Global warming or ice age, which is it??

[hopeful]

Everybody knows that there were over 100,000 cattle in S.Dakota killed by the snowstorm and there has been similar incidents in other countries too. There's so much talk about global warming, but can it be the other way around??

 

[kind2creatures]

Looks like ice age according to this fellow...https://iceagenow.info/

 

[Mad Scientest]

Two headlines from the Drudge Report sort of sums it up!

[FONT=ARIAL,VERDANA,HELVETICA]REPORT: '2013 ranks as one of the least extreme US weather years ever'...

AL GORE: 'Extreme' weather, 'increasing storms' and 'other extreme events'...[/FONT]

 

[newlife]

It is whatever makes the most $$.

 

[knightofalbion]

Global warming or ice age? Neither. It's climate change.
We're going into the unknown which is why science can't get a handle on it.
It very much depends where you live, but drier weather or wetter, more stormy weather and even sporadic heavy snowfall looks like it could be the norm for large areas of the planet.

On paper it might not sound like so much of a big deal, but when on the ground it manifests itself as drought or flood, its another matter. And of course weather fluctuation can have a massive impact on fauna and flora, and agricultural crop yields.

The present environmental status quo has built up over thousands of years, a pronounced shift either way is going to require quite an adaption in lifestyle for all species on earth, if they are going to survive.

 

[Mad Scientest]

The present environmental status quo has built up over thousands of years, a pronounced shift either way is going to require quite an adaption in lifestyle for all species on earth, if they are going to survive.

[FONT=&quot]This is apparently changing, but not due to anything man has done rather the solar system is moving into a new more positive region of the universe and nothing the PTB can do with their weather control techniques can stop that. And yes weather control is real some of the severe weather we have seen recently didn’t just happen. [/FONT]

 

[knightofalbion]

[FONT=&quot]This is apparently changing, but not due to anything man has done rather the solar system is moving into a new more positive region of the universe and nothing the PTB can do with their weather control techniques can stop that. And yes weather control is real some of the severe weather we have seen recently didn’t just happen. [/FONT]

Wheter climate change is part of a grand cosmic cycle, or partly or wholly the result of human activity is open to debate.
Either way, wisdom would suggest adversely adding to the situation may not be the most intelligent move we could make at this time...

And in any case, in a finite world, the universal introduction of renewable, clean and green energy systems can only be a good thing.

 

[jfh]

I'm just happy for anything that will regulate the cleaning of the atmosphere. Since this is nothing that we will do for ourselves, I'm even happy for government intervention. https://thewatchers.adorraeli.com/2013/10/18/outdoor-air-pollution-a-leading-cause-of-cancer/

 

[kind2creatures]

More thoughts on global warming...

Regarding the debate over climate change, Rivero argued that the phenomenon is actually a naturally occurring process which is simply being used as a scare tactic to generate money in the form of carbon taxes.

He dismissed the concept that human-generated carbon dioxide is the cause of global warming and contended that one volcano releases "more CO2 everyday than all the cars in America."

He also noted that water vapor and methane are far more harmful greenhouse agents, but they are rarely blamed for global warming because they cannot be directly linked to human activity like CO2 production and, thus, cannot be wielded to tax the population.

Ultimately, Rivero pointed to the hypocrisy of the government pushing for a carbon tax while simultaneously ignoring the dangerous environmental effects of fracking.

https://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHART...limategate.php

 

[jfh]

A large part of acceptance is that it is pretty localized. We measure the hurricane season for the USA or the wildfires, drought, flooding. We tend to ignore the huge Pacific Ocean storms that attack Asia, or the wildfires in Australia. Out of sight is out of mind. Have you been keeping up with the devastating smog in China?

Also in my mind, volcanoes are the worse culprit. It amazes me how many volcanoes occur all the time. https://thewatchers.adorraeli.com/category/volcanoes/

 

[jfh]

And speaking of such climate change, I hope our forum friends in the UK are surviving this unusual giant October storm.

 

[knightofalbion]

Still here! Nowhere near as bad as the hurricane of 1987 thank goodness, but still quite a lot of damage

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-24701419

 

[ozzie]

The extreme weather we are having here in Australia seems to be cyclic,according to history books we have had really bad fires and floods and drought back in the 1800s, I think its just that with the population growth and the amount of cattle we now have it seems worse because it is affecting people's lives more now due to the cattle and wild ferral animals eating out the vegetation which causes drought, more people are building homes in bushfire prone areas of bushland as well which doesn't help.