I was just doing some researching (my opinions only).

1) Norway has one of the best medical systems in the world (and this is not opinion, it is fact: The US has the most expensive but lags behind 37 other countries).

2) Norway is crazy expensive (met people who have been there, a small sandwhich and beer is like 40 bucks US)''


3) Very healthy lifestyle and very clean country, they have tons of seafood (wild caught but they also have much better seafood farming methods than us). they eat a much better and fresher diet.

4) They make like double the average american

5) They also have a longer longevity than us.

When Drack mentions he sees positive responses from chemo in patients, it just might be they have a healthier constitution than people in the states with all our junkfood etc.

Now how close is Norway to Germany?

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I think many Americans disagree that the healthcare system is broken. All independent reports indicate basically what you wrote that it's about 37 on the top 100 list, yet spend generally a lot more than anybody else.

A girl I know who is a medical doctor originally from India actually flies home to india to get any major surgery done, because she feels it's better in India and she said the costs are drastically less. She told me she has no insurance.
One time she was scuba diving and something happened to her ear drum that she needed surgery right away. She actually flew to India with extreme pain when her ears would pop, but would rather do that than have it done here in the USA. For me there's something wrong here, but I can't tell you how many people argue that the USA has the best healthcare in the world, best doctors...etc

Norway is blessed with many natural resources such as large oil and natural gas reserves and they have had the good sense to not join OPEC so they can control the price.

Because of the large number of freshwater fiords they generate 98% of their electricity from the fiord water driving the generators. No pollution or nuclear power generation risks for them.

The government also has a large fund worth about $400 billion, mainly from oil and gas revenues, which they can use for capital development or help for future generations. I suspect this is also why they can afford such a generous Welfare State and Healthcare System. Despite all the low pollution and high omega 3's from all that fish in the diet, they dont live all that much longer. Average lifespan is 79 for men and 83 for women.

https://www.geographicguide.net/europ...europe-map.gif

Norway has been very successful in socialism. Something that Americans are afraid of. They have a nice budget surplus and practically no national debt. They were buying large amounts of U.S. stocks as our market fell. Now that our market is recovering, they are doing very well from these investments. They will continue to reap benefits with their oil market right now. Pricey? High taxes may not be bad when all of society benefits as the country works for that society.

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Last yr I had an aunt in the hospital, I asked a nurse for some vaseline for her for chapped lips. She opens up locked door with a key and hands me a small pack of petroleum jelly and logs it into the computer so they can charge her bill.

When my dad was in the hospital , he fell out of bed beacuse the nurses aiod did not raise the guard rail on the bed, They brought in a neurologist to see him for 30 seconds and he charged medicare/insurance 200 bucks. WTF???????????????????????

On last visit to family witch doctor for general check up. I spent a total of 15 maybe 20 minutes in examination room. Was asked a few standard questions, did a couple routine tests, took blood and urine samples for further testing. Medicare�s� cost for the office visit plus the further testing over $1400.

A few years back the doctor wanted me to have a heart stress test, it sounded simple enough so why not.
Go to the lab take of shirt to be wired up for EKG. Hop onto exam table and nurse does a ultrasound of the heart, it is there beating away contently.
Get off of exam table go over to tread mill and do a brisk walk to get heart rate up. Hop back up on exam table and do a second ultrasound. Heart is still there and beating away just fine.
The whole procedure took maximum 30 minutes.
On the way out the receptionist says that will be $1550 please. Heart stops beating.

Drack, what people are saying is that in the US and now unfortuantely the world, that medicine is an industry and protects itself. It is very very lucrative and cannot have competion from alternative forms. Before 1910, in the US you had a choice of biomedicine (allopathic, what we have today), homeopathy, osteopathy (the old style, not the new one) and herbalists. The Rockefellers sponsored what was called the Flexner report which unified all med schools with the biomed curriculum and the others were considered outcast and ineffective.

We are assuming Drack is a medical doctor, because he says he is..

(I'm an astronaut)

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He seems legit.

Haha, why would I lie? It's not like having an MD will impress anyone here.


As for all the other replies, I find it a bit hard to keep up, as I don't have all that much spare time these days. I'll try to write a better reply tomorrow.

I do not assume anyone here is what they proclaim, but if you take everything with a grain of salt anyway, it does not really matter.

It takes a lot of posting and time, before I give someone any credibility. I don't care if they are a ditch digger or a CEO, good treatments, and judgment are not unique to any particular social group.

I have followed arrows posts for years now, and I know she has solid advice, but it took that long before I trusted her judgment.

I have had good advice from many members, but I always check it out for myself first, before use. Drack may have some good ideas, whether he is a real doctor or not.

A majority of the best treatments I have and use, did not come from the medical community. But some of them did.

Dan

I agree.

I wonder, if I went on a M.D. site and started discussing alternative cancer treatments, how I would be treated..

Burned at the proverbial Stake no doubt.

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