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I'm brand new to this site, but very very excited to have found it! I've already found a wealth of information and hope just from browsing around. I'm particularly eager for information about alternative treatments for cancer. My fiance� was diagnosed about a month ago with Hodgkin lymphoma. The doctors say it's highly curable with the conventional treatments, but we're extremely worried about the toxicity of these and the overall, long-lasting harm they might do to him, including resulting in another type of cancer! We don't want to be worried for the rest of our lives that he might suddenly suffer again.

We've been looking into alternative treatment centers, but it's so hard to know if they're legit! We certainly don't want to delay a toxic but effective treatment to follow something natural that doesn't work, or that is just to make money for a scam company. But we do whole-heartedly believe in the healing powers of plants, nature, supplements, etc.

My fiancee is taking a long, ever-changing list of supplements already (compiled by us to the best of our abilities through internet research). He has changed his diet substantially, taking out anything we've heard/read is bad (we already eat vegan and quite nattie, so this hasn't been too hard)and eating as many of the cancer-fighting foods as we can get our hands on.

Specifically, I was wondering if any of you have had any experience, or know of anyone who has, with Envita Medical Center in Scottsdale, AZ. Also, we've been looking at Camelot Cancer Care in Tulsa. Have you heard of it, or of the main treatment they use, DMSO (dimethyl sulfoxide). Apparently they're the only ones who do it. Is that sketchy, or has it just been so repressed? I absolutely believe that the medical industry is a greedy, incestuous, and self-preserving institution (despite the good intentions and sweet hearts of many doctors). I just don't want us to be taken advantage of by "miracle cures" in this vulnerable situation...any suggestions?


Thank you so much for your help and feed back. I look forward to "meeting" you!
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Definitely no sugar (in any form, molasses, honey, fruit juice etc). Make sure he eats some seaweed (seaweed salads are popular in many Japanese restaurants). Let me look up somethings before I offer any more advice. Read the book " The cancer industry" and a book by andrew weil called "spontaneous healing".
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Is there a role for carbohydrate restriction in the treatment and prevention of cancer?

While I'd fully support a low carbohydrate Paleo type diet for cancer patients I do not think vegan diet would be beneficial.
There are too many nutritional deficits that are difficult to avoid and most people find their health declines over time on a strict vegan diet.
Denise Minger is one ex-vegan who has put her story online.
Humans are a predator species and we should eat like predators not prey.
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If you chose to eat animal based protein, it has to be organic and grass fed; the growth hormones they feed animals will feed the cancer.
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Nutritional Therapy

