Selenium Role and Importance

[bifrost99]

I'm transferring some links from the other forum where they could be kept as reference here. 8)

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https://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/selenium.asp

Since the late '70s, I've already learned about the value of this mineral. Somehow, I don't hear much of it being "advertised" as much as the other minerals or nutrients.

Note that selenium and vitamin E work synergistically (effect more than the sum of both), so it would be best to take both.

I've known about selenium's observed need in cancer and I used it as a big part of my recommendations which led to my dad's recovery from prostate cancer. And being synergistic with vitamin E, I presumed its role in cardiovascular disease as well as in the immune response. What I find new is its role in arthritis (though I've used it for canine hip dysplasia, along with vitamins E and C).

https://www.news.cornell.edu/releases/Jan97/selenium.ssl.html (new at 1997?)

https://www.journalclub.org/vol2/a39.html (JAMA article -- a "mere" 200 mcg used -- what if more were used?)

https://www.icnr.com/articles/iodineseleniumcancer.html

https://www.personalconsult.com/articles/seleniumpreventscancer.html

https://www.swedish.org/110953.cfm

https://www.prostate-cancer.org/education/nutrprod/selenium.html
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Using a veterinary preparation:
https://www.futurevisions.org/health_s-h_aces.htm
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https://www.newstarget.com/016446.html
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Selenium and iodine:
https://www.ithyroid.com/iodine.htm

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I got another interesting link. This one is on selenium

https://www.karlloren.com/biopsy/book/p5.htm#Selenium

but you can see the table of contents at the top of the page that this is part of a thesis paper towards a ND degree of Dr. Rossenberg, and that other parts in the thesis can be of some interest.

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Could a humble nutrient avert a bird 'flu pandemic?

That's the title of the article found here:

https://tinyurl.com/oce7a (Click on the appropriate button at the top to proceed to succeeding pages of the article.)

While it deals with the disease in birds, it has a couple of maps showing selenium deficient areas of Europe and North America.

And while applied on birds, I see no reason why it could not be applied on mammals.

We could really be neglecting selenium's importance. And since it's synergistic with vitamin E, we might be neglecting the full impact of E-selenium combo. So it's not only for cancer, but for infections as well. This is to be expected of any nutrient acting on the immune system.

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Selenium and vitamin E are synergistic, so it's always better to have both. Note the "more powerful" vitamin E, tocotrienol, which we can get from unpolished rice, oats, wheat (germ), rye, barley, coconut oil, and palm oil, among others.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tocotrienol

https://www.tocotrienol.org/sources.htm

https://www.tocotrienol.org/

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Just want to keep the references around. It's just getting buried in the other forum. :lol:


Gerry

 

[Xania]

Thanks for that Gerry. In fact, we could make a specific topic, and "sticky" it, just for important links, such as these.
Shall we call it "Important links" or is there another , more appropriate title?

 

[bifrost99]

I would like to see a separate board for them (the links), instead of just a thread? Then there could be various threads on that board for links specific to certain topics? Hope it's not too much work for you.

Gerry

 

[Mad Scientest]

This sounds like an excellent idea. Perhaps we could add a general information directory on the forum index? Then as Gerry said this could have various threads containing links to specific topics. The only problem I see is how do you decide what to include?

Personally I know I have read many links and though “wow” this is good information. But if I have no immediate need it quickly becomes lost and going back at a latter date and trying to rediscover it can be difficult at best.

 

[Xania]

Mad Scientest says "How do we decide what to include?"

Never an easy answer to that one!
Perhaps we should group the links under various headings - links relating to nutrition, exercise, cancer, new treatments. Already many decisions to make in just those few words.
I have PMed Kevin and asked him to create a new sub-forum for this. He is always helpful, so I know something good will appear.

 

[Xania]

WE have a new sub-forum now
Links. You will find it on the Index page, next down from General Discussion.

Thank you Kevin.

 

[Xania]

This sounds like an excellent idea. Perhaps we could add a general information directory on the forum index? Then as Gerry said this could have various threads containing links to specific topics. The only problem I see is how do you decide what to include?

Personally I know I have read many links and though “wow” this is good information. But if I have no immediate need it quickly becomes lost and going back at a latter date and trying to rediscover it can be difficult at best.

Can you give us an outline of what you have in mind when you say General Information Index.
Do you mean changing the names of the sub forums as they are now, or to add another, or ??? Thanks.

