Massive Melt of Andes Glaciers

Solstice Goat

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And in other news...................

BOSTON (AP) — Up to a foot of snow fell in parts of southern New England with the latest winter storm to move through the Northeast, national weather forecasters said Sunday.
The storm began Saturday afternoon and ended by Sunday morning, with some power outages but no reports of critical injuries or major property damage. Dry weather was expected for days in southern New England, although strong winds may chill the bones.
Meteorologist Frank Nocera of the National Weather Service in Taunton, Mass., said southern New England appeared to be the hardest hit.
Six to 12 inches of snow fell in Rhode Island, eastern Connecticut and eastern Massachusetts, including Foxborough where the New England Patriots play. The exception was at Boston and the Cape Cod area where rain was mixed with snow. There two to four inches fell. Many residents lost power after wet snow piled up on power lines.
The storm spread over the Northeast and parts of Ohio on Saturday, just days after the regions were hit by another storm that moved in from the nation's midsection.
New York City and Philadelphia saw a mix of rain and snow, and drivers throughout the regions were warned to be cautious. About 20 vehicles piled up in a storm-related chain-reaction crash on Interstate 93 in New Hampton, N.H., police said, and five people were injured.
Officials lowered the speed limit on much of the Pennsylvania Turnpike, about 300 miles from the Ohio state line to east-central Pennsylvania, from 65 mph to 45 mph. Flights at Philadelphia's airport, mostly arrivals, were delayed about an hour, spokeswoman Stacy Jackson said.
In Albany, N.Y., a regional jet skidded into a snow bank at the airport and became stuck, temporarily stranding passengers en route to Chicago. The 66 passengers and four crew members aboard the GoJet Airlines flight, operating as United Express, were put on a bus and sent back to the airport. There were no injuries, and the incident didn't cause any other flight delays, airport authority spokesman Doug Myers said.
In Ohio, Dayton, Columbus and Cincinnati saw about 2 to 5 inches of snow by Saturday afternoon, the National Weather Service said.




http://news.yahoo.com/storm-leaves-foot-snow-england-110134876.html


Man, this whole 'global warming' thing is gonna freeze us to death! :lol:
 

Solstice Goat

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Ooops, wrong England!!!!!!

The snowfall across Great Britain and Ireland in January 2013 refers to a prolonged period of snowfall that began on 14 January 2013, and affected large areas within much of Great Britain and Ireland.
An initial fall of heavy snow occurred in the early hours of 14 January that affected England, Wales, and Scotland.[1] Following this widespread snowfall, lighter but still considerable snowfall was reported on most days, except for a slight respite on 16 January. However, the worst of the snowfall arrived on 18 January across most of the UK. This led to the Met Office issuing a rare red warning for severe snowfall - the highest warning possible of its type - for parts of Wales on the 18th, while much of England was placed under an amber warning, the second-highest level, that same day. As well as heavy snow warnings, weather warnings were also issued across England and Wales due to ice, especially on 19 January. Also, the Met Office declared a Level 3 Cold Weather Alert across England, the second-highest level for cold weather in this special advanced warning system, on most days following 14 January.[2] Another band of heavy snow crossed the UK, this time from the south to the north, on 20-21 January.
Snowfall forced the cancellation of flights at a number of British airports, including Birmingham, Heathrow, and Southampton.[3] At Heathrow, more than 400 flights were cancelled on 18 January,[4] followed by over 100 more during the morning of 19 January[5] and 20% of the total number of flights on 20 January.[6] There was also widespread disruption to other forms of transport across the UK, with many roads, even some major routes, becoming blocked and impassable. As many as 3,000 schools were closed in England,[7] while in Northern Ireland, heavy snow downed power lines, leaving over 2,400 homes along the eastern coast of County Down without power.[8] Further large power cuts were reported in the towns of Banbridge and Craigavon, also in Northern Ireland.




https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_2013_Great_Britain_and_Ireland_snowfall :wave:
 

knightofalbion

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You're an expert on British weather, Mr Goat?
We had an exceptionally dry spring. An exceptionally wet summer. An exceptionally wet winter (i.e. rain not snow because its been so mild)
2012 was England's wettest year on record.
Our weather patterns shifted distinctly this year, as has happened elsewhere.