Nutritional supplements with demonstrated activity against lymphoma cells include:
  • <LI nodeIndex="1">Curcumin <LI nodeIndex="2">Soy extract <LI nodeIndex="3">Vitamins A, C, D, and E <LI nodeIndex="4">Green tea <LI nodeIndex="5">Resveratrol <LI nodeIndex="6">Ginger <LI nodeIndex="7">Fish oils
  • Garlic.
Curcumin. Curcumin, an extract from the spice turmeric, blocks the growth of various types of lymphoma cells, including Burkitt’s lymphoma and EBV B-cell lymphomas (Han SS et al 1999; Ranjan D et al 1999; Wu Y et al 2002b). In addition to arresting the growth of lymphoma cells, curcumin also causes lymphoma cell death by reducing the levels of some genes (c-myc, bcl-2) and mutant p53 proteins (Han SS et al 1999; Ranjan D et al 1999; Wu Y et al 2002c). Curcumin has an additional benefit in that it blocks the production of growth factors that cancer cells require to invade other organs (Dulak J 2005). Clinical studies have shown curcumin supplements to be safe in doses of up to 3.6 grams a day (Gescher A 2004).
Soy Extract. Genistein, found in soy extracts, induces cell death in lymphoma cells (Baxa DM et al 2003; Buckley AR et al 1993). It increases the effectiveness of chemotherapy for lymphoma by making cells more susceptible to agents that cause lymphoma cell death (Mohammad RM et al 2003). Genistein also reduces the ability of cancer cell spread (angiogenesis) by blocking the production of proteins (angiogenesis growth factors) that cancer cells need to form new blood vessels (Dulak J 2005).
Vitamins A and D3. Natural and synthetic vitamin A (also known as retinoids) promote normal cell differentiation and have been used to treat T-cell lymphomas (Kempf W et al 2003; Mahrle G et al 1987; Zhang C et al 2003). Vitamin D3 blocks the growth of lymphoma cells (Mathiasen IS et al 1993).
Green Tea. Green tea, which contains epigallocatechin gallate (EGCG), triggers lymphoma cell death (Bertolini F et al 2000; Katsuno Y et al 2001). In addition, EGCG from green tea reduces the ability of lymphoma cells to invade other organs by blocking the production of growth factors, such as vascular endothelial growth factor (VEGF) and the glycoprotein messenger interleukin-8 (IL-8), which lymphoma cells need to spread (Dulak J 2005).
Vitamins C and E. In experimental studies, vitamin C has improved the effectiveness of chemotherapy in inducing lymphoma cell death (Chen Q et al 2005; Nagy B et al 2003; Prasad SB et al 1992). Vitamin E supplements boost the function of immune cells capable of killing lymphoma cells (Ashfaq MK et al 2000; Dalen H et al 2003b; Dasgupta J et al 1993). Alpha-tocopheryl succinate, a semisynthetic analogue of vitamin E, is a potential adjuvant in cancer treatment (Dalen H et al 2003a).
Resveratrol. Resveratrol, a naturally occurring substance found in grapes, blocks the growth of lymphoma cells and also increases their rate of cell death (Bruno R et al 2003; Park JW et al 2001). Resveratrol sensitizes chemotherapy-resistant lymphoma cells to treatment with paclitaxel-based chemotherapy (Jazirehi AR et al 2004). Resveratrol also reduces the production of growth factors such as VEGF and IL-8, and theoretically should be beneficial in reducing the ability of lymphoma cells to spread to other organs (Dulak J 2005).
Ginger. Extracts from ginger, known as galanals A and B, induce cell death in human lymphoma cells (Miyoshi N et al 2003).
Fish Oil. Eicosapentaenoic acid (EPA) found in fish oil induces cell death in lymphoma cells (Heimli H et al 2001, 2002, 2003). Omega-3 fatty acids in fish oil normalized elevated blood lactic acid in a dose-dependent manner, increasing disease-free survival and survival time for dogs with Stage III lymphoma (Ogilvie GK et al 2000).
Garlic. Garlic extracts can induce death in lymphoma cells (Arditti FD et al 2005; Scharfenberg K et al 1990). Indeed, in a recent study, conjugation of a garlic extract to the antibody rituximab (which targets lymphoma cells) led to the death of these cells (Arditti FD et al 2005).
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If you chose to eat animal based protein, it has to be organic and grass fed; the growth hormones they feed animals will feed the cancer.
We don't have that problem in the UK/EU so I do tend to forget that issue.
I add MELATONIN to the above list It would have to be a TIMED RELEASE melatonin and in conjunction with subdued evening light, total darkness while asleep and a period of BRIGHT LIGHT exposure (preferably with moderate outdoor exercise) during the day.

I'd push 25(OH)D into the 70~80ng/ml level with DAILY usage of 15,000iu (3 x 5000iu/daily) until I'd got a 25(OH)D score in the target range if you aimed a tad higher around 100ng/ml you may find that even better, I think there is good reason to use daily supplements (rather than mega-dosing on larger amounts and longer intervals. I'm happier with a slower steadier more even rise in levels and then maintaining a high and stable 25(OH)D for an extended period.
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Welcome to the forum 'Niiter n' me, don't know if you've read this yet, but here's a past post from Arrowwind09 that might help.
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Do strongly consider vitamin D.

https://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=np&ql=1
A new study has found that the amount of vitamin D in patients being treated for diffuse large B-cell lymphoma was strongly associated with cancer progression and overall survival. The results were presented at the annual meeting of the American Society of Hematology in New Orleans.

