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Scorpio, I pulled this famous peanut butter silk pie recipe off the lo-carb forum, and would like to make it for a friend of mine who will be 60 tomorrow, and is a diabetic.... Im not liking the idea of using splenda... I am assuming that I can use your chocolate recipe from that other place, for the chocolate layer (yes?) but how do I get rid of the splenda and replace it with stevia???

Does anyone else have a pie or cake recipe that is suitable for diabetics????


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nut crust

What I think is the best nut crust has been lately from my own goofing around in the kitchen. Why I always second guess myself is beyond me. Did you know that a large egg has about 2 tablespoons egg whites?

I usually use

1 1/2 cups nuts ground fine(I use walnuts cause they are cheaper than almonds)
1 tablespoon egg white
3 tablespoons butter melted

baked 10 minutes at 350 if I am not making a cheesecake

This makes a great crust that doesn't fall apart. The whole egg white makes the crust too tough.


nut crust slightly baked (I used a reg. pie crust b/c I had one left in the freezer)

CHocolate Layer
4 sugar free chocolate bars ( (I used 3/4 cup Eat Well, Be well sf chips)
5 tbls cream
1/4 teaspoon instant coffee crystals ( I used a full tbls)

Peanut Butter Silk Layer
1 pkg cream cheese
1 cup splenda ( I used 1/2 cup splenda, 1/2 cup erythrytol)
1 cup peanut butter (creamy)
1 tbls butter melted
1 tsp vanilla extract
1 cup cream

Melt the chocolate, cream and coffee crystals in a double broiler, spread this mixture in bottoom of crust.

Whip 1 cup heavy cream until stiff.

In separate bowl, mix softened cream cheese, splenda, peanut butter, butter and vanilla until creamy.

Then beat whip cream into peanut butter mixture one-third at a time on lowest speed. Spread peanut butter filling gently over the chocolate layer and chill.

Eat and enjoy!!!!!
Note to Administration... I know there is probably a better place for this to be... but I didnt see a recipe thread (was I blind???) and I need help today... so if we can keep this up here in general topics until after Scorpio see it, I would greatly appreciate it!!
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Old 11-11-2007, 10:42 AM
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Here's a site with many useful conversions: https://www.karenskitchen.com/a/ref_convert.htm
here is the complete sweetener conversions listed on the site:

Sweetener Equivalents for 1/2 Cup of Sugar

Agave Nectar: 3/8 cup (reduce other liquids by 1/3)
Barley Malt: 1 1/2 cup
Brown Sugar 1/2 cup
Corn Sweetener 1/2 cup
Date Sugar: 1 cup
Fruit Juice Concentrate: equal to sugar (reduce other liquids by 1/3)
Granular Fruit Sweeteners: equal to sugar
Honey: 1/3 cup (reduce other liquids by 1/3)
Maltose (from sprouted grains): 1 1/4 cup
Maple Syrup: equal to sugar (reduce other liquids by 1/3)
Molasses: 1/3 cup
Raw or Organic Sugar: 1/2 cup
Rice Syrup: 1 1/4 cup
Sorghum Syrup: 1/3 cup
Splenda: 1/2 cup
Stevia Powder (SweetLeaf Brand) 1 Tbsp.
Stevia Liquid (Sunnydew or Sweetleaf Brands) 1/2 tsp.
Sucanat: equal to sugar
Turbinado: 1/2 cup
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you know something, justme?

I think I would stick to the splenda for this first endeavor. And the reason I say that is that some stevia products have a bit of a bitter aftertaste - also, I find that for the liquid stevia (which is what I use), it is better to wait until what you are mixing it in cools a bit. same with adding vanilla extract. You add the cold liquid with some water to a cold liquid with some oil, you will have the water bubble and start to spatter.

I like stevia. but when I put up a recipe, I say sweetener of your choice, because some people do not like the taste of stevia. or they seem to feel it has more of an aftertaste? I know my son seems to taste anything bitter in anything immediately, and it turns him off. Where it doesn't bother me at all.

so.. maybe this first time.. use splenda for this special gentleman. or make something smaller on the side with stevia? I would definitely introduce him to it - especially if he is diabetic. but.. maybe make something small on the side, and tell him that you want him to try this other herbal sweetener. or in his coffee/tea? or a shake? and tell him it that it is healthier and it is the main sweetener used in Japan.

or.. you could go ahead and put it in and not say anything until later.

is this a one time thing? or is this someone you hope to be having more meals with in the future?
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and here are some sites on cooking with stevia:

https://www.cookingwithstevia.com/

https://www.steviva.com/recipes/

https://www.steviainfo.com/?page=recipes

and.. a recipe for peanut butter pie:
https://www.healthylifestylepublishin...416106P411.pdf
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Thanks Scorpio... greatly appreciate the help....
This is just a one time thing... gentleman from church.... lost his wife almost a year ago, so this is his first birthday without her....just trying to ease the heart a bit!!!