And what has all this got to do with the Andes glaciers retreating?
 

jfh

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We had an exceptionally dry spring. An exceptionally wet summer. An exceptionally wet winter (i.e. rain not snow because its been so mild)
2012 was England's wettest year on record.
Our weather patterns shifted distinctly this year, as has happened elsewhere.
I'm really, really hoping that your weather will be more mild by the last week of May when I will be sampling it myself. Wishing and hoping never worked for me however.

The Andes situation is real scary. I worry about our fresh water throughout the world. Even migration won't help. There's really nowhere that people, especially millions can go. A few years ago, the only water reservoir for the Atlanta GA area was drying up due to drought. They spent very much money to pipe water from a reservoir in North and South Carolina. Southern California could not survive without diverting water from the Colorado river or water from northern California. The Austin Texas area has been in a drought for nearly a decade, yet the population keeps expanding. There's not enough work being done with desalination of ocean waters.

The melting of ice in the Greenland and Iceland area is dumping fresh water into the Atlantic. I suspect this is changing the nature of the Gulf Stream and affecting your climate in UK. The warm/hot Gulf of Mexico is certainly affecting my winter weather in Austin. Yesterday our winter temp got up to 80F (27C), very pleasant for me, but very unusual for winter. We've had a week of that kind of climate. Even the fire ants are constructing their forts, when they should still be deep in the soil. This is a bad omen for another possible record breaking heat for summer.
 

knightofalbion

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Last week in May. If I was touring England that would be the week I'd choose, or probably the week before to avoid the Whitsun bank holiday/half-term. The weather is usually very good at that time.
What parts are you going to visit? If you've time, you've got to see the Cotswolds. The heart of England.

Yes, though ironically in the first 2 or 3 months of last year large parts of England were under drought orders! No danger of that this year!

I agree with what you say, water will be the oil of the 21st century. Some places are going have too much, detrimentally so and some places are going to have too little.

The Texas drought has been well reported here. In the short term it means loss of crops, In the medium term it means erosion of the top soil. In the long term, rising population, impoverished soil, decline in food supply and dwindling water resources...Many civilizations in times past have fallen through similar scenarios.
 

jfh

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In the long term, rising population, impoverished soil, decline in food supply and dwindling water resources...Many civilizations in times past have fallen through similar scenarios.
This is true even for the Andes. Recent investigation leans toward such a scenario for the Incas. Machu Picchu was very probably abandoned even before the arrival of the Spanish, perhaps as a result of the Incas' civil war. Or perhaps it was drought that drove the Incas elsewhere.

BTW, I will be renting an apartment in Edinburgh and take day trips elsewhere.

I think you better get prepared for a nasty storm coming your way very soon. More powerful that hurricane Sandy. http://thewatchers.adorraeli.com/2013/01/27/powerful-arctic-storm-bombing-out-in-north-atlantic/
 

happy2bhere

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Weather can be determined with solar happenings, correct and those pesky jet streams determine certain weather changes, correct?

AND...methane. Is there a HIGHER than normal amount in the ionosphere causing the warming...drying up the reserves, causing bizarre weathers?

And why do I keep reading about "THE FLOODS"? That there will be MORE in areas not prone? Is this real? April floods?

How do they "predict" weather fluctuations? How can someone predict that one area is going to suffer dry conditions and others will be flooded? help
 

happy2bhere

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Is it too late to stop the manipulation in our sky?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=_lgPGdgBTaY#!

Dane Wigington claims cataclysmic event in 2015 if this continues. That the current program to ASSIST the globe - is in fact, doing the OPPOSITE. We are NOT warming - we are COOLING while the METHANE is melting and all hell is breaking loose.

This "procedure" has been ongoing for 6 decades. Now? We are in trouble.
http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/what-you-can-do/

#1. EXPOSE CHEMTRAILS TO THE PUBLIC

You Can Expose Chemtrails in 30-to-300 Seconds
We have spoken to many people about chemtrails. Guess what we discovered.
Most people have no idea that this is taking place, but when they are told about it, most of them immediately begin to ask questions. Some even begin to wonder if their ailments are related to it.
It’s amazing the difference that simple exposure can make.
Please, take a couple minutes each day to do something. The ongoing effects of your simple actions have far Preview Changes more influence than you realize.


 

happy2bhere

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As many others have done, Dr. Sarah Cornell uses the implausibility of aerosol spraying as a means of climate mitigation to argue that it is not happening so that we should ignore the evidence of our senses. Absurdities like this derail dialogue. We have to make sure that it doesn't derail dialogue for us also.
The first step required for Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde to become an integrated entity is that the demands give way to a question: “Is the spraying of substances from aircraft an acceptable answer to the problem of climate change?”