Lymphoma is a viral 'induced' cancer. I believe the Herpes virus can cause lymphoma. I would personally take a supplement of pau d'arco and andrographis.
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If it were me Id be doing several things... I would likely do the Hoxey treatment and include coffee enemas, I would get ozone treatments, find someone who does direct ozone treatments, ozone directly injected into the vein, not all docs that do ozone will do this, but it is the way to go IMHO. and I would look into IPT therapy. IPT has a very good track record... but I cant say for sure if it deals with the type of cancer you are facing. You would have to contact them and find out.
https://www.iptforcancer.com/

The Natural News guy, Mike Adams did a seminar this past week on alternative cancer treatments and IPT was heralded by several practitioners... you could also purchase their CD's to get recommendations.. he had some of the leading natural health cancer docs discussing their therapies.

I would also look at the Budwig protocol, easily found on the internet, with the protocol in detail. Don't forget lugols iodine... Hoxey protocol includes Lugols iodine. If it doesn't then you don't have the real thing.

You may also want to look at MMS1 and MMS2 at www.jimhumble.biz. this has cured a number of cancers... read their testimonials.

I also think that Hemp Oil will cure cancer.. but you have to grow the pot yourself and make the oil yourself... I have a post about it under the cancer forumm in a thread called "Run From The Cure". This is the most repressed cancer cure there is and probably the most powerful. It will not make you high or stoned or anything like that.
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There are enzymes serrapeptase and nattokinase, sometimes enzymes (must be taken on an empty stomach) do something to the surface of the tumors that makes your bodies natural defenses recognize the tumor and start attacking at.
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I would be looking at Ozone therapy... an UVB therapy. These are incredible blood detoxifiers and ozone can be applied to lymphatics. I would want to find a doc who does several leading alternative cancer treatments so that he has many tools on hand.

leading choices are IPT, ozone therapy, radio wave frequency, UVB, diet and nutrition, low dose naltrexone, stem cell theapy, poly MVA, detox protocols, IV nutrients

The most critical issue if you are planning to use alternative medicine is to not get radiated and chemoed half to death before you try these. Your best chance is to never have conventional medicine in most cases... although they have some success with lymphoma, still a lot of people die from it... well, I would ask the doc what he thinks the cure rate is... before I let them near me. It better be at least 80 percent.


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Be careful with the term cure rate. Make sure you ask what he/she means. Is it a 5 yr survival rate?
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This is one form of cancer that conventional "treatments" actually work on.

Having said that (and it hurt me more than you'll ever know) I do agree with alot of the posts above, containing the supplements, especially optimal vitamin D3, but would seriously add ESSIAC to the list.

Do a little research on it, or look up a nurse named Rene CAISSE, which is essiac spelled backwards. It really does kill cancer cells, as does resveratrol, green tea extract, and curcumin.
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There is an all natural product that was developed back in 1929 and used specifically to treat cancer patients with excellent results. It is called Laminine. I currently use the product myself for other types of health issues and it has helped me immensely.
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This is one form of cancer that conventional "treatments" actually work on.

Having said that (and it hurt me more than you'll ever know) I do agree with alot of the posts above, containing the supplements, especially optimal vitamin D3, but would seriously add ESSIAC to the list.

Do a little research on it, or look up a nurse named Rene CAISSE, which is essiac spelled backwards. It really does kill cancer cells, as does resveratrol, green tea extract, and curcumin.
There are like 3 or 4 different tumors which chemo has a powerful effect on. One is testicular (assuming it is caught early) and like 3 others but they are very rare ones. As for lung, colon, liver, stomach, pancreatic etc. The positive effect rate is like 10 percent at best (which is worse than it sounds, since it is not this will work on 10 percent of the patients; it is more like this will have a positive effect on 10 percent of the patients and kill off 75 percent much quicker).
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