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https://www.Beating-Cancer-Gently.com/nl119.html

Bill Henderson of www.beating-cancer-gently.com is seeking MMS cancer success stories for an organization he mentions in his current newsletter. Both he and Jim are very active in their desires to help people. I trust both of these men.
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Baby,

I went to Bills site which lead me to this site, of a man who is fighting his cancer with natural methods.

He has posted his dark field microscopy reports- live blood analysis. Just fascinating. Take a look!

https://www.stopdoingcancer.com/
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Default WARNING: Hard Purges can cause myelinolysis

There should be no hurry to increase MMS dosing, especially in first-time new users. I have heard bad stories about horrible purging reactions on less than 10 drops given by well-meaning experienced users who are used to regular large doses. The resulting rapid dehydration and reduction in electrolytes from hard purging from both ends can induce myelinolysis (read bottom link).
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https://www.chemocare.com/managing/el..._imbalance.asp

Blood test results showing high levels may lead to: weakness or twitching of the muscles, numbness, fatigue, irregular heartbeat and blood pressure changes.
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https://www.nephrologychannel.com/electrolytes/index.shtml
Signs and Symptoms
Symptoms of hyponatremia are related to the severity and the rate at which the conditions develop. The first symptoms are fatigue, weakness, nausea, and headache. More severe cases cause confusion, seizure, coma, and death.

Treatment
The goal of treatment is to restore electrolyte balance for proper hydration and use of total body fluid. Sodium deficiency must be corrected slowly because drastic change in sodium level can cause brain cell shrinkage and central pontine myelinolysis (damage to the pons region of the brain). Methods include:
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Default Chlorine Dioxide government data.....

https://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/toxprofiles/tp160.pdf

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Direct food additive permitted in food for human consumption; used as an antimicrobial agent�acidified sodium chlorite
Used at levels from 50�1,500 ppm
FDA 2001d

21CFR173.325
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So, the top end of 1,500 ppm/1,000,000 = .0015

And, 1/1000 of a liter (1 ml.) = 15 MMS drops from bottle's larger dropper

Then, 15 MMS drops diluted with 1 liter would be within FDA guidelines.

I gulp MMS down with 2 quick gulps totalling about 100 ml. which exceeds FDA guidelines by a factor of ten. However, a full stomach is almost within those guidelines, but an empty stomach would exceed it (and further explain the stronger reaction of MMS on an empty stomach--5 drops on an empty stomach being as potent as 15 drops on a full stomach). I'm not concerned for short duration treatment either way.
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I would like to see the "Bruce" data in which he claims that chlorine dioxide DOES kill the good microflora bacteria, which contradicts Jim Humble.

Also, while chlorine dioxide leaching of life-long accumulated heavy metals from the body is a good thing, it seems that chlorine dioxide will also leach out any metals for which we need at least traces of most of the metals.

I've become inclined to favor less regular 'maintenance' doses for a healthy person, at least until I get some more information.

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Corpus, the "hard purges" you mention and such results are just not that likely. Even if you purged for 3 days you would not develop this condition, as many people over the years do purge for 3 days with serious flu etc and never go to the hospital.

Most people when an MMS purge starts stop the mms immediately and its over in less than 24 hours. Only a couple of times have I heard of it going on for 2 days.
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My wife had to quit using MMS due to stomach problems from using it. I think it is possible that it does kill some needed bacteria, or maybe it can strip some of the mucous barrier from the digestive tract.

It is too bad she can no longer use it, as it was killing Lyme steadily. Back to the Rife machine.

It has never bothered me, and I am the one with an intestinal problem.

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D Bergy,

Sorry to hear this. Can we assume that she is still doing somewhat better in the Lyme realm?

I've been looking around and I came across this page you may want to look at.
It is not MMS as we know it but it is sodium chlorite. Perhaps she could work with a just nonactived sodium chlorite at a reduced dosage to keep her lyme somewhat at bay. Don't know. Just an idea.
https://www.nzymes.com/product-ox-e-d...ettestimonials

essentially, one drop of MMS would equal 5 drops of this product. So if these people and animals get results over time on the dosages they take perhaps just one or two drops of unactivated MMS might be safe for her and helpful also.

I will keep an eye out for things that help to heal the lining of the stomach. Has she had a test done for H-pylori or other issues? Off hand I would think that sodium bicarb, between meals, might help some.
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She is doing well, thanks to the effectiveness of the Rife machine and the MMS we used for a while. She fuctions just as well as any normal person with regular treatment. It is just trying to totally eliminate the bacteria that is presenting a problem.

The cyst form is very resistant to destruction. Probably more so than any other known bacteria. We will beat it in the end. I just do not have "impossible" in my vocabulary.
There is always a way. It is just a matter of finding it.

The MMS gut goes away after a few weeks if she stops taking it. But, it comes right back when she starts again. I do not know why it happens, but it does.

Than you for the information. I will look into it.

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Default Still Waiting For BRUCE to Reply.........

Well, I'm patiently waiting to see the "documented proof that ClO2 kills all the good microflora bacteria in the gut as well as bad" as this has not been my personal actual use experience while taking acid activated sodium chlorite made chlorine dioxide almost daily for 7 months now.

However, I am very interested in getting any scientific data that quantifies how much good aerobic bacteria if any is killed versus the bad anearobic bacteria. Along those lines, I would also like actual quantifiable information about any likelihood of anything above pH7 (alkaline) reacting with chlorine dioxide. Please post links to these data. Sincerely, Corpus
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Bruce? Where's Bruce?
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I heard that Bruce got booted from HealthSalon. Just a nasty guy. Squawking with no meaningful argument.
He does have a product market to protect doesn't he?
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However, I am open to credible science even if contrary in part with my current understanding of chlorine dioxide use. So far I haven't found anything on my own from months of searches that changes my currrent understanding though.
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Well, I think we are all open to credible evidence. Yet, where is it?

And then again, even if Bruce can muster up some credible evidence it still will not discredit the positive effects it has had for so many.

The only thing I have ever heard of concern was the heart palpition that Jill reported. I've heard her story before and I do think she is telling the truth that she experienced this and surely it scared her as I have had a little of that palpitation thing but I really haven't been able to absolutely link it with MMS. It would only occur in the evening after I took MMS. Never in the AM. Turns out I get heart palpitions in the evening anyway, with or without mms. It just seemed to both start at the same time I started mms, as well as my hair falling out. I became very worried that It was the MMS but I finally realized it was all just hormone issues. So it makes me wonder about what Jill on Bruce's Anti MMS site had written. How well does she know her body? What is really going on? I had to have my doctor help me sort it out. I'm now on bioidentical hormonal replacement therapy. It really had nothing to do with the MMS at all.

Jim does warn about using MMS too fast with arterial plaque. I don't have arterial plaque. I know. I've been tested.

I think if you are dumping a lot of toxins real fast you could get heart palpitations. Why would anyone think that dumping a ton of toxins could not possibly affect your heart and cause stress? Anyway, I remain to be convinced on this issue.

Regarding anything new in the health arena, either you stand up for yourself, take responsibility for the risks you take or just slink on back to the allopaths. MMS is not for the faint or fearful, nor for the unthinking masses. It is for the independent and free willed people who take sole responsibility for their choices and life... in general, this is my view on most things.
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I totally agree with all you wrote. -Corpus

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Regarding anything new in the health arena, either you stand up for yourself, take responsibility for the risks you take or just slink on back to the allopaths. MMS is not for the faint or fearful, nor for the unthinking masses. It is for the independent and free willed people who take sole responsibility for their choices and life... in general, this is my view on most things.
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