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Very interesting reading! I currently use a Trader Joe's deodorant and it seems fine.

If necessary, I rub a bit of tea tree oil on my underarms and that nukes any odor that's coming from anything odoriferous detoxifying.

I'm going to try the baking soda, I don't know why that didn't occur to me because I love using it and other "green" things for cleaning and laundry.

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If necessary, I rub a bit of tea tree oil on my underarms and that nukes any odor that's coming from anything odoriferous detoxifying.
Interesting. I've read, somewhere, that one should not put essential oil directly on the skin. I think it needs to be mixed with something to dilute it. It's been so long, I can't remember what I read.

I always make sure any product I use, does not contain SLS. Most commercial products do.

I've my coconut oil fails, due to working in the heat, I use a makeup pad, with apple cider vinegar, to wipe down my arm pits. It is antibacterial as well. Then I apply the coconut oil or mineral rock again. I occasionally use a mineral rock.
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Interesting. I've read, somewhere, that one should not put essential oil directly on the skin. I think it needs to be mixed with something to dilute it. It's been so long, I can't remember what I read.
Hi Jim,

I found this:

"While most essential oils are safe, not all of them are considered safe for application on the skin. Aromatherapy practitioners advise using them with intelligence and discretion to avoid unwanted side-effects.

Skin-Safe Essential Oils
Regarded as the most skin-safe essential oils, lavender and tea tree oils are the only ones that can be applied undiluted to small areas of skin.

Phototoxic Oils

Essential oils in the citrus family such as bergamot, lemon, lime, bitter orange, tangerine, and grapefruit are considered phototoxic oils.

A chemical present in these oils increases the amount of radiation absorbed, when skin is exposed to the sun. Skin should not be exposed to sunlight for at least 24 hours after using these oils.

Skin-Irritant Oils

Some essential oils such as clove, cinnamon bark, thyme, peppermint, and oregano are skin irritants. Irritating the skin in the smallest of concentrations, topical use of these oils should be avoided.

Considerations

Proper dosage is an imperative concept in the safety of essential oils. Some essential oils can cause skin irritation, liver disease, and even tumors when administered in larger than recommended doses.

Safety

Practitioners recommend caution when using essential oils on the skin in people with allergies, children, and during pregnancy. They recommend doing patch test on a small area of the skin before applying them to larger areas."

https://www.ehow.com/facts_5645072_sk...ial-oils_.html

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This is good to know about tea tree oil. This info is going to be hard to remember regarding the rest. Maybe that is why I only remembered that "all" essential oils require caution. Yes. Mt memory is incorrect; but then, I don't have to remember which ones are OK or not. I think I'm just going to specifically remember the safe ones, and the rest are not.
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I think I'm just going to specifically remember the safe ones, and the rest are not.
Me too! And since I only use tea tree oil and occasionally lavender, that works for me!

I figure I could always look something up when and if I ever actually need it instead of trying to remember everything...
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Cookie, are you a dog groomer? That's the only time I get covered with tiny (wire) hairs, when I clipper down my two. I'm gonna try the coconut oil too, as soon as I get around to picking some more up from the store.
Close... I'm a people groomer! I'm a hairdresser at a 540 bed subacute & rehab center.

The coconut oil is really working out quite well, I'm happy to report! If a thin coating is applied a half hour prior to getting dressed, there doesn't seem to be anything wiping off on my clothing.
I'm just a little concerned that since it is an oil, if it isn't acting too much as a sealant.

Here's another coconut oil deoderant recipe where it's combined with baking soda + cornstarch or arrowroot powder;

Ingredients:
5-6 Tbsp Coconut oil
1/4 cup baking soda
1/4 cup arrowroot powder or cornstarch
Combine equal portions of baking soda & arrowroot powder. Then slowly add coconut oil and work it in with a spoon until it maintains the substance you desire. It should be about the same texture as the store bought kind, solid but able to be applied easily. You can either scoop this into your old dispensers or place in a small container with lid and apply with fingers with each use. After applying the product, you can just rub the remains into your hands as a lotion! This recipe lasts about 3 months for two people with regular daily use.
https://www.passionatehomemaking.com/...deoderant.html
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Cookie, your recipe reminds me of my homemade toothpaste.

3 tablespoons baking soda
2 tablespoons coconut oil
If I feel like it - 5 drops spearmint essential oil.

