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COVID Vaccine or not?

kind2creatures

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Interesting and thanks for the reply's. I haven't had the "flu" in years and years but this year I had something that I would have called the flu, I ached for a few days, bad congestion, no energy (that is still not back to where it was prior to) lost most of my sense of smell and taste, and felt bad for 4 to 5 weeks, seemed to get better to a degree for about 7 to 10 days and got sick again for about a week then got better taking some good doses of collodial silver for a few weeks and I think I got over it, back to work and all. I have not been tested for COVID but it wouldn't surprise me if I had it so I will not get the vaccine as maybe I have the antibodies naturally now but being over 60 I'm no spring chicken.
Sorry you were so sick, hope you fully recovered @cyber-junkie. They say there will be tests available in the drug stores to test at home and get results on your own. Would be nice if there was an antibody test you could take on your own, I'd buy one right now. I haven't been sick really, but I do have some seasonal allergies (pollen, ragweed, etc.) and with the mild dry weather these days, seem like those types of allergies are spreading throughout winter too.
 

happy2bhere

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I will wait to see how many adverse events and deaths hsppen. And maybe just hide. What difference will it make? Not a cure. Prevention is a toss. Maybe it will, maybe no. Lessens symptoms? Is that a good idea with a killer? Dont fever, cough, malaisetell you to get tested before it is too late? Such confusion. Now it is mutating. Im going the d3.k2, quercetin, 6 grams vit c, ivermectin route and contine with my health regimen. I dont trust a product that has NO legal responsibility for injury or death. No. They can make a safer product. They dont have to. I dont need the adjuvants possibly settling in my brain, to maybe lessen symptoms? Must still mask and distance
Who takes all the risk?
 

Hashirama3194

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I am having this allergy since past two three years of sneezing and sometimes running nose also, whenever I wake up after taking a nape. I am not sure about getting vaccinated.
 

kind2creatures

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I took the 2 shot Moderna vaccine in April, and my husband had the Johnson and Johnson shot. I lost a family member who died from Covid19.

I just heard that 99.5% of those who are currently hospitalized from the virus, were people who are un-vaccinated. The United States would be in much better shape right now with the threat of variants, if everyone just got the vaccine when available.
 
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jfh

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I took the 2 shot Moderna vaccine in April, and my husband had the Johnson and Johnson shot. I lost a family member who died from Covid19.
I'm so glad you are fully vaccinated. Me too at end of March. Beware that you both can still get Covid19. But so far, reports still say you would not be sick enough to go to the hospital or die. It's so unbelievable that there is so much disinformation spreading. I don't understand the purpose of this disinformation. I have neighbors who still refuse to get the shot. They are elderly and keep Fox News on in the background all time.

We need children to have the same advantage. I normally don't get the annual flu shot and have never had the flu since 1963 (year of Kennedy assasination} when I got the flu right after the shot. I've been such a recluse all my life. I have worked with computers since 1968 and was not around so many people. I did have the polio vaccine and smallpox. Recently, I've had the pneumonia vaccine. So, I'm not against vaccines. I know they work.
 

kind2creatures

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I'm so glad you are fully vaccinated. Me too at end of March. Beware that you both can still get Covid19. But so far, reports still say you would not be sick enough to go to the hospital or die. It's so unbelievable that there is so much disinformation spreading. I don't understand the purpose of this disinformation. I have neighbors who still refuse to get the shot. They are elderly and keep Fox News on in the background all time.

We need children to have the same advantage. I normally don't get the annual flu shot and have never had the flu since 1963 (year of Kennedy assasination} when I got the flu right after the shot. I've been such a recluse all my life. I have worked with computers since 1968 and was not around so many people. I did have the polio vaccine and smallpox. Recently, I've had the pneumonia vaccine. So, I'm not against vaccines. I know they work.
Yes, we both knew before we were vaccinated that it was not a guarantee not to get COVID 19, but if we did, it would not be deadly or as serious. I know people who religiously get their annual flu shots, and complain every few years that they got the flu that year. I personally haven't taken the flu shot in decades, and haven't had the flu. Last time I had the flu, I was still taking the shots. I never had severe sickness from the flu.

