schizophrenia.

Most things come down to faulty diet in the final analysis.

If the OP is still looking in, you might like to try bolstering your diet with EFA rich foods e.g. nuts or taking a supplement like Udo's Choice which has omega 3, 6 and 9 in a balanced ratio.

I'm certainly no expert, but if someone says, "Don't think of the color purple." What comes to mind?

Rather than battle trying to block a thought, why not try focusing on something else? Get a new project or perhaps pick up an old project you like.

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