 

[Lab Rat]

Hi All,

If I come across a web page that I might find interesting, here’s what I’ve been doing. First, I created a directory on the local C: drive which is called ‘HeIs’. This is short for ‘Health Issues’. Inside this directory, additional sub-directories were created such as AntiAging, Butter, CoQ10, etc. Upon finding an interesting web page, click on “File” on the menu bar and select “Save As…”. This displays a “Save Web Page” dialog box. In the “Save In:” field navigate to the appropriate sub-directory. In the “File name:” field, enter a file name to change the displayed name. In the “Save as type:” field, select “Web Page, complete (*.htm;*.html). Finally, click on the “Save” button or press the “Enter” key. This saves a copy of the web page on the local C: drive. If a new sub-directory needs to be created, this can be done in the “Save Web Page” dialog. Navigate to the “HeIs” directory and right click in the list of folders and select “New” from the first menu and “Folder” on the second menu. Enter the desired name for the New Folder, open it and save the web page.

To perform a search, in Windows explorer, right-clicking on the directory ‘HeIs’ will bring up a menu. Select “Search…” from this menu which should display a “Search Results” dialog. In the “A word or phrase in the file:” field, enter a word or phrase which is known to be in a saved web page. For example, entering “grape seed extract” (without the quotes) will bring up a listing of all the saved web pages which contain this phrase. There should be two listings for each web page. One should be the document and the other a folder that holds graphics. Double clicking on the document should open the saved copy of the web page.

In my mind, this is much more efficient than trying to perform another web search for a page that I know I’ve seen before. Of course, this is not as good as having links listed on the forum. I think having a Links topic is a great idea. Just be sure to include a good discription of the links so that a search can be made.

 

[Mad Scientest]

Can you give us an outline of what you have in mind when you say General Information Index.
Do you mean changing the names of the sub forums as they are now, or to add another, or ???

The “new links category” is what I would consider general information and should follow the same format. Clicking on it would reveal the standard health topics, Nutrition, Dentistry, Vision, etc. Clicking on one of them would then reveal all the links that are related to that topic.

I am thinking that these links should be limited to articles, research papers, test results, etc. rather then how my aunt Hildegard cured her curved spine by bungee cord jumping. While aunt Hildegard’s cure might be interesting it would be better if it stayed in the general discussion category. On the other hand articles linked to from here need not necessarily carry the AMA, FDA etc. seal of approval.

What would be helpful is if each link had a brief sentence or two to describe its contents. Thus if I were to go to a topic on hangnails and one of the links description tells of their removal with the use of a double edged axe, I can quickly determine if I want more information.

The main problem is how do we determine what links to include? If Xania, Arrowwind were to have the oversight to make this determination I am sure that they would quickly become overwhelmed by having to reading all of the links.
On the other hand if everyone is allowed to insert links there is the possibility that many might not have any real value and the good stuff would get lost in the clutter. Sooo what if there was some way that those who read a new link could “vote” on whether it should be saved, if it gets enough votes it is then copied to the “link category”. Can Kevin tell us if this possible, is there a simple way of doing this, or something else along that line?

 

[Xania]

Kevin has another PM waiting for him on his return. He is travelling with family this week and says please be patient if we do not get fast replies!

Enjoy your holiday time Kevin. We shall appreciate your advice on this matter when you return.

Concerning the links, I had wondered if we need a Links Moderator, but the suggestion of everyone voting on whether a link is to be kept or not is perhaps the better one. If anyone wants to volunteer to be a links moderator - - - - I leave the subject open for discussion!

 

[Xania]

I will use this thread for this post, as it has the most discussion on it so far. Kevin has sent a good suggestion, which needs everyone's input. Please read what he sent me, then contact Kevin or me to say if we should do this.
Thanks.
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About the link organization, you may want to have a look at the directory format, here is an example: https://www.nicedir.com/. You start the categories from scratch, you can add any categories/sub-categories. Anyone can suggest a link with a description, then you can review the link and approve/deny it accordingly.

If you like this format, I can setup the program and add a link on the top of the forum. The URL would look like this: https://xxx.medsictalk.com/ or https://www.medscitalk.com/xxx/
xxx is the name you pick up, such as "resource", "links", etc.

Let me know if you want me to setup this.

 

[Mad Scientest]

I do not see any problem with this “directory format”, it has your basic categories and sub-categories if they are needed.
But how would the approve/deny aspect of it work?

 

[Xania]

I don't know the answer to that yet. It wouldn't be practical to rely on one person to make the decision about which links remain and which get discarded. It has to be a forum decision.
I think we need someone with the mind of a librarian to help us.
If we carry on putting links on this thread for now, we can hope that in a few days we shall have a better answer.