Epicor is touted as being a first class immunity enhancer. I wonder how would one know if their immunity was enhanced?

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Well I also have just received my Epicor brochure today. It sure sounds interesting, it appears to be safe and there doesn�t seem to be any serious side effects particularly if you happen to be a research rat.

According to their studies it showed that the fury participants:

Did not gain or loss weight.
Had no toxic symptoms.
No early deaths
No change to the eyes
No changes in sensory reactions
No changes to the blood or urine.
No evidence of gene mutation.

This is all good. But just what did it do for them? Doe�s anyone know more about this?

[Now where did I put my immunity-measuring meter?]

I've been using Epicor for about 4 months but honestly can't tell you if it is doing anything because I normally don't get colds or flu.

There is a very comprehensive article and FAQ at Vitamin Research Products. https://www.vrp.com/

They also have the best prices currently. Buy 2, get 1 free in the month of November.

Mari

My experience with Epicor:

I started taking Epicor when it first came out in July. This past week I have had my first cold in four years and it lasted a whole week. My last cold (New Year's Day 2003) lasted a day and a half.

So---does Epicor work?

Mari

Hey Marie, that doesn't sound too good. Anyway, hope you are over
it now.

I can't remember how long its been since I had a cold. Many years at
least and I don't take epicor. I thought I would consider it as a
prophylactic, but maybe not. Maybe it works best on those who get
sick a lot

With my heavy Vit C intake I don't normally get colds or flu. If I do feel a scratch throat or itchy nose, I immediately start sniffing colloidal silver with H2O2.

In 2001, my wife & I took jobs as resident assistant mgrs in a retirement center. Since we lived in a small apartment, I got away from my usual supplements. Pretty soon I came down with a horrible cold and sore throat. I combated it by chewing on raw garlic cloves and the retirees were very happy to see me get well.

My boss was always giving me the evil eye when I would lecture the inmates on nutrition.

Epicor is just another product that would provide glyconutrients. The yeast cell walls have monosaccharides that bind macrophage receptor sites and stimulate release of immune mediating chemicals. It's the same effect achieved with lactobacilli cell walls, sugars like trehalose in mushrooms, mannose in aloe vera inner gel, and rhamnose in apple rinds. The effect may be no different from what we would get from plain brewer's yeast.

Does it work? It should. But these glyconutrients are only stimulants of the immune system. The response to these stimuli would require other nutrients for the immune system, particularly protein as well as a number of B vitamins. Increased body temperature would also help (physical activity or exercise).

Gerry

Gerry, I recall your favorable view of mushrooms.
What is your view of the concoctions below relative
to EpiCor and the like?

https://www.advancedbionutritionals.com/immunity/

https://www.mycophyto.com/

I wonder how it would compare with AHCC 2oz, from NOW Foods?

As I mentioned, they work by the same mechanism: glyconutrient stimulation of macrophages.

But as I also mentioned, the mechanism is not unique to mushroom sugars.

Since they work by the same mechanism, they should have the same results. But as I mentioned, glyconutrients are only the stimuli. The immune system's response involves other nutrients, particularly protein, as well as other vitamins.

But while these supplements are good or excellent for immune system stimulation, would you enjoy swallowing a pill or tasting the food? Why not enjoy mushrooms, apples, yogurt, or coconut?

I'd rather take my "medicine" from my food than take my food in the form of "medicine." :wink:

Gerry

I agree, on a preventative basis, but if I had cancer, I might want to call in Rambo.

Apparently, to the extent it is true, there are mushrooms and then
there are mushrooms. I agree that eating mushrooms
may be a better thing to do than eating the specialized stuff.

But how can I know about the soil substrate used in the growth of the super market source that I am limited to? And how much truth
is there in the advantage of the specialized growth mediums?

Any knowledge on this question out there when the following info
is considered????

" As you may know, mushrooms are among the most powerful immune-supporting substances in the world. But you might not know that mushrooms are often tainted with toxins! You see they act like sponges, soaking up whatever is in the surrounding soil. If that soil is polluted, the mushrooms grown on it become polluted too. In fact, some mushrooms grown in China have been found to contain high levels of heavy metals.

For that reason, Dr. Eliaz went looking for the safest mushrooms available. He collaborated with other researchers who grow mushrooms for the supplement industry. They raise their mushrooms on organic brown rice in an environmentally controlled setting to avoid any possible contamination. Then, each batch is tested to guarantee that there are no contaminants.

Dr. Eliaz selected a special blend of six medicinal mushrooms. Other mushroom formulas contain just one or two types of mushrooms. But Dr. Eliaz included Maitake, Reishi, Cordyceps, Royal Agaricus, Polyporus, and Turkey Tail.

Two of Nature’s Most Powerful Healers, Combined!

Dr. Eliaz and his colleagues reasoned that if mushrooms can absorb heavy metals from polluted soil, they could just as easily soak up beneficial nutrients from Chinese herbs.

So Dr. Eliaz and his research team did something that had never been done before. They took their proprietary blend of six medicinal mushrooms and grew them on a special formula of Chinese herbs.

By themselves, these herbs have been shown to detoxify the body and support the immune and circulatory systems. But Dr. Eliaz mixed the various herbs and mushrooms so that the healing properties of the herbs worked synergistically on the mushrooms.

For example, Cordyceps and Reishi mushrooms are known for their potent adaptogenic effects. So these mushrooms were fed herbs like Astragalus that have powerful adaptogenic, immune-supporting properties themselves.

As soon as these enhanced mushrooms began to grow, the researchers knew they had something special. The mushrooms were growing 20-40% faster than those grown on brown rice alone! And that’s not all. Further laboratory testing revealed that these mushrooms had a higher concentration of immune-supporting ingredients as well.

After they harvested and dried the mushrooms, the scientists added the phytonutrient beta-glucan. You may have heard of beta-glucan. It’s found in oat bran and the cell walls of mushrooms. Beta-glucan is a potent supporter of your body’s natural defenses.

Medicinal mushrooms naturally contain high amounts of beta-glucan. So by adding more beta-glucan to the medicinal mushrooms, Dr. Eliaz achieved a whopping 11% beta-glucan content! That’s a higher beta-glucan content than any food I know of . . . ."

There is a large mushroom farm near my mom in Florida and she loves to use spent mushroom compost in her flower garden.

Gene Sparling, the husband of my wife's dentist here in Hot Springs, Arkansas, is a commercial grower of mushrooms, the kind that are grown in damp oak logs. Sparling was the person that rediscovered the thought to be extinct Ivory Bill Woodpecker.