The mass media’s, the politicians’ and climate scientists’ answer to the question has so far been: “No, it isn’t, and it isn’t happening!”
Civil society’s and climate scientists’ answer to the question must become: “No, it isn’t, and it is happening.”

Final comment from W.H.
(wayne hall)
It seems that aerosol operations (including what we call ‘chemtrails’) have been effective in mitigating some of the symptoms of climate change. Anthropogenic climate change sceptics have taken advantage of this ‘success’ of their opponents to reinforce their own assertion that anthropogenic climate change is not occurring!! If the aerosol operations were conducted with full transparency and full cognizance of the public, trickery of this kind would be impossible because the relations between cause and effect would be obvious. But as things are, the lies are mutually self-reinforcing. The deceit that no deliberate spraying of aerosols is in progress strengthens the deceit that anthropogenic climate change is a myth. How many climate scientists worry about the fact that by concealing mitigation activities they strengthen the hand of ‘greenhouse sceptics’, i.e. climate change debunkers.
http://www.holmestead.ca/chemtrails/jekyll-hyde.pdf
 

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happy2bhere, I agree once again with your comments, and as well the volcanic erruptions are causing a lot of pollution, I listened to a talk back radio show the other night where Lord Monkton was talking about climate change it was very interesting and went for 4 hours, I will see if I can find a link to the transcript and post it on here.
 

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The spin that is put on the programs. Solar Radiation Management. Is one of the titles given.

What IS known is there ARE huge gaping holes in our atmospheres being caused by HUGE amounts of electricity/jet stream causing BULGES -- thru "research" --
( http://www.consumerhealth.org/articles/display.cfm?ID=20011005223152 )
allowing trapped methane reserves to be released: *some theories here: http://ahrcanum.wordpress.com/2010/03/05/methane-bubbles-in-arctic-sea-methanegate-by-cern-haarp-w-earthquake-conspiracy/ and this place: http://www.terraforminginc.com/haarp-geoengineering-with-alchemy-arctic-methane-global-emergency-uk-gov-tells-climate-alarmists-to-chill-out/

burning Inupiat eskimos? or an embellishment? http://uforeview.tripod.com/haarp.html"Here. Look at the ultraviolet and radiation the came through right after they did it. They blew away the shield and all the radiation just came right down and zapped Earth. And look. It lasted for a long time!"

Eden asked if anyone had been hurt by these tests. The answer chilled him to his bones.

"Shit, yes. Here in Alaska there were Eskimos that were all fried and like whole herds of antelopes. But the holes also moved west and did their real harm in Siberia. But it isn't just the people it killed. It made these people and animals sick from the radiation that came from the Sun - the stuff that's usually blocked by the atmosphere - and so there have been still births and cancers and mutations. They are trying to keep it all real hushed. It's insane. And the worst part is that they are going to use it again!"
There are also reports of bizarre weather over Iraq during the U.S. invasion in 2004. It seems obvious that HAARP is being used to manipulate the weather all over the planet. The Washington Post reported that a growing number of physicists and others in the scientific community are becoming increasingly worried.

A "small group of American physicists, some of whom have aired complaints in scientific journals, fear HAARP may not simply be the simple research experiment that advocates describe, but possibly phase one of a secret U.S. military program that could be seeking ways to blow other countries' spacecraft out of the sky or disrupt communications over large portions of the planet."

Richard Williams, a physicist and consultant to the David Sarnoff laboratory in Princeton alleges HAARP constitutes "an irresponsible act of global vandalism." He and others fear a secret second stage where HAARP would "beam much more energy into the ionosphere. That could produce a severe disruption of the upper atmosphere at one location that may produce effects that spread rapidly around the Earth for years."

Documents acquired from the Office of Naval Research via the Freedom Of Information Act reveal a more ominous purpose for HAARP. According to these documents, the U.S. military believes the former Soviet Union has similar heaters with which they claim to have achieved higher levels of ionospheric reaction than possible so far in the "West".

Although smaller in size than the secret HAARP project, there are many other ground based transmitting heaters in operation around the world; Tromso, Norway and Arecibo, Puerto Rico among them.

Michel Chossudovsky, professor of economics at the University of Ottawa and Director of the Center for Research on Globalization, says that: "There are very clear statements by the U.S. Air Force to the effect that weather modification technology is available, HAARP is fully operational and could be used in actually military situations. It is clear that weather warfare does constitute an instrument of the Air Force, they even identify the scenarios of its use."