Chienergy, thanks for those conversions, they will help alot...

I dont do much baking anymore, because I dont have the willpower to just say no... so much easier to just not have it here... but everyonce in a while a treat would be nice.
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Old 11-11-2007, 12:28 PM
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Thanks Scorpio... greatly appreciate the help....
This is just a one time thing... gentleman from church.... lost his wife almost a year ago, so this is his first birthday without her....just trying to ease the heart a bit!!!
that's really a nice thing to do. I bet he really appreciates it.

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Chienergy, thanks for those conversions, they will help alot...

I dont do much baking anymore, because I dont have the willpower to just say no... so much easier to just not have it here... but everyonce in a while a treat would be nice.
I know what you mean.

and i have a recent item I bought.. that I probably won't buy again. because it called and called to me. crystallized ginger. I bought some for a dish.. and had some leftover. Oh my.. so good. something about the warmth of the ginger and the sweetness combined.

I am going to have to learn how to dry fruit because there are a few dishes that I like that use some. And a little goes a long way in a dish, but really adds a lot.

however.. all the dried fruit is made with added cornsyrup, or sugar, or other not so good sweeteners. you would think the natural fruit sugar would enough, but I guess not. I wonder if you were to add a drop of stevia to each fruit before drying if that would make it sweet enough?

I will have to come up with some better way to make that sweetened ginger... just too good. i noticed the other day, they have ginger candy in the oriental grocery store I go to (also made with not so hot ingredients). Now I can see why.
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I wonder if the concept of soaking the fruit in salt water like you do with nuts would make the fruit sweeter
Neal had mentioned the idea of soaking nuts in salt water and said that they turned out sweeter... Well its not that I didnt believe him or anything, but decided I had to try for myself... Was really surprised to taste the sweetness of the pecans after they soaked overnight.... I wonder if the same would happen with your ginger....
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hmmm... well, I will have to try it. I love ginger in cooking.. just didn't realize how good it was "crystalized".

but I will definitely have to try the soaking with pecans. I love pecans. sometimes I will take cottage cheese, mix it with some cinnamon, stevia, and sometimes a little vanilla extract, and add pecans to it. It is good for a quick snack.
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Scopiotiger,
Here's some information about ginger I thought you may find interesting...I love to share what may help someone.
Ginger Root
Ginger Root is known as the universal medicine in Ayurveda. It aids digestion and, and is one of the best herbs for nausea. It relieves spasms and menstrual cramps, and promotes menstruation. Ginger helps to regulate blood sugar both by stimulating pancreas cells and by lowering lipids (cholesterol, triglycerides) in the blood. Historically, it was one of the most respected herbs for joint health, especially for aging joints. It has relatively high calcium and iron content. Ginger increases peripheral circulation, so is used clinically for cold hands and feet. Being diaphoretic, it treats some symptoms by promoting sweating.
Tangy ginger is just the thing to add a little zip to your palate – and to your health. Ginger root (Zingiber officinale), is the tuberous root of a tropical plant. The fresh ginger root is tan and knobby, with a thick skin. Good quality pieces are firm and plump, with an unwrinkled, smooth skin. No one quite knows how old ginger is. It's been cultivated so long that it has never actually been found growing in the wild. It is presumed to have originated in tropical India, but it is also an ancient ingredient of Chinese food and medicine.
It became popular in Europe when it was one of the more important spices to open the spice trade routes to Asia. In fact, one of ginger's most popular uses started in Europe, when in 19th century English pubs a jar of ginger was kept on the counter so the client�le could add it to their drinks. Ginger ale was born.
Ginger is a first aid kit on a plate. First, it is a time-tested remedy for stomach upset. It is used by nearly every culture in the world as a treatment for mild indigestion, fullness and gas. Many prepare a tasty tea and drink it after a large meal to assist digestion and ease stomach discomfort. Ginger's effect on motion sickness and nausea have been thoroughly proven, so it is not surprising that European practitioners use ginger in tea for indigestion, which European regulatory authorities support.
The reason it works so well for digestion is because it reduces spasm, absorbs and neutralizes toxins in the gastrointestinal tract and increases the secretion of digestive juices, including bile and saliva. Ginger has properties that soothe the gut and aid digestion by increasing peristalsis (moving food through the intestinal tract). A new study from India demonstrated that ginger speeds up the time it takes the stomach to empty relieving abdominal discomfort and bloating.
Ginger is also some pretty serious medicine. In fact, Ayurveda calls this herb "the universal medicine."
Among its many uses, ginger helps in the treatment of diabetes by lowering blood sugar, and treats closely related cardiovascular conditions. Ginger lowers blood fats, including triglycerides, reduces oxidation of LDL and prevents arterial plaque. Research published in 2002 found that a higher dose of ginger (500 mg/kg, about an ounce for an average adult), produced a significant lowering of blood cholesterol.
In Asian herbalism, ginger is extensively used for arthritis, especially osteoarthritis. Ginger is especially appropriate for cold, non-lubricated joints. There is some preliminary scientific information on ginger for this purpose. Traditional herbalists use it for promoting menstruation and relieving menstrual cramps. Ginger increases peripheral circulation, so it is used clinically for cold hands and feet. Being diaphoretic, it treats cold and flu.
In clinical trials of modern practitioners, ginger works well for carpal tunnel wrist pain. It can be taken internally in therapeutic doses, or applied externally to the troubled spot. Practitioners found that when thin lengthwise slices of the fresh root were applied as flat strips to the wrist and then covered with a bandage and left overnight, there was significant relief. Norma Pasekoff Weinberg, in Natural and Herbal Remedies for Carpal Tunnel Syndrome (Storey Books, Pownal Vermont, 2000), recommends a compress be made from fresh ginger that has been cooked and grated. You can also find other variations for external use, such as ointments.
Although, there is as yet little science behind it, Asian medicine uses ginger for migraines. Clinical herbalists say that ginger is absolutely the best medicine for treating a migraine at the time that it develops and itIs one of the few things that will work. They recommend stirring two tablespoons of ginger powder into water and drinking it at the onset of visual disturbances in the "aura" before the pain starts. Usually, that will knock it out cold. The migraine may try to restart in about four hours, in which case you must have another drink.
A study recently reported in Obstetrics and Gynecology looked at seventy pregnant women with morning sickness. After using just 1 gram of dry ginger per day, for only four days, 87.5% of the ginger-takers reported improvement, compared with 28% who took a placebo. A 2002 study found that women taking a ginger syrup found great relief from nausea. Of the women in the ginger group, 67% who had been vomiting daily stopped vomiting within 6 days, compared to only 20% who took a placebo.
European authorities at one time suggested that ginger be avoided during pregnancy on theoretical grounds, but ginger toxicity has yet been reported in humans. Even though many modern herb books mention this theoretical concern, the science behind it is dated and not very definitive. American herbal safety authorities have repeatedly concluded that this not an issue, for practical purposes. Considering that it has been used for millennia by pregnant women, it is probably acceptable in normal doses.
Ginger is one of the most popular spices throughout the world. Ginger is a multipurpose spice, equally scrumptious in both sweet and savory dishes. This spice has a somewhat biting and hot note, with a rich, sweet, warm, and woody aroma. Use ginger fresh, as dried powder or "crystallized" with sugar. Use it in gingerbread, ginger ale, gingersnaps, and Indian or Chinese dishes. Try ginger chunks in a stir fry, or mixed in honey or with a little molasses as a glaze, perhaps for carrots. Even add fresh juice to a fresh juice mix, perhaps apple, to add some snap. In my home, my family likes to dice peeled fresh ginger root, saute it until crunchy, and use the crispy bits as a condiment. Prepared this way, ginger will last about a week in the refrigerator.
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Cornbread-and-Beef Skillet Pie