Some on Fox news are starting to change their tune about the vaccine, now encouraging their viewers to get it. Too little, too late, in my opinion. I don't do facebook or twitter, but I hear a lot of disinformation and lies about the coronavirus are spread there. It's an eye opener how many people can be so misinformed and gullible, not to make a sensible decision by themselves. The benefits outweigh the risks for sure.
 
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larryz

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I have personally known two otherwise healthy friends in their early 60s who have been severely injured after getting a Covid vaccine. One died, the other triple bypass surgery. Both completely healthy and stricken out of nowhere to the shock of many. More than a coincidence.

The vaccines have been documented to be questionably safe. Many injured and many deaths. According to CDC statistics. Importnat to note that many injuries are historically not reported, so the numbers are most definitely even higher. Keeping any conspiracies out of the discussion, there is serious and justifiable concerns about these experimental vaccines.
 

kind2creatures

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Hi everyone
my name is johns, I really want to know which covid vaccine is less harmfull to our body.
I don't think any of the vaccines is more harmful to our bodies than the COVID-19 virus is. I've had the Moderna, my husband had the Johnson and Johnson we also have friends who took the Pfizer vaccine. I don't know of anyone who was harmed by their vaccinations.
 

Arrow

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OMG! I hope you all have evolved in your thinking since all this nonsense was posted!
 

Arrow

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Hi everyone
my name is johns, I really want to know which covid vaccine is less harmfull to our body.
They are all incredibly dangerous.. why would anyone want spike proteins to be manufactured in every organ of their body? WHERE ARE THE LONG TERM STUDIES?

This is not a vaccine as it's generally understood.. this is a manufactured synthetic package of genetic information designed to override your own cells programing to put you autoimmune system into a hyper vigilant state, and with each booster it will get worse.. The risk for ADE is significant according to some of the worlds leading virologists.

Now all those vaccinated in Iceland, Singapore and Israel are getting very sick... well not all of them.. but all of the people in their hospitals right now have had the jabs and some are dying. These vaccines do not work! Sick enough to be in a hospital...the vaccine causes the delta variant... AND THE JABBED ARE SPREADING IT, NOT THE UNVACCINATED and we are just beginning to see the damages this drug does.

I suggest that if you have taken a jab that you don't repeat it.. there are very good treatments right now. Prepare and get what you need ahead of time. Know who your doctor would be and make sure he/she is up to date on the leading therapies. Frontline doctors ia a go to source.

If you have had the jab there may be ways to detox it.. but most importantly, do not get another one!
 

Rchael

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I don't think any of the vaccines is more harmful to our bodies than the COVID-19 virus is. I've had the Moderna, my husband had the Johnson and Johnson we also have friends who took the Pfizer vaccine. I don't know of anyone who was harmed by their vaccinations.
True. I've had Pfizer too and nothing bad happened since then. Each person's immune system differs, so it really depends on how your body would react to any of the vaccines.
 

Arrow

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You might want to look into graphene oxide. It's in all the jabs and its what is making some people magnetic at the site of injection, and which over time spreads through the body.
 

Arrow

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I have personally known two otherwise healthy friends in their early 60s who have been severely injured after getting a Covid vaccine. One died, the other triple bypass surgery. Both completely healthy and stricken out of nowhere to the shock of many. More than a coincidence.

The vaccines have been documented to be questionably safe. Many injured and many deaths. According to CDC statistics. Importnat to note that many injuries are historically not reported, so the numbers are most definitely even higher. Keeping any conspiracies out of the discussion, there is serious and justifiable concerns about these experimental vaccines.
Absolutely! Nuremburg trials are being planned for crimes against humanity.. Aside for immediate death or crippling damages for some people, ADE is looming on the horizon according to some of the world's leading virologists, researchers and vaccine specialists.

Dr Robert Malone, the developer of the mRNA technology has been publicly speaking and warning the people not to do it.. now this is the guy who spent most of his life researching and developing this mRNA technology.. He's the mRNA king pin and he says don't do it.

I strongly suggest that if you have had the jab that you never get another one and work to detox.
 

Arrow

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I took the 2 shot Moderna vaccine in April, and my husband had the Johnson and Johnson shot. I lost a family member who died from Covid19.