Can these heaters already be changing the weather, and have they somehow contributed to the recent climate-based catastrophes in the U.S? How many humans have contracted cancers and other sicknesses that might have remained dormant if not triggered by these transmissions?
Climate change. In the making? Have the problems been due to the research all along? Or while they are listening to submarines over the horizon? Maybe they should just stop. Or is it too late? Then, bring on the cloud making to cover up those damn holes, right?

No proof. Just theory. :)

Not sure WHY the atmosphere is so intriguing to the DeptofDefense - but it's been happening for awhile, now. Operation Starfish Prime back in the late 50's/60's : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starfish_Prime

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_altitude_nuclear_explosion (The purpose of the shots was to determine both feasibility of nuclear weapons as an anti-ballistic missile defense, as well as a means to defeat satellites and manned orbiting vehicles in space) big whoop. now what? At what cost?

What was the WORST CASE SCENARIO? Seems to be that all they are trying to discover is the complete and utter destruction of the planet and TOTAL death of it's inhabitants as quickly as possible -- what else was learned? Cure for cancer? lol. New non-fossil fuel energy? lol. End to ____? war? Think again: http://www.viewzone.com/emp.html "... An electromagnetic pulse (EMP) weapon is far more dangerous and potentially more lethal than a nuclear bomb. We known that the Russians have EMP weapons because of their published (an sometimes not) research and experiments with the technology. And now, of course, we can include China. But really, any nuclear capable nation with an atmospheric delivery system can do this." Please continue reading this article. It is simply - CHILLING.


http://www.jason-stevens.com/2010/07/the-forgotten-island-of-johnston-atoll/ A series of failed tests on Johnston Atoll and the surrounding “danger zone” waters were played down by the Joint Task Force who at one time directed the detonations from an old World War II Bunker on the island. These failures or operational glitches caught ground and air crew by surprise and resulted in long term radioactive poisoning. “It was an episode that our Government would just as soon forget,” said Michael Thomas, a senior technician who flew with the famous “Blue Sharks” patrol squadron based out of the Atoll during the tests.

“But the long term consequences for those of us who participated would be difficult, costly, and painful. It wasn’t until 1995 that the Secretary of Defense William Perry acquitted us of our promise of silence on the subject; we could finally discuss it and seek necessary medical care resultant from the experience.”
This stoic silence on the part of these brave soldiers in service of their country reveals the absolute secrecy surrounding these tests which was played out on this forgotten atoll in the mid-pacific.



(there's a mention in the article of: Meanwhile, China and India are not sitting idle — they are actively pursuing nuclear programs since they are offer cheap long-term energy.
Aren't these two countries largely blamed for much of the present day carbon emissions?
http://dailycaller.com/2012/12/04/rising-carbon-dioxide-emissions-in-developing-world-undercut-climate-deal/ exactly what is the definition of "developing world" -- nuclear programs?
Is all this just a protective measure against ______________? A little information would be nice.
Ahhhh, stoic silence. whatever. For our own good, I suppose.
 

Cookie

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The spin that is put on the programs. Solar Radiation Management. Is one of the titles given.

What IS known is there ARE huge gaping holes in our atmospheres being caused by HUGE amounts of electricity/jet stream causing BULGES -- thru "research" --
( http://www.consumerhealth.org/articles/display.cfm?ID=20011005223152 )
allowing trapped methane reserves to be released: *some theories here: http://ahrcanum.wordpress.com/2010/03/05/methane-bubbles-in-arctic-sea-methanegate-by-cern-haarp-w-earthquake-conspiracy/ and this place: http://www.terraforminginc.com/haarp-geoengineering-with-alchemy-arctic-methane-global-emergency-uk-gov-tells-climate-alarmists-to-chill-out/

burning Inupiat eskimos? or an embellishment? http://uforeview.tripod.com/haarp.html"Here. Look at the ultraviolet and radiation the came through right after they did it. They blew away the shield and all the radiation just came right down and zapped Earth. And look. It lasted for a long time!"

Eden asked if anyone had been hurt by these tests. The answer chilled him to his bones.

