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Thanks for the advice Jim. I don't have infection but get cracks in the thick, hard skin that sometimes go deep and hurt like paper cuts. They are slow to heal and about the time they start looking good the psoriasis gets worse and it starts all over again.

I'm also trying something I saw on a You Tube video called Doo Gro stimulating growth formula that's meant to help grow hair but the lady swore it cured her psoriasis on her hands after dealing with it for 42 years. I found it at Walgreens. She also used Dove moisturizing facial lotion and Dove unscented soap, but I didn't get the lotion yet. I've used that soap exclusively for many years. Anyhow, between the silver cream and Doo Gro it's slowed down a little, but I can't call it a cure yet.
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Night owl, I certainly don't know if nutrasilver will help your p or not but I do know that with morgellon's some of the folks used very very high dosages, up to two hundred drops a day during different phases of their treatment...

You have circulatory disorder, swelling and inflammation. Getting the silver to the place of need may be an issue and if you say that topical silver (silvadine cream?)
helps there there may be hope. Dr Donsbach makes a topical silver cream that I like also but I always though silvadine cream was a great product. Wonder what would happen if you applied that silver cream you have with a touch of DMSO?

I wonder if anyone has used Nutrasilver with DMSO as a delivery system topically and orally. Some people take DMSO orally, Jeremy of Many has. You could PM him.
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I asked my doctor for Silvadine and the pharmacy gave me Silver Sulfadiazine Cream USP and it says 1%. The ingredients list says 1 gram contains 10 mg of the silver sulfadiazine in a base of cetyl alcohol, isopropyl myristate, white petrolatum etc...do you think it's compareable? Good old insurance you know...they have to save a buck! It only cost me $3 for a large 400 gram jar though. I slather it on thickly.

Nah...if I was dying of cancer I might try DMSO internally, but not quite yet. I'm going to a dermatologist the 30th and hope to try light therapy.

I'll try larger doses of Nutrasilver.
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What the pharmacist gave you is the generic for silvadine cream. It will be fine. Wish I had a jar at 3 bucks!
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Nightowl, I wonder if silica would help. I mean just cheap food quality diatomaceous earth.

Conversion of silica to orthosilicic acid for use by the body. Silica is essential for the formation of collagen, elastin, and chondroitin. Without sufficient silica we develop numerous conditions including osteoporosis, osteoarthritis, heart disease, emphysema, diverticulitis, etc. Even wrinkles and cellulite can result from a loss of silica leading to a reduction of the structural proteins collagen and elastin. In order for silica to be absorbed and utilized it must first be converted in to orthosilicic acid. This occurs from a reaction between silica and water, but the process is greatly enhanced by the presence of an acid. The primary acid for this conversion is stomach acid. Stomach acid DECLINES with age. This leads to a drop in the conversion of silica in to orthosilicic acid, and therefore a loss of collagen, elastin, and chondroitin production as we age. Notice how these symptoms are not seen in younger people, but common in the elderly. So why do we see this in the elderly? Because the lack of stomach acid interferes with the absorption of nutrients needed for the production of structural proteins. These nutrients include silica, zinc, copper and amino acids.

Check out our previous threads on DE. It has improved my skin and hair quality; but not yet for wrinkles and more hair. Yes, more hair growth. Especially more nail growth.

Nettle leaf is also supposed to be good for psoriasis.

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The nice thing is that the silver cream prescription is renewable for a year!! Another silver cream we found at a local health food store helped the few spots of psoriasis my daughter has on her legs.
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Jim,

Thanks very much for explaining the need for silica. I knew it was needed but didn't understand the need for digestive juices. I took BioSil for a while, putting 6 drops into empty capsuls because the taste was too bad to take directly. Would that be a more available form than from DE? I have heard of DE but didn't study it much...I ran across it as a soil additive in gardening, but didn't use it.

Another important thing that helps to moisturize the skin is hyleuronic acid...I'm probably not spelling that right...and I took one bottle of it not long ago, but didn't see much benefit to my skin. That may have been for the same reason that silica has trouble getting into the skin. I'm going to try to remember to take a teaspoon of cider vinegar along with meals and maybe take the medications at the same time. I've read that cider vinegar is about the closest thing to digestive stomach acid. Am I right?

I've tried for years to find something natural that would improve the elasticity of my lungs and bronchial tubes...emphysema...so I'm happy to see that this all fits together and may be the answer I've needed. I've tried just about everything else...why not?!

