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Old 06-06-2010, 05:04 AM
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I have not put on weight since using MMS either. Usually I would pile on a few pounds in the Winter months. Not this year. It does not seem to matter how much I eat, the weight stays the same.

I have used a few other treatments that could account for this, but I noticed this anomaly a few months after using MMS for six weeks.

I am not sure what causes it, but it seems to be a positive thing.

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Old 06-06-2010, 12:44 PM
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Hey guys..

Still having the random muscle twitching.. but its not all day or anything. Just started a few weeks ago along with dry mouth, dry skin, very little sweat even during intense exercise. Plus ive been drinking plenty of water.

I bought a glucose monitoring thing..

I tested twice.. once after a meal, my blood glucose was at 166 which is definitely too high, but then I tested it in the morning after fasting for 8 hours and it was down to 85-88 which is considered normal and not diabetic..

but clearly somethings not right with my blood sugar.. it shouldnt spike that high after a meal.. but its a good sign that its normal during fasting..

but in this book im reading it says its not good.. because 166 is high enough to cause diabetes complications, so if im eating 3 meals a day plus snacks my blood sugar might be in the diabetic range all day..

so im learning as much as I can about it.. gonna massively cut back on the carbs.. I already exercise a lot.. gotta heal this adrenal fatigue so my cortisol can regulate my blood sugar properly.. then do some things to heal my pancreas/liver/gut..
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Hi Moxsum,

I wouldn't worry too much about 166 right after a meal at this point.

In regards to craving carbs.... yeast infection I think contributes to craving carbs and there are indications that some prostatitis has a yeast factor.

If you get your carb ingestion down, replacing sugars and breads and pastas with veggie carbs I bet you will see that 166 number drop.

Olive leaf extract standardized to about 20% is what is required to decrease yeast and other parasites. But you should be taking one pill at least 2 times a day and probably for 6 months. I learned this through experience my friend had who was riddled with yeast and parasites. It took her 6 months to get things under control with olive leaf extract. With the biomeridian type testing she was having done we got to watch the pathogen load numbers drop continually over the 6 month period till they finally hit 0.
Some people report the mms will get rid of yeast, but in the testimonials but I often wonder if they did it long enough to get the job fully complete.

Then there is the concept that cancer is a fungus. And as whitnessed by Vern's story on curing his prostate cancer with sodium bicarb over the course of about 3 weeks or so that may be an option for the prostatitis if it indeed is a yeast issue. You can read his story here: https://phkillscancer.com/vernons_dance_with_cancer

ljea, I think that mms should go on a while longer with you to make sure all the parasites are gone, including their unhatched prodgeny. Also you have a family infestation at hand, so the risk of reinfection is a possibility for a time.
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Thank you jfh. I need all the sound advice I can get. I am really, really weak. I still can't believe this happened to me, or that I'm getting a new lease on life. I am forever in debt to Jim Humble and all of you who are helping me. Arrowwind has been instrumental in my recovery. It's hard to fathom (at first) that doctors are this inept... Anyway, thanks for your encouragement. I am off to the health food store!
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Hey..

Well im still waiting to see my General Practice doctor.. in 2 days.. Will ask her to check my kidney/liver and electrolyte levels..

It seems like it could be an electrolye imbalance.. I know this can occur with adrenal fatigue, plus I was exercising quite intesnely a few times without drinking enough water and I had an allergic reaction, thats when I had a few days of severe dry mouth, and I drank a lot of water but it didnt help.. then that seemed to get a bit better, then i had random muscle twitching around my body for a week or two, now its turned into a general feeling of weakness in my muscles, and I seem to have lost a few pounds..

Could this be an electrolyte imbalance?

I was taking a