"Shit, yes. Here in Alaska there were Eskimos that were all fried and like whole herds of antelopes. But the holes also moved west and did their real harm in Siberia. But it isn't just the people it killed. It made these people and animals sick from the radiation that came from the Sun - the stuff that's usually blocked by the atmosphere - and so there have been still births and cancers and mutations. They are trying to keep it all real hushed. It's insane. And the worst part is that they are going to use it again!" Climate change. In the making? Have the problems been due to the research all along? Or while they are listening to submarines over the horizon? Maybe they should just stop. Or is it too late? Then, bring on the cloud making to cover up those damn holes, right?

No proof. Just theory. :)

Not sure WHY the atmosphere is so intriguing to the DeptofDefense - but it's been happening for awhile, now. Operation Starfish Prime back in the late 50's/60's : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starfish_Prime

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_altitude_nuclear_explosion (The purpose of the shots was to determine both feasibility of nuclear weapons as an anti-ballistic missile defense, as well as a means to defeat satellites and manned orbiting vehicles in space) big whoop. now what? At what cost?

What was the WORST CASE SCENARIO? Seems to be that all they are trying to discover is the complete and utter destruction of the planet and TOTAL death of it's inhabitants as quickly as possible -- what else was learned? Cure for cancer? lol. New non-fossil fuel energy? lol. End to ____? war? Think again: http://www.viewzone.com/emp.html "... An electromagnetic pulse (EMP) weapon is far more dangerous and potentially more lethal than a nuclear bomb. We known that the Russians have EMP weapons because of their published (an sometimes not) research and experiments with the technology. And now, of course, we can include China. But really, any nuclear capable nation with an atmospheric delivery system can do this." Please continue reading this article. It is simply - CHILLING.


http://www.jason-stevens.com/2010/07/the-forgotten-island-of-johnston-atoll/ A series of failed tests on Johnston Atoll and the surrounding “danger zone” waters were played down by the Joint Task Force who at one time directed the detonations from an old World War II Bunker on the island. These failures or operational glitches caught ground and air crew by surprise and resulted in long term radioactive poisoning. “It was an episode that our Government would just as soon forget,” said Michael Thomas, a senior technician who flew with the famous “Blue Sharks” patrol squadron based out of the Atoll during the tests.

“But the long term consequences for those of us who participated would be difficult, costly, and painful. It wasn’t until 1995 that the Secretary of Defense William Perry acquitted us of our promise of silence on the subject; we could finally discuss it and seek necessary medical care resultant from the experience.”
This stoic silence on the part of these brave soldiers in service of their country reveals the absolute secrecy surrounding these tests which was played out on this forgotten atoll in the mid-pacific.



(there's a mention in the article of: Meanwhile, China and India are not sitting idle — they are actively pursuing nuclear programs since they are offer cheap long-term energy.
Aren't these two countries largely blamed for much of the present day carbon emissions?
http://dailycaller.com/2012/12/04/rising-carbon-dioxide-emissions-in-developing-world-undercut-climate-deal/ exactly what is the definition of "developing world" -- nuclear programs?
Is all this just a protective measure against ______________? A little information would be nice.
Ahhhh, stoic silence. whatever. For our own good, I suppose.

ahhhhh I love the way you read around all over the place h2b!!
And what you've scooped up is quite interesting to read. It's really not hard to put the pieces of the puzzle together if you're not listening to what all the 'buffer' people say publically.

What interests me the most is in the first section of your post in regard to the holes in our atmosphere moving.
 

happy2bhere

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ahhhhh I love the way you read around all over the place h2b!!
And what you've scooped up is quite interesting to read. It's really not hard to put the pieces of the puzzle together if you're not listening to what all the 'buffer' people say publically.

What interests me the most is in the first section of your post in regard to the holes in our atmosphere moving.
Thank you Cookie!! :)

It's obvious something is going on. So maybe it would be a great time to let us in on some of the happenins? (which have been in place and functioning for quite some time.)

If it is more of a system that we have for protection, so be it. But all this secrecy? Not good.

It is just time to come clean. Fess up. If we are in a "weather war" I don't like knowing Russia sold some arms to Syria. . http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/02/13/288776/russia-to-continue-arms-export-to-syria/ (saw this today on the news)"...Damascus says certain Western states, especially the United States, and their regional allies are fueling the unrest. " oh crap

Will be watching for bad weather for Russia...I just wonder if they can really steer the stuff once it's unleashed. If something is in the "works" for Russia and it gets lobbed back to US, what can we expect? New Madrid Fault earthquake? Frankentornado? Killer blizzards? Do we have some type of way we can smack it away again? Does all this cause holes all over? Would give a whole new meaning to sunblock, lemme tell ya!!
Then, who gets it?