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The best thing you can take to supplement stomach acid is hydrochloric acid itself. Betain HCL is a good choice. Take when you are planning to eat, just minutes before you eat. Take enough for your stomach to feel slighly warm.

For Silica I recommend Horsetail but people get pretty good results with biosil too. My choice is vega sil from Flora

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I was planning to look up horsetail because I thought it was known for silica. I'll look up the others too, but right now I have two threads going, as well as emails, so it's hard to do much justice to each. I've seen a lot of conversation about Betain HCL but haven't tried it. I'll get some. Maybe it would be good to try more than one source of silica.

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BioSil is Silicon (as Choline-Stabilized Orthsilicic Acid) in a liquid base of purified water so is already converted to a usable form. I probably should still try taking Betain HCL so that I absorb nutrition better, at my age.
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I will continue to see diatomaceas earth as the best and safest source; as long it is food grade.

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Large doses of horsetail may cause symptoms of nicotine overdose, including fever, cold hands and feet, abnormal heart rate, difficulty walking, muscle weakness, and weight loss. People who smoke or who use nicotine patches or nicotine gum should avoid horsetail. Reports from animal studies and one report of a nicotine-allergic person describe a rash occurring after the use of white horsetail. Other reports from use in animals describe nausea, increased frequency of bowel movements, increased urination, loss of the body's potassium stores, and muscle weakness. People with kidney disorders should avoid horsetail.
Studies in mice suggest that horsetail may change the activity of the kidneys, causing abnormal control of the amount of water and potassium release. Low potassium, which in theory may occur with horsetail, can have negative effects on the heart. Individuals who have heart rhythm disorders or who take digoxin should be cautious. Studies suggest that horsetail does not change blood pressure.
Horsetail contains an ingredient that destroys thiamine (vitamin B1), which could lead to deficiency with long-term use. This may cause permanent damage to the brain and nervous system, including confusion, difficulty walking, difficulties with vision and eye movement, and memory loss. People who have thiamine (vitamin B1) deficiency or poor nutrition should avoid horsetail, as it may affect levels of thiamine even more. Alcoholic or malnourished individuals are often thiamine deficient and this may be worsened by horsetail.
Avoid use in patients taking antidiabetic agents, as a different horsetail species ( Equisetum myriochaetum ) has reportedly caused low blood sugar levels in type 2 diabetic patients.
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I don't know what they mean by "large dose"; but the rest of the information is of concern. I also don't know what species of horsetail that manufacturers use for human consumption; but once again, why bother when there are safer means of getting silica.

I also feel that it is better to improve the acids for digestion through the use of TMG and digestive bitters.

If DE sits in water for a while, it will become more available to the body.
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Thanks Jim. I will definately look into the DE today.
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The following video explains how high dose D3, mixed with vaseline, treats psoriasis.

Fast forward to about 42 minutes.

I would have used virgin organic coconut oil in place of vaseline.

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Great find pbd! I've been using Vaseline all along, and it's about the best consistancy for keeping the skin soft and holding moisture and meds on the skin longer. Everything else absorbs quickly into my extremely dry skin and then it starts itching again. I've tried Tropicana coconut oil and for some reason it irritates my skin...smells great though! It isn't heavy enough.

I'm trying to figure out how to mix 3 mcg Vit. D3 to 1 gram Vaseline. I have 1,000 IU, 5,000 IU and 50,000 IU capsules of Vit. D3 but how do I convert them to mcg? I suppose it wouldn't have to be that critical, but I want to be sure to have enough.
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Joni Mitchell has revealed publicly that she has had Morgellons disease for the past 20 years. I have spoken with hundreds of Morgellons sufferers during the last three years, so I have a glimmer of how much this gifted singer has suffered. Joni said she has spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on Doctors, pharmaceuticals and every other kind of health-care practitioner imaginable over the years in many different countries including some of the best Doctors and hospitals in the USA as well..

All she got was worse.

Joni mentioned she was so angry with most of her Doctors, since none of them knew anything at all about Morgellons. All of them took her money and gave her prescription drugs, herbs, potions and lotions. She said �Most of them are out for the money and pretend they know about Morgellons so she would come back for further help.�

Since Morgellons Disease was reported in the mainstream media in 2005, there has been no real progress made in discovering the cause, how Morgellons is contracted and transmitted, if it is contagious or if it is directly responsible for deaths other than suicides. Deaths are increasing exponentially and so is the level of infection in the global population.

