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Old 02-10-2011, 12:38 AM
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So what if your like me and you have the opposite problem of most people.. my blood pressure tends to run on the low side, maybe too low at times.. But it seems everytime I research some good food or herb I wanna take it says its lowers BP as if it were a good thing.. which it probably isnt for me..

anyway around this? I wonder why my BP runs a bit low.. im kinda skinny by nature and potentially have some mild thyroid issues too..

anyone know good foods/herbs that safely raise BP a bit? I think ginseng does..

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Epsom Salts bath or you could try Dead Sea Salts Magnesium chloride. (its usually cheaper) Please try taking your BP before and after and repeat several times to see if it makes a difference.

If you could make this your only intervention for a while we would then hopefully have some useful information. There are plenty of people suggesting magnesium baths but too few actual people who can confidently say they have measurable results of the benefits or the lack of response. It's as important to know it doesn't have an effect as the advice that it MAY help.
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[Off topic]Texas was using magnesium chloride on the roads during our freezing weather and frosty roads.

I have a not so dissimilar problem moxsum. There are a number of herbs that will lower blood sugar, and I'm hypoglycemic. Mostly though, one has to take a lot of them to have any effect. Unfortunately, I have the opposite problem with blood pressure than you. I'm pretty sure it has to do with salt. I'm addicted. Potassium helps, so I know it is salt hypertension.

So moxum, you seem to have a lot of problems that, I think, would be improved if you work to improve the strength of your adrenals. Here I go again. By helping your adrenals, you will also help your thyroid as well as other glands. The adrenals are the Master glands.

First, for the low blood pressure, check out our threads on beetroot. Very important. Also research licorice root. In large amounts, licorice containing glycyrrhizin can cause high blood pressure, salt and water retention, and low potassium levels, which could lead to heart problems. DGL products are thought to cause fewer side effects. Notice that I say, "In large amounts." So a tablespoon (powder) per day would be very beneficial to you. Purchase organic power from mountainroseherbs.com

Now, Ashwagandha. It can lower high blood pressure, but also normalizes it. Meaning that it can correct the causes for low or high blood pressure. And since it is an adaptogen, it will definitely help the adrenals which will help the thyroid.

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Ashwagandha, an adaptogenic herb is most excellent known as a health tonic and restorative gent. It is useful in situation of general debility, exhaustion, stress induced fatigue and insomnia. Ashwagandha decreases anxiety and stress levels, raises vitality and vigor. It improves equally physical and mental presentation.


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Numerous herbs will provoke hypertension, if that is what you are looking for. St. John's Wort, capsicum, parsley, bayberry, ginseng, and pau d'arco.
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[Off topic]Texas was using magnesium chloride on the roads during our freezing weather and frosty roads.
I get mine from an agricultural merchants that supplies racing stables where it is added to drinking water of tense horses to calm them. With the cost of racing horses being what it is I doubt they would risk supplying anything that would contain toxic substances. That said I don't drink the stuff I just throw a jugful in the bathwater and wallow for 20mins. I'll try to check my BP before and after as well to see if it makes a difference.
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I just thought it was funny that it would be used as a de-icer. You're right about race horses. They would do absolutely nothing that would harm them, and everything that would help them. That's comforting. Thanks Ted.

One more thing about the adrenals. Low adrenal function is one of the many causes of hypothyroidism. Other symptoms are allergies, asthma, autoimmune disorders, chronically low blood pressure or orthostatic hypotension (https://www.mayoclinic.com/health/ort...ension/DS00997), and chronic hypoglycemia (like me).
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Hey guys thanks for the suggestions.. I forgot about licorice.. definitely a good choice, I actually drink tea w/ licorice in it from time to time, but maybe I should supplement more.. the powder would be useful to put into my shakes!

Only downside is ive read licorice can lower testesterone and in general I try and stay away from herbs/foods that do that .. unfortunately a lot of good ones do!

Yea.. I want to strengthen my adrenals.. all my organs erally.. im thinking of starting to take Maca which I here is good for the adrenals. The thing is, I thought I had "adrenal" fatigue for a long time, but my tests came back almost completely normal.. my cortisol levels were right in the middle.. so.. ? Either way im sure they could benefit from being strengthened.

My mild health issues are: Slighlty low body temp., low BP, (not too bad), mild thryoid issues (according to ND), digestive issues (I eat fine, but poo comes out funny), mild libido issues, some pelvic floor problems..

Yea not too bad now that I think of it.. I had ice cold hands and feet any time I was under even mild stress, for yeaars.. this somehow seems to have improved over the past year, but its still there a bit not too bad anymore though..
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Hey guys thanks for the suggestions.. I forgot about licorice.. definitely a good choice, I actually drink tea w/ licorice in it from time to time, but maybe I should supplement more.. the powder would be useful to put into my shakes!

Only downside is ive read licorice can lower testesterone and in general I try and stay away from herbs/foods that do that .. unfortunately a lot of good ones do!

Yea.. I want to strengthen my adrenals.. all my organs erally.. im thinking of starting to take Maca which I here is good for the adrenals. The thing is, I thought I had "adrenal" fatigue for a long time, but my tests came back almost completely normal.. my cortisol levels were right in the middle.. so.. ? Either way im sure they could benefit from being strengthened.

My mild health issues are: Slighlty low body temp., low BP, (not too bad), mild thryoid issues (according to ND), digestive issues (I eat fine, but poo comes out funny), mild libido issues, some pelvic floor problems..

Yea not too bad now that I think of it.. I had ice cold hands and feet any time I was under even mild stress, for yeaars.. this somehow seems to have improved over the past year, but its still there a bit not too bad anymore though..

Try a supplement you can get a oriental grocery stores called shou su chih. It is a liquid and should cost no more than 5 bucks. Take one shot (1 oz) a day for 2 weeks and see how you feel.
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Only downside is ive read licorice can lower testesterone and in general I try and stay away from herbs/foods that do that .. unfortunately a lot of good ones do!

The thing is, I thought I had "adrenal" fatigue for a long time, but my tests came back almost completely normal.. my cortisol levels were right in the middle.
There are a lot of negative reports on licorice. What they don't tell you is the amount of licorice required to induce those problems, nor the number of months required. A tablespoon of licorice root daily, and about a month to help balance the adrenals. You can go more than a month, but it should not be necessary to see if it improves your blood pressure.

Do you really trust the adrenal tests? Hormones are in a constant state of fluctuation. Any such test only give you a small window of what is going on. The adrenals are always producing (or not) epinephrine and cortisol and several others depending upon your needs at the time (minutes, hours, ...)

Instead of clinical tests, diagnose yourself the way the holistic, homeopathic, and herbologist practitioners would do it. Be aware of your symptoms. Your symptoms will tell you. Some of your symptoms may say that you have a weakened thyroid, but this can simply lead to dysfunctional or simply weak adrenals.

It is easy to increase your vitamin C and B5 (whole complex is better), which are the most nutritious supplements for the adrenals. And increase the adaptogenic (balancing) herbs.
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I used to have low blood pressure for years - when young.
Then when into my late 40's early 50's it became normal - 115/170.
Now, as I've gotten to old age, it's more often 138 to 140/180.
When I become ancient if I'm still alive, I'll let you know!

BTW, when I had low BP I used to get dizzy upon sitting up suddenly or standing.
My mother had low BP all of her life; at one point I had to give her Vit B12 injections under the skin in her arm
on 3 times a week basis. Mom was also skinny her whole life.
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