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I think the Hoxey formula for an herbal is better than Essiac.
Essiac is more like a general tonic that sometimes helps cancer.
Hoxey is a combination of very highpowered herbals against cancer.
You would not really take it for any other reason.

The herbs in hoxey have a very long history for treating cancer, both individually and in combination.
Some of the newer hoxey products have left out the Lugols iodine which also has a history
for cure of some cancers on its own.
If I were to purchase the Hoxey forumula I would get it at Omega Labs in Ecuador.
They are a very responsive and good company that was run out of the USA by the FDA
for their cancer cures. There owner, I believe is in prison at this time and the company is run
by his wife, a naturopath. You can watch the owners videos on youtube, his name is Canton.
The FDA kidnapped him out of an Ecuadorian airport where no extradition laws apply.
He has given everything to help people with cancer and speak the truth.

Seems this company separates out the iodine to be mixed in with the herbal
I would suppose that this is because a very few people cannot tolerate Lugols iodine
or I wonder if over time the iodine will degrade the herbal product.

https://www.herbhealers.com/store/pot...ml#ingredients
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Thank you all soooo much for all your advice! You have given me so many more leads and lots of hope! He is already taking most of the supplements mentioned, but we've had trouble finding good soy and ginger extracts.

Also, where can we find melatonin and laminine? How can we test to see if he's getting enough Vitamin D? I've gotten confused by some things I've read that say too much can cause hypercalcimia...

Essiac is something that definitely keeps coming up. We bought some and he started taking it today, but I don't know how to tell if it's well made. Billy Best's mom says that there is only one brand that has the right recipe (she's a distributor). I did find information on the proportions on another website, so I might try making it. Any suggestions on which is better? Store-bought (from whom?) or homemade? I know a woman who made if for her husband as he fought head and neck cancer (using both alternative and conventional treatments). He is in good health now! And she also recommended Essiac. I will DEFINITELY look in to the Hoxey formula, too, as that sounds even stronger.

Many people have told us that Hodgkin's is highly treatable and curable with conventional medicine, but as saved1986 pointed out, the numbers they give are five year statistics. I don't know if people who are treated for this, recover, then suffer from a different kind of cancer because of the treatment, are considered in the long term statistics for Hodgkin's or if they get put into the statistics for the second kind of cancer instead. We don't want the fear of this coming back to haunt us forever...

We are living in Alabama right now, but we are willing to (and almost planning on) traveling else where if there is better nattie care available. If any of you can recommend naturopaths or healers, that would be wonderful! Especially if he could start seeing someone around here soon while we plan our next moves...

Sorry this message is so scattered; I have to write it in bits as I have a minute here and there. I wish I had time to reply to each post, because you've all been wonderful...but it's a full time job researching all of this, keeping him on schedule with which pills to take when, not to mention food and appointments and phone calls! I really really appreciate all of your help and it's great to know we're not without support in our wariness of conventional treatment. Blessings to all of you!
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You can find melatonin at your local CVS pharmacy as well a vitamin D. Possibly Walgreens too. 3 mg of melatonin is good. Hypercalcimia is not common if you are concerned about too much vitamin D. I think 5000IU is a good daily amount. I would worry about a long duration of more than that. I take that much daily for nearly a year now. It requires a blood test to measure vitamin D levels.

I'm sorry I don't know much about Hodgkins. I have had 2 friends with Non-Hodgkins. It was fatal for them. They only worked within the mainstream medical world, and tried absolutely no alternatives. I know those 2 types of lymphoma are quite different yet have some similarities.
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These health salon articles will help you to understand vitamin D3... also a lead to a home test for about $60.
https://www.google.com/cse?cx=partner...0D3&gsc.page=1

Id start out at a higher dosage than 5,000. Due to disease he could be very depleted. 10,000 daily.. They deep upping the dosage and with cancer you want your level up around 90
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Thank you all soooo much for all your advice! You have given me so many more leads and lots of hope! He is already taking most of the supplements mentioned, but we've had trouble finding good soy and ginger extracts.