The symptoms are right out of a science fiction novel. Most experience �brain fog� (confusion like ADHD), severe depression, deep bone and muscle ache just like fibromyalgia, severe chronic fatigue just like Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (many Morgellons victims sleep 10 to 16 hours a day and are still exhausted), multi-colored fibers grow from their skin that are coated in high-density polyurethane that will not burn until 1,400 degrees Fahrenheit is reached, and most bizarre, they experience animals that relentlessly move and bite the victim under their skin 24/7. A complete list of Morgellons symptoms can be seen at the Morgellons Research Foundation website.

Morgellons victims loose their lives to this disease; MD�s and Dermatologist dismiss the symptoms as Delusions of Parasitosis (DOP), a subset of schizophrenia. The Medical Community treat their Morgellons patients much like HIV/AIDS patients were treated 30 years ago when that disease was new. The idea was simple; if it is not in the 'book', than it must be in your head. These victims are shunned by family and employers and are left alone without support and eventually become severely depressed, hopeless and suicidal. In April, 2007 in the Journal of the American of Dermatology, Dr. William Harvey published an open letter to the Medical community regarding how Physicians should approach Morgellons disease.

Over forty US Senators and Congressmen has written letters to the Centers for Disease Control, including Senators Obama and Clinton requesting an investigation into this bizarre disease. The CDC began its investigation in Oakland, California at the Kaiser-Permanente Hospital in January, 2008 and was supposed to release its finding in May 2009. Inside sources now say it will be another year before the results are released. The funding for the CDC study was a mere $338,000; barely enough to set up the investigation. These same inside sources say that the remainder of the funding comes from the US Army.

In the past 5 years, there has been little financial resources to scientifically explore the cause(s) and treatment(s) to help Morgellons suffers begin to �get their lives back�. There are small pockets of individuals who are conducting their own Morgellons investigations with little or no funding. The Morgellons Research Foundation, located at Oklahoma State University, is severely underfunded and has expressed little interest in finding any relief for Morgellons victims, but rather focuses on discovering the cause of this mysterious new disease. Meanwhile, Morgellons victims search relentlessly on the Internet for some clue as to how to eliminate their suffering.

Worse, there is no spokesperson to bring to the public eye the incredible torment Morgellons victim�s experience. Most of the scientists that are willing to discuss Morgellons say that there could be as many as 10,000 new Morgellons victims every day in the USA alone. Most will not get diagnosed correctly and will be given a DOP label to labeled in their medical record for life as mental patients.

Included in this number of new Morgellons victims are celebrities, Senators and Congressmen and other public figures. Until one or more of them steps up and shares their Morgellons suffering with the world, the rest of us will remain asleep to Morgellons until each of us becomes the next Morgellons sufferer. Until a celebrity or public figure has the courage and conviction to publically announce their Morgellons disease and encourage mainstream science to fund and investigate Morgellons disease, the silent suffering will continue.

In February, 2009, it became public that Joni Mitchell has Morgellons. I found her manager in Canada and spoke with several people in his office. They were very pleasant and helpful, especially when I told them that I was sending her 8 bottles of NutraSilver without charge and that Joni should expect to heal dramatically in a few weeks. I waited and waited until Joni actually called me to say that many of her worst symptoms had either subsided or were mostly gone. She said she was beginning to feel �like herself� again and that her brain fog was clearing up and she could think clearly once more. She has since bought several hundred bottles for herself.

Many of her lesions have dried up and fell off. The lesions actually consume the skin pigmentation, so where the lesions fell off there are now white areas where the lesions used to be. Joni said she could live with that as long as the lesions did not return. While not yet symptom-free, Joni continues to heal and gain her life back. Joni has since moved away from her relentless suffering towards recovery which has made life easier for her.

As an expression of gratitude, Joni was gracious enough to send me an advanced copy of her up-coming ballet The Fiddle and the Drum. Not being much of a ballet fan, I really was not interested in any form of ballet until I actually saw Joni�s DVD. Joni and her team did an outstanding job creating this entertaining and enjoyable masterpiece. Joni�s singing and writing skills have been honed exquisitely for this very endeavor.

I am happy to have met Joni and I know that if she continues to take NutraSilver, her Morgellons symptoms will leave her alone and she can continue to create music and art for all of us to enjoy. Joni is a brave and courageous woman. I hope she decides to tell her story of how Morgellons disease nearly ruined her life; that she speaks up to publically proclaim to the world that Morgellons Disease a real disease and perhaps she can lead the charge to raise significant money so real research can occur. In the mean time, Morgellons sufferers sit and suffer and wait.
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