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Children are a reflection of their parents. Are y'all thinking that parents are intelligent? When you want to buy your kid a healthy fruit drink, do you look at the label? If you did, you would have a hard time finding one that has no HFCS. Do they know or care what hydrogenated means? Isn't it easier to teach the child to stick something in the microwave?

I think people should have no more children than they can afford. When i say afford, I don't necessarily mean financially. Can you afford to spend the time nurturing the child/infant? Do you feel up to making a good meal, when you come in from work? Is your career more important than your family? Then you can't afford a child.

When Russia became a communist country (USSR), they had a policy of taking the children from families and training them for the State. Soldiers, athletes, factory workers or engineers. Did it work? Was it wrong?
Off on a tangent: But anywhere you go outside the US has sodas with real sugar, not HFCS. As for the USSR, I hear from a lot of people, life there really was not that bad.

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As for the USSR, I hear from a lot of people, life there really was not that bad.
Socialism on steroids. Everyone worked. Everyone worked for the State. Even little old ladies worked by sweeping the streets or something for the community. In return, the State provided for them. Not necessarily very well. It must have been difficult transitioning to capitalism. The creation of class structure.
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I think the real issue is not with the government or with parents... the government basically is just a group of federally employed parents....

all have been indoctrinated not by communism or socialism but by corporate capiltolism.

Our institutions in government have been dictated to by not the 4 h club or traditional home econoncomists, or local farmers, but by the corporate food industry. They are the ones who have decided what we shall eat, then they spend billions on marketing compaigns to show us on TV what we should eat.

The indoctrination starts as soon as we can sit up to watch TV.

Now we are into our 3rd generation of parents who have been so indoctrinated by the food industry... these very same parents who work in the government in all its departments.

The same parents who deside what each child will eat at school every day.

The same parents who run schools and teach our children.

the same parents who work in the FDA, the AMA and who are now heading boards of "intelligencia" in leading colleges and universities across our nation.

The same parents who support and promote the food safety laws that have recently been thrown upon us.

We do not need socialism or communism to wreck us... our capitolism which permits political lobby by powerfully backed corporate interests, many of which hold no allegiance to this nation, is doing it for us...

The brain dead sugar and chemical laden parents of the nation largely remain silent and oblivious to what has happened to them.

We have monsanto
we have cargil
we have Kraft
we have Kellog
we have General Mills
we have Nestle
we have Pepsi
and we have so many more

who have pushed upon us though marketing just what we should eat... and it works.. just look at what your neighbors load their carts with in the grocery store.

take a look at this article in Forbes: https://blogs.forbes.com/investopedia...ood-companies/

if we want to free ourselves from the food police we must free ourselves from the corporate mind controlling facist like industries who would have us purchase and eat their trash until we fall dead from cancer and dementia.

here is an enlightening article from the Huffington post.. although some here have critized Michelle Obama, she did after all plant an organic garden at the white house.. (How many of us have planted organic gardens?) Perhaps she is the only sane voice in the wilderness, a voice lost even to her husband... Barrack, who has defied her at every turn by remaining silent and allowing these food safety legislations be enacted without a peep. I do not believe for one second that this went with Michelles approval. She seems like the loan wolf in the woods.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/devinder-sharma/michelle-obama-can-lead-a_b_568741.html
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Socialism on steroids. Everyone worked. Everyone worked for the State. Even little old ladies worked by sweeping the streets or something for the community. In return, the State provided for them. Not necessarily very well. It must have been difficult transitioning to capitalism. The creation of class structure.

We were more than guilty of escalalting and continuing the cold war. If the USSR did not have to compete with us, their people could have had it better and now, they have more billionaires than anyone. Talk about wealth imbalance.
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Chipotle. Personally I think they are horrible, my opinion only because it seems everyone loves them. But Men's Health had an article about them, they are so loaded with carbs, their burrito has twice the calories as a taco bell half pound burrito. But you are correct, we need healthier fast food chains but then again, 17 yrs ago (1994/95) taco bell had a healthy choice menu but they killed it since the demand was low.

My favorite (but you have to be in a city to find it or california/or/wa) is vietnamese food. Nothing like it, but where I live it would flop, people want that 3000 calorie 2 dollar special dripping with grease.

I am ranting (sorry): In 1980 I was in school for the summer and when I came home for the occasional weekend my parents and I would go to sunday brunch at this place in wellsburg WV. Buffett style and this family would be there every time we were. 400 pound dad, 400 pound mom, 200 pound 12 yr old kid.
I agree you can't get a burrito. You have have to get the bowl, no cheese, no wrap, no sour cream and it's like 400 calories. It just depends what you put in it.

I love vietnamese food and eat it once a week. I live in Florida and eat it once a week and it's crap compared to what's in California. Just recently I spent two weeks in San Diego and I love their food. I mostly eat the soup (pho), which I absolutely love and can always eat once a week. I'm amazed how in certain parts of cali I can get it for 4 bucks and it's amazing quality.
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The program noted that the USA was the fattest country in the world and that Mississippi was the fattest state.... funny I thought that would be Missouri.. went through there once in the rural parts and I had never seen so many fat people in my life... not like that in Kansas City though
was the USA really the fattest country in the world? Not sure why, but I thought we wouldn't be in first place. Mississippi, Alabama, Texas and most of the south appears to have a weight problem.
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I enjoyed reading the posts and it reminded me when I was in high school, so many years ago. There was an option for lunch that was the normal lunch or the other line that was pizza and fries. The truth was that the pizza and fries line was the longest and to top it off soda as well. Wonder why we have a problem when lunch for high school is pizza, prices and soda
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jbo, when I lived in minneapolis I would devour the vietnamese food. It is getting more widespread thank God.
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