Serves: 4

Prep time: 10 minutes

Cook time: 25-30 minutes

1/2 cup yellow cornmeal

1/2 cup plus 2 tablespoons all-purpose flour (spooned and leveled)

1 teaspoon baking soda

Coarse salt and ground pepper

1 tablespoon olive oil

2 red bell peppers (ribs and seeds removed), thinly sliced

1 medium red onion, chopped

1 package (10 ounces) white mushrooms, trimmed and thinly sliced

1 1/2 pounds ground sirloin

1/4 cup tomato paste

3/4 cup reduced-fat sour cream

1 large egg, lightly beaten

Preheat oven to 425 degrees. In a small bowl, whisk together cornmeal, 1/2 cup flour, baking soda and 1/2 teaspoon salt; set aside.

In a large ovenproof skillet, heat oil over medium-high. Add peppers, onion and mushrooms; season with salt and pepper. Cook until tender, 6 to 8 minutes, tossing occasionally.

Raise heat to high; add beef and tomato paste. Cook, stirring, until meat is no longer pink, 3 to 5 minutes. Stir in remaining 2 tablespoons flour and 2/3 cup water; season with salt and pepper.

Make cornmeal batter: Add sour cream and egg to reserved cornmeal mixture; stir just until moistened.

Drop tablespoons of batter over beef mixture in skillet, 1 inch apart. Bake until biscuits are golden brown and a toothpick inserted in center comes out clean, 15 to 20 minutes.

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I've given ginger (in capsules) to my son for motion sickness when he was little. and I made ginger tea for my mother-in-law when she was nauseated from chemo. She said it really helped.

chopping it up and pan frying it until it is crispy ... yes, that is delicious. but, I've never thought of using it as a condiment for other dishes.. great idea.

what I do is buy fresh ginger, then peel it, chop it up, put it in a plastic bag, and freeze it. then when I need some for cooking, I take the plastic ziploc out, give it a whack, and pour out some chopped ginger for whatever I'm cooking. that way, I always have some.

ginger.. great stuff. ginger and garlic.. that makes anything taste good (except maybe chocolate ).
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