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Old 04-25-2011, 05:21 AM
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My husband was diagnosed with esophageal cancer a week ago. Ironically, he retired and had his 65th birthday one week before his diagnoses. Just when we were looking forward to some leisure time to enjoy the grandkids, just relax and maybe travel a bit.

We were overjoyed when the diagnosing doctor opted to not have him treated locally, but referred him to Barnes Hospital (St Louis MO) This is a huge teaching hospital that should be up to date on the latest treatments.

We were dismayed to learn that he was reffered to a chemotherapist. He is schedule for a consult in two days.

I have always been an advocate of natural healing so I began researching natural cancer treatments. There are many that can be done at home. There are a few doctors that treat naturally I am most impressed with Dr. Nicholas Gonzales. He is one of the few alternative doctors that will put his prices on the internet.

$3,600 for the initial consult. That does not include blood work. Estimate $750 a month for the supplements. follow up at 6 months is $750 and other office visits are 200 each, Not to mention travel and lodging. He is in New York, we are in Missouri.

Granted, that is only a small part of what a traditional doctor makes, but a lot of traditional costs are covered by insurance, and the American Cancer Society and other organizations will help with transportation and lodging cost.

Since my husband has esophageal cancer, he is have a lot of trouble swallowing, can't take a lot of pills, they have to small and easy to swallow. We were hoping for surgery to relieve his swallowing problem then refusing chemo or radiation and treating him with supplements and alternative therapies that we can administer at home.

Of course, cancer is an expensive condition to treat no matter how you go about it, but I am really bummed at the cost of being treaterd by alternative health doctors and the lack of availibility. Sure we can opt for alternative treatments, if we are rich

Do it looks like the poor folks have the option of dying from cancer or dying from traditional medicine.

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Old 04-25-2011, 02:40 PM
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Your always going to be paying top rate for an alternative cancer treatment from someone of Dr Gonzales reputation and because of the amount of research he has put into developing his treatments.

He has just done an article outlining the history of his research and treatments with Dr Mercola.

https://articles.mercola.com/sites/ar...reatments.aspx
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Ann, it's true, the costs can be high, especially since insurance companies have chosen to opt out of alternative treatments, but you do have some options. Have you look into acupuncture and Chinese herbs (which can be given as tea, since he has trouble swallowing)? (some insurance companies will even cover acupuncture, although they may not cover the herbs). My friend with serious cancer of the esophagus in advanced stage went to my acupuncturist and was treated with Chinese herbs for less than $200, including the first appointment, which were extremely effective. Within days he noticed improvement in swallowing, etc. His appetite, energy and appearance were significantly improved within the first 2 weeks of the herbs. Unfortunately he then made the mistake of telling his doctors what he was doing to improve so fast. They told him to immediately discontinue the herbs and talked him into doing chemotherapy instead. He died several months later. I truly believe the herbs were working, as did his family and friends, but his doctor's lack of faith (and knowledge) in alternative care stopped the success his was having. We were all saddened to watch him fade and then finally lose his battle after he went back to traditional medical treatments.

Another thing to look into is Essiac herbs and also Dr. Simoncini's baking soda cancer remedy. There is also a baking soda and maple syrup remedy for cancer that is getting very good fast results with cancers of all kinds.

I wish you and your husband the best. Don't give up..keep researching, you're on the right track.

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I would just like to add that three years ago I had very good luck treating my bladder cancer with baking soda.
Further, I would not trust the use of maple syrup unless one knows some one who has actually benefited from its use.
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Wow, $3600 for initial consult. It must be extensive, especially since you don't have a follow up until 6 months.

It is a maddening system and unfair. You could research it and try it yourself but if you can afford it, sounds like you'd be in good hands.

I've spent a lot on alternative care and high quality food, living simply and making sacrfices in other areas but many can't even do that.

One of the highly respected doctors that specializes in my condition charges exhorbitant prices that only the very rich can afford, I think because otherwise he'd be flooded with thousands of patients and the waiting list would be really long, and also to get money for research so he can find answers and solutions.

It's also a shame that there's not many really excellent alternative doctors.
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I would certainly look into using baking soda for esophgeal cancer, which is likely caused by fungus...

It is clear that baking soda does not work for all cancers... but those cancers that are caused by fungus I think there is a greater chance. I think Dr Simoncini has a protocol for esophegeal cancer on his site... I have lost the link due to computer crash. I dont see why it could not be used with any conventional therapy you do.

Many alterntive treatments are expensive, and many are not. The problem lies in knowing which treatment will work for each individual situation.
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No, sorry, cancer is not caused by "fungus." That is frankly a ridiculous assertion made by Simonici with nothing to back it up - including pretty much every oncologist on the planet.

Further, sorry but ingesting baking soda does not kill cancer cells. Your body's pH is very tightly regulated, and even if you ate an entire box of baking soda, it would at best only change the pH of your urine (and perhaps make you sick or worse). The idea that the baking soda somehow magically isn't absorbed by your body until it reaches cancer cells is utter fantasy with no basis in fact or even common sense.

Ann, please consider that "traditional" medicine, despite its imperfections, is not "evil" or all controlled by the mafia or jabba the hut or whatever, and may offer him his best chance for survival.

And as you can see, traditional doctors aren't the only ones who have no problem making lots of money for their services. The diff is traditional doctors are under the scrutiny and tight regulation of the AMA, the govt, etc etc, while "alternative" doctors typically are not, at least if they put up enough disclaimers about their alleged cures.

I wish you and your husband the best whatever you decide.
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Has quackwatch invaded our forum?

Go home.

Treating fungus has cured some cancers.
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Go home.

Treating fungus has cured some cancers.

Childish hissies and personal attacks not only waste everyone's time but do not exactly enhance your credibility FYI. Can we stick to the topic?

You present more claims with no basis in fact. The idea that cancer is a fungus is unproven, to put it kindly, and there is no substantiated evidence that treating it as such cures or has cured even a single case of cancer. I'll hold my breath waiting for some.
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I have always been an advocate of natural healing so I began researching natural cancer treatments. There are many that can be done at home. There are a few doctors that treat naturally I am most impressed with Dr. Nicholas Gonzales. He is one of the few alternative doctors that will put his prices on the internet.
I suggest you read this: https://www.nydailynews.com/archives/...2_5m-plus.html
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We have spent around $1500.00. Worth everything I have though. I am thankful to see her healing and gaining strength. Yes the doctor said the cancer was attached to her esophagus like rebar to cement but it healed and he is allowing her to drink and eat soup plus feed through the tube with the supplements.
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