I keep it in a closed container. I dip/scrape my toothbrush in it. The coconut oil is antibacterial, so it does not hurt to put the cleaned toothbrush in it. That recipe lasts for a month.
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coconut oil drys my skin out when I use it on my body and makes me thirsty when I eat it... and I like coconut, but have decided apparently it doesnt like me
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I bought a new zinc oxide based deosderant from NOW foods. gave me a horrible rash. The LAVLIN brand works fine.
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I tried using EVCO for around a week, although it smelled nice initially, it really didn't do the job deodorizing and it took a long time to soak in, before I could put on my shirt. I'm giving Tom's crystal confidence roll-on a try, citrus zest scent...so far, so good.
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[QUOTE I use something called lavlin. An israeli deoderant made from zinc oxide and calendula oil. It is pricey, but you apply it once very 5 days.[/QUOTE]

That stuff really works. We have used it since it came out. Life Extension has it. It may be cheaper elsewhere.

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guys & dolls,

Has anyone tried these? I'm about to take the plunge:

https://www.deodorantstones.com/
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I've been using Lafes natural/organic deodorant spray with Aloe Vera. Mineral salts eliminate odor-causing bacteria and the Aloe soothes and softens the skin. No Aluminum Chlorhydrate or Alcohol, fragrance free and hypoallergenic. Ozone friendly, non-staining, no animal testing. It works surprisingly well for a natural product.
I was checking out "Lafes" and one site listed this...Ingredients: Purified water (aqua), certified organic Aloe barbadensis (Aloe Vera) extract, Potassium alum (mineral salts)

Is the alum (mineral salts) bad for you...or not?
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I was checking out "Lafes" and one site listed this...Ingredients: Purified water (aqua), certified organic Aloe barbadensis (Aloe Vera) extract, Potassium alum (mineral salts)

Is the alum (mineral salts) bad for you...or not?
I occasionally use the mineral deodorant stone, so I went on a hunt via Google. I found this "expert" site. It answers the question about potassium alum, but does not satisfy the question of whether it is safe. I think that will be debated for a long time. I really think the quantity is small. It occurs in nature, nearly everywhere. I am hoping that it gets chelated easily from substances in our diet, being that it is such a small quantity.

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I have heard in the news about using deoderants with aluminum in them may be harmful. I did some research and found in my health food store a deoderant made form mineral salts. It does work well. After doing further reasearch, I found that the main ingrediant in this salt is Potassium Alum. They are called Thai deoderant stones. They state that this form is not absorbed into the skin and it is a natural "large part" of the ingredients. What I want to know is Potassium Alum really aluminum in disquise. Thanks, Gale

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First off, sorry for not getting back to you sooner.

Yes potassium alum contains aluminum. Alum is aluminum sulfate � Al2(SO4)3. Potassium alum is potassium aluminum sulfate � AlK(SO4)2. Now commercial products use aluminum chlorohydrate and other aluminum salts as antiperspirants. The concern is that there may be some link between high concentrations of aluminum in the system and certain ailments such as Alzheimer's disease. Also these antiperspirants work by plugging the pores and preventing perspiration, perspiration being a natural function many feel that it is not healthy to plug up your sweat glands. I think that the action here is antimicrobial. The alum salt prevents the growth of bacteria responsible for body odor, but it does not act as an antiperspirant.

But the question is, are you absorbing aluminum through your skin by using this product? Probably yes. Aluminum sulfate is fairly water soluble, probably more so than aluminum chlorohydrate. So if you are trying to avoid aluminum, this is not the way to go.

Keep in mind that there are many things in nature which are poisonous, just because something is natural doesn't necessarily make it safe.

Right now we are working on a calcium silicate additive which has deodorant properties and acts by neutralizing the organic acids responsible for body odor. It is not an antiperspirant, nor is it antimicrobial. We are marketing to the big manufaturers of persoal care products Proctor and Gamble, Colgate, etc. So, in a couple years, there may be an ideal product for you on the market. If you see a new deodorant and see synthetic calcium silicate on the ingredients, that's us.

In the meantime, I don't know what else to reccommend. My feeling is that the level of use is probably low enough that you reall don't need to worry about using the deodorant stone. But to answer your question, yes it does contain aluminum.

Good luck,

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Here is a list of chelating agents for aluminum.

https://www.vitawise.com/Nutritional_...20toxicity.htm

Calcium in the chelate form with magnesium
Garlic
Kelp
Lecithin
Vitamin B complex (especially B6)
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