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I use ubiquinol as the form of coq as well as regular coq. I am also giving him serrapeptase for the next 2 weeks for his lungs. He did do a short fast also.(18 hrs only water)
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Also, I am giving him 1 g l-carnitine a few times a week and last night I started him on 1/4 teaspoon baking soda in water.
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Also, I am giving him 1 g l-carnitine a few times a week and last night I started him on 1/4 teaspoon baking soda in water.
L-Carnitine is a good choice, however, I have my doubts concerning the baking soda in water.

If there was a tumor, for example, and the baking soda solution was "fed" into the blood supply vessel that feeds the tumor, I could see this method working, thus shrinking the tumor.
However, it is my opinion that baking soda solution + water + stomach acid = diluted stomach acid.

I don't see how this would help his health..
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L-Carnitine is a good choice, however, I have my doubts concerning the baking soda in water.

If there was a tumor, for example, and the baking soda solution was "fed" into the blood supply vessel that feeds the tumor, I could see this method working, thus shrinking the tumor.
However, it is my opinion that baking soda solution + water + stomach acid = diluted stomach acid.

I don't see how this would help his health..

There was an article on people with CKD being given baking soda and the diseases progresses slower.
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Just be sure to give the baking soda well before and after meals... 2 hours each side. Baking soda will neutralize stomach acid but he will make more by the time the next meal comes. Watch for digestive issues.
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Curcumin has shown ability to repair damaged kidney nephrons.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16461119

Elevated levels of homocysteine, caused by a faulty breakdown in protein metabolism, can cause kidney and heart damage.

https://www.lef.org/protocols/prtcls-...prtcl-065.html

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In kidney disease, homocysteine levels in the blood increase because the kidneys do not properly filter homocysteine. Elevated levels of homocysteine are commonly seen in renal patients, sometimes three or four times higher than normal levels (van Guldener et al. 2000; Friedman et al. 2001; Herrmann et al. 2001; Suliman et al. 2001). Homocysteine is consistently elevated to very high levels in patients who require dialysis (Levin et al. 2002). Plasma homocysteine concentrations often decrease after dialysis (Welch et al. 1998). Therefore, to further help lower homocysteine levels, dialysis patients often require high levels of nutrients, including folic acid, vitamin B12, TMG (also known as betaine or trimethylglycine), and vitamin B6 (Bostom et al. 1996; Chauveau et al. 1996; Robinson et al. 1996; Sadava et al. 1996; Tucker et al. 1996; Welch et al. 1998; van Guldener et al. 2000; Herrmann et al. 2001; Levin et al. 2002).
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All of the advice here talks about treating the symptoms, a popular Western trend.
I think you should forget about treating symptoms and concentrate on the cause. Age definitely plays a roll after all, something has to do us all in but supplements or various quick fixes are basically experimenting on a body's total state of health and since everyone's body is different, throwing down a supplement that "may" re-balance the system is like driving a car blindfolded...you "may" reach your destination.

The Chinese believe that the kidneys are the key to good health and vitality and many of their exercises are geared towards this. You should consider joining your Dad in a tai chi or Qigong class if one is available near you.
Here is a link for a Qigong (breathwork) set, that specifically targets the kidneys on you tube. Sure its strange and doing it with your Dad will make him more willling to follow along plus, laughter is good medicine so go ahead and get your laughs together (especially mimicing the sounds!), then get down to business and make plans to practice it daily.
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Qigong is a great idea. Stimulating and moving energy is always called for. Good luck to get an old timer like this to do it.

Nutritional deficiency is at the root of many diseases. Providing the correct nutrients is known to reverse and cure many diseases. Also, eliminating pathogens. Qiqong, I know can restore internal balance, but with age and disease at this level it is wise to work on many levels. With kidney function like this time is of the essence. The best thing to have going for him is a willing attitude... if that attitude is strong enough then he will be open to Qigong and do it. If not then other measures will have to suffice.

Saved- if you are doing the bicarb thing make sure to check PH. If you do not effectively shift the ph you are likely not doing much good with it.
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Qigong is a great idea. Stimulating and moving energy is always called for. Good luck to get an old timer like this to do it.