Also, where can we find melatonin and laminine? How can we test to see if he's getting enough Vitamin D? I've gotten confused by some things I've read that say too much can cause hypercalcimia...

Essiac is something that definitely keeps coming up. We bought some and he started taking it today, but I don't know how to tell if it's well made. Billy Best's mom says that there is only one brand that has the right recipe (she's a distributor). I did find information on the proportions on another website, so I might try making it. Any suggestions on which is better? Store-bought (from whom?) or homemade? I know a woman who made if for her husband as he fought head and neck cancer (using both alternative and conventional treatments). He is in good health now! And she also recommended Essiac. I will DEFINITELY look in to the Hoxey formula, too, as that sounds even stronger.

Many people have told us that Hodgkin's is highly treatable and curable with conventional medicine, but as saved1986 pointed out, the numbers they give are five year statistics. I don't know if people who are treated for this, recover, then suffer from a different kind of cancer because of the treatment, are considered in the long term statistics for Hodgkin's or if they get put into the statistics for the second kind of cancer instead. We don't want the fear of this coming back to haunt us forever...

We are living in Alabama right now, but we are willing to (and almost planning on) traveling else where if there is better nattie care available. If any of you can recommend naturopaths or healers, that would be wonderful! Especially if he could start seeing someone around here soon while we plan our next moves...

Sorry this message is so scattered; I have to write it in bits as I have a minute here and there. I wish I had time to reply to each post, because you've all been wonderful...but it's a full time job researching all of this, keeping him on schedule with which pills to take when, not to mention food and appointments and phone calls! I really really appreciate all of your help and it's great to know we're not without support in our wariness of conventional treatment. Blessings to all of you!

Macrobiotics has had tremendous positive effects on people with cancer, but every cancer is different. What part of alabama?
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This is one form of cancer that conventional "treatments" actually work on.

Having said that (and it hurt me more than you'll ever know) I do agree with alot of the posts above, containing the supplements, especially optimal vitamin D3, but would seriously add ESSIAC to the list.

Do a little research on it, or look up a nurse named Rene CAISSE, which is essiac spelled backwards. It really does kill cancer cells, as does resveratrol, green tea extract, and curcumin.
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Hello. Yes, as Pinballdoctor says Essiac/4 herb tea is, in my opinion, the best natural cancer treatment - and very affordable.

Also, yes, vitamin D.

You're vegan I see - so am I - quite right, dairy and red meat are the last things you need when battling cancer.
Cut out sugary foods as well. Sugar fuels cancer.

Centre your diet on organic vegetables esp. cruciferous i.e. broccoli, cauliflower, cabbage, kale and brussel sprouts.
This will provide plenty of cancer-fighting antioxidants and will also help to centre the body's acid:alkaline balance. A vital, but often overlooked component in the battle against cancer.

Hodgkin's has been linked to amalgam in dental fillings. If you think this might be a factor take plenty of coriander to help detox the system of heavy metals.

Raw or very lightly cooked garlic is also to be highly recommended as this increases glutahione levels and decreases levels of homocysteine.
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You're vegan I see - so am I - quite right, dairy and red meat are the last things you need when battling cancer.
While this may be true of intensively raised/industrially farmed dairy and meat as present in USA and increasingly being promoted in the UK, we can still obtain traditionally raised/farmed meat and dairy in the UK which doesn't come with added hormones or high omega 6 levels. The evidence against traditionally sourced meats and dairy is NOT CONCLUSIVE and there is greater overlap between what healthy vegans and healthy paleo style omnivores agree constitutes healthy eating that there is that divides us.
Sure we have to get rid of highly processed junk foods but we don't have to become vegans or vegetarians to avoid cancer or slow it's progression. If we are going to achieve our full potential as humans we have to understand that we are a PREDATOR species and we need to eat as predator and not PREY.