(Russia was concerned about this "research" in 2003: http://web.archive.org/web/20081210133351/http://english.pravda.ru/main/2003/01/15/42068.html)


Some info on the Array in Peru: http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/haarp/esp_haarp_41.htm

Here is a shot of the thing (it is not a HAARP - works differently): http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=lGVSgnRKaF8#! Starts at 4:29

Information going back to the 60s. Explains what - just NOT THE WHY!! damnit. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6g4RNW9Ro84

Part 3 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=_04ITHSSPDg&feature=endscreen "...an important factor in our weather and meteorology." @5:50
 

happy2bhere

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They are in my prayers.
The landslides contaminated two rivers supplying the capital's water plants.

Last week, even Chile's Atacama desert, one of the driest places in the world, suffered with heavy rain.

The bad weather brought down the equivalent of three months of rain in about seven hours

"There are no records of an event of this magnitude",

Nearly 9,000 people are said to have been affected and crops lost to the rain.
An event of this magnitude. Hmmm....Peru bans genetically modified foods for ten years minimum http://ascendingstarseed.wordpress.com/2012/12/17/peru-bans-genetically-modified-foods-for-ten-years-minimum/


just coincidence. weather making capabilities is just pure rumor and speculation...:roll:
 

Mad Scientest

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Sure it is just pure rumor and speculation. :) So don’t bother looking up patents on weather control, or chemtrails, or China’s claim to control the weather during their Olympics, or the satellite view of the unusual cloud formations in hurricane Sandy just before it made a nice 90 degree turn and headed inland. :wave:
 

Living Food

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****. Very annoying for me, but you guys might find it interesting.

1. I went looking for my online file on chemtrails + weather modification..couldn't find it. It seems to have been deleted.

2. I spend the past 1.5 hours accumulating information to prove chemtrails are real (using "credible" information) and putting it in a post...and my computer shut down.

So this is the only post you get :(

Dang NSA hackers. Get a real job.

I'll try and relocate the declassified documents I had proving not only that chemtrails are real (easy to do), but that they're for sinister purposes (very hard to find solid proof using "credible" sources).

Luckily there's a bautiful thing called "search history", so I'll fetch up a few of the sites I tried to put in my original post.
 

Living Food

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Chemtrail patent - also discusses previous patents for weather modification

More chemtrail patents

China's 'weather modification' works like magic

Kremlin chemicals induced storm to rain on anti-Putin parade, says MP

Geoengineering Moscow Mayor Promises No Snow This Winter

Can China Clean up Its Act in Time for the Olympics?

US Air Force paper on weather warfare, intimating the Us military could
“own the weather” by 2025, using electromagnetic radiation, nanotechnology, etc. But seeing as this is an unclassified paper, you know they're lying through their teeth. They have the ability to do everything outlined in that report, and more, today. Had it for decades.

Companies:


Evergreen Aviation - "MARKETS:

Firefighting
Oil Spill Containment
Weather Modification
Biochemical Decontamination"

^ Comes with this nice picture:




Weather Modification, Inc (subtle :))


 

Living Food

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I'm telling the complete truth here - I tried to edit my above message 8 times and add this to it, but each time it told me I wasn't logged in, and to login, refresh the page and try again. Well, I logged in, refreshed the page and tried again 7 different times...no luck. Luckily I finally managed to post this, but not edit the above. Could be a glitch in the forum. Maybe not. I will say that I've had a lot of fishy incidents like this before, computer refusing to log me on, shutting down spontaenously, etc.



North American Weather Consultations, Inc




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Unfortunately none of this is proof that toxic chemtrails are real; it's easy to prove weather modification is real, but much harder to provide evidence showing the real reasons for it (it's obvious to even a moderately intelligent person, but there don't seem to be that many around these days...but that's by design, too). I DID have the documents proving it, but for all I know they were taken down off the internet since then - I've had em for quite a while.
 

happy2bhere

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Sure it is just pure rumor and speculation. :) So don’t bother looking up patents on weather control, or chemtrails, or China’s claim to control the weather during their Olympics, or the satellite view of the unusual cloud formations in hurricane Sandy just before it made a nice 90 degree turn and headed inland. :wave:

OMG! Right? Like Malaysia DIDN'T order a cyclone to blow smog away!! There are some people on science forums that claim people like me are conspiracy "tards."
(But they talk about the possibility of HAARP using elf waves)

Am I a conspiracy tard?
 


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