I just heard that 99.5% of those who are currently hospitalized from the virus, were people who are un-vaccinated. The United States would be in much better shape right now with the threat of variants, if everyone just got the vaccine when available.
In Israel their hospitals are filled with people who have all been double jabbed. Sick enough to be in the hospital and some are dying. They have higher vaccine rates than any other nation.

As I scan through this group I can see that no one is really researching or investigating what is going on either health wise or politically regarding this assault upon humanity


https://www.bitchute.com/video/Mg8MV8oKfFqe/
 

jfh

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Dr Robert Malone, the developer of the mRNA technology has been publicly speaking and warning the people not to do it.. now this is the guy who spent most of his life researching and developing this mRNA technology.. He's the mRNA king pin and he says don't do it.
Malone says he deserves credit for more than just sparking hope. He dropped out of graduate school in 1988, just short of his Ph.D., and went to work at a pharmaceutical company called Vical. Now he claims that both the Salk Institute and Vical profited from his work and essentially prevented him from further pursuing his research. (A Salk Institute spokesperson said that nothing in the institute’s records substantiates Malone’s allegations. The biotech company into which Vical was merged, Brickell, did not respond to requests for comment.) To say that Malone remains bitter over this perceived mistreatment doesn’t do justice to his sense of aggrievement. He calls what happened to him “intellectual rape.”

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/jun/16/youtube-videos/no-sign-covid-19-vaccines-spike-protein-toxic-or-c/
 

Arrow

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Malone says he deserves credit for more than just sparking hope. He dropped out of graduate school in 1988, just short of his Ph.D., and went to work at a pharmaceutical company called Vical. Now he claims that both the Salk Institute and Vical profited from his work and essentially prevented him from further pursuing his research. (A Salk Institute spokesperson said that nothing in the institute’s records substantiates Malone’s allegations. The biotech company into which Vical was merged, Brickell, did not respond to requests for comment.) To say that Malone remains bitter over this perceived mistreatment doesn’t do justice to his sense of aggrievement. He calls what happened to him “intellectual rape.”

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/jun/16/youtube-videos/no-sign-covid-19-vaccines-spike-protein-toxic-or-c/
This is pure propaganda from a liberal rag. ... Politico.. LOL LOL LOL Dr Malone is an MD. You believe fact checkers jfh? you know Soros controls fact checkers through NGO.


Dr. Malone MD – The King Pin!



Who is Dr Robert Malone? He is the inventor of the mRNA synthetic strand that is in the vaccines that tells your body cells to override its current DNA program to produce Spike Proteins all over the body, including the heart, lungs, ovaries, brain.

He received his medical training at Northwestern University (MD) and Harvard University (Clinical Research Post Graduate) medical school, and in Pathology at UC Davis.


Dr Malone discusses the vaccine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CA8qMb33Zyo


Dr. Malone https://ugetube.com/watch/8PRciicQuVQc61Y

Here is a list of published papers which Malone did, all 84 published works. I is one of the most knowledgeable men on the planet about virus and mRNA. https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=Jf1bApYAAAAJ&hl=en


Dr Malone’s professional references:


https://www.rwmalonemd.com

What Malone is doing now: https://static1.squarespace.com/static/550b0ac4e4b0c16cdea1b084/t/60dcd375a4d0436a545166fc/1625084789935/RWM+CV+29+June+2021+.pdf
 

Arrow

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I took the 2 shot Moderna vaccine in April, and my husband had the Johnson and Johnson shot. I lost a family member who died from Covid19.

I just heard that 99.5% of those who are currently hospitalized from the virus, were people who are un-vaccinated. The United States would be in much better shape right now with the threat of variants, if everyone just got the vaccine when available.
Right now in Israel, with the highest vaccination rate of all nations, the hospitals are exploding with covid.. 95% of the patients have been double jabbed. The vaccines do not work... and now they're talking of pushing a 3rd round... how much graphene oxide can a body take? This is genocide.
 

cyber-junkie

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Thanks Arrow for the links, this is getting into the bone marrow and ovaries, is this normal for a vaccine?
 

pinballdoctor

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Getting the shot is a personal choice and should be respected either way. I have only this to say: If you are infected with Covid, AND your uric acid level is high (above 5.5), you are more likely to be hospitalized, put on a ventilator, be transferred to the ICU, and more likely to die from the virus according to Doctor David Perlmutter.
 


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