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Cut out sugary foods as well. Sugar fuels cancer.
That's a good start but we have to understand that carbohydrates are digested to form glucose so cutting down carbs particularly refined carbohydrates that raise Blood glucose high or fast is the first step. which inevitably means an increase in fat and a search for the healthiest traditional sources of saturated fat?
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While this may be true of intensively raised/industrially farmed dairy and meat as present in USA and increasingly being promoted in the UK, we can still obtain traditionally raised/farmed meat and dairy in the UK which doesn't come with added hormones or high omega 6 levels. The evidence against traditionally sourced meats and dairy is NOT CONCLUSIVE and there is greater overlap between what healthy vegans and healthy paleo style omnivores agree constitutes healthy eating that there is that divides us.
Sure we have to get rid of highly processed junk foods but we don't have to become vegans or vegetarians to avoid cancer or slow it's progression. If we are going to achieve our full potential as humans we have to understand that we are a PREDATOR species and we need to eat as predator and not PREY.

That's a good start but we have to understand that carbohydrates are digested to form glucose so cutting down carbs particularly refined carbohydrates that raise Blood glucose high or fast is the first step. which inevitably means an increase in fat and a search for the healthiest traditional sources of saturated fat?
Ted, given the nature of this particular thread it would not be appropiate or gentlemanly to take it off topic, so ....
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Ted, given the nature of this particular thread it would not be appropiate or gentlemanly to take it off topic, so ....
So perhaps it would help if you Kindly refrained from making comments that have no basis in scientific fact.
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Hello. Yes, as Pinballdoctor says Essiac/4 herb tea is, in my opinion, the best natural cancer treatment - and very affordable.

Also, yes, vitamin D.

You're vegan I see - so am I - quite right, dairy and red meat are the last things you need when battling cancer.
Cut out sugary foods as well. Sugar fuels cancer.

Centre your diet on organic vegetables esp. cruciferous i.e. broccoli, cauliflower, cabbage, kale and brussel sprouts.
This will provide plenty of cancer-fighting antioxidants and will also help to centre the body's acid:alkaline balance. A vital, but often overlooked component in the battle against cancer.

Hodgkin's has been linked to amalgam in dental fillings. If you think this might be a factor take plenty of coriander to help detox the system of heavy metals.

Raw or very lightly cooked garlic is also to be highly recommended as this increases glutahione levels and decreases levels of homocysteine.
Knight, thank you for the great info. I would like to add a statement though. In the US, what you refer to as Coriander is actually Cilantro. Coriander here means the seeds of the plant.
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As I understand it, this thread is on behalf of a young gentleman suffering from Hodgkins lymphoma and seeking help for the same. It is neither the time nor the place for you or anyone else to usurp the thread for their own purposes.

There is plenty of scientific fact, as you put it, that disagrees with you, but that issue is not appropiate for this thread.
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We need a flame board in the off topic section.
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Thank you, Saved. The point I was making, or trying to make, was that behind this thread is a real person, with a real problem, who needs our help and we shouldn't lose sight of that.

Other issues belong on other threads.
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Thank you, Saved. The point I was making, or trying to make, was that behind this thread is a real person, with a real problem, who needs our help and we shouldn't lose sight of that.

Other issues belong on other threads.
Good point. For whatever reason, there are different names for a few things here. Coriander is a spice of the seeds, Cilantro is the chinese parsley that you refere to as cilantro. Also, what you call aubergines (sp?) we call eggplant. There are a couple other I cannot remember. Also, as ted has pointed out, the meat in your country supposedly is raised naturally (do you have labels that say product of the UK onm them?) Our meats come from everywhere, US, mexico, canada, brazil and supposedly china. As for vegan being healthy, I have a cousin with severe chrohn's and until a yr ago she was a vegan (the only natural way she tried that worked). Now she eats a little fish, but no ther meat or dairy.
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