Nutritional deficiency is at the root of many diseases. Providing the correct nutrients is known to reverse and cure many diseases. Also, eliminating pathogens. Qiqong, I know can restore internal balance, but with age and disease at this level it is wise to work on many levels. With kidney function like this time is of the essence. The best thing to have going for him is a willing attitude... if that attitude is strong enough then he will be open to Qigong and do it. If not then other measures will have to suffice.

Saved- if you are doing the bicarb thing make sure to check PH. If you do not effectively shift the ph you are likely not doing much good with it.

A nurse called today from the other doctor he sees in the same group, she said there was no decline from the past (he does have CKF, but it is not as bad as the first nurse said because she did not look at the previous paperwork: american medicine in action! But I have found some things on a low protein diet and slowing kidney failure, and thank God, he has finally increased his fruit intake and is now slowly increasing his veggie intake.
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Arrowwind09,

Nutrition may be at the root of "many" illnesses but an imbalance or stagnant chi is at the root of "all" of them. I agree that nutrition plays a huge roll but I do not agree with following the random advice of people on a forum to "try and discover" what is missing or needed through experimentation.

Now if he is working with a nutritionist good, otherwise I think there is a good chance he can cause more harm than good.

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Arrowwind09,

Nutrition may be at the root of "many" illnesses but an imbalance or stagnant chi is at the root of "all" of them. I agree that nutrition plays a huge roll but I do not agree with following the random advice of people on a forum to "try and discover" what is missing or needed through experimentation.

Now if he is working with a nutritionist good, otherwise I think there is a good chance he can cause more harm than good.

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How can I cause harm with low dose herbs and now I will be changing his diet to lower protein. As for "chi" I believe somewhat in that (studies have shown tai chi to be beneficial and there was one article read about acupuncture helping", but he will not go for that.
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Okay, but I was really speaking about the overall thread...suggestions to take various dosages of vitamins etc.

I am surprised you have any belief in chi at all if you need "studies" to prove the effectiveness of any of the Chinese therapies.
Science isn't too big on chi and information is rather limited. Of course science cannot explain why people living beneath high voltage power lines have greater incidences of cancer either; but they are well aware that it's true.

Those familiar with Chinese medicine know that the power lines disrupt the chi and cause it to stagnate.

Qigong is not a cure all to be sure but wherever there is illness, injury and/or disease, there is stagnant chi.

As a tai chi teacher, I am very well aware of the difficulty in getting people to practice it; especially the old dogs who are set in their ways...in fact, my Mother lives downstairs with COPD and she believes in what I do but refuses to do a very simple Qigong specifically for her lungs!

What "low dose herbs" are you considering and how will they be given? Chinese Yam (huai shan) is good for kidney vitality and a good way to introduce it is in Juk or Congee Jook, which is rice porridge. Rice is boiled in a large amount of water to make a consistency similar to oatmeal.

Anyway, good luck
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Okay, but I was really speaking about the overall thread...suggestions to take various dosages of vitamins etc.

I am surprised you have any belief in chi at all if you need "studies" to prove the effectiveness of any of the Chinese therapies.
Science isn't too big on chi and information is rather limited. Of course science cannot explain why people living beneath high voltage power lines have greater incidences of cancer either; but they are well aware that it's true.

Those familiar with Chinese medicine know that the power lines disrupt the chi and cause it to stagnate.

Qigong is not a cure all to be sure but wherever there is illness, injury and/or disease, there is stagnant chi.

As a tai chi teacher, I am very well aware of the difficulty in getting people to practice it; especially the old dogs who are set in their ways...in fact, my Mother lives downstairs with COPD and she believes in what I do but refuses to do a very simple Qigong specifically for her lungs!

What "low dose herbs" are you considering and how will they be given? Chinese Yam (huai shan) is good for kidney vitality and a good way to introduce it is in Juk or Congee Jook, which is rice porridge. Rice is boiled in a large amount of water to make a consistency similar to oatmeal.

Anyway, good luck
Steve

Thanks Steve. Right now I am giving him Cordyceps also. I trust TCM and do not need scientific proof. that stuff works.
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Has he done mms? /QUOTE]
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No, have not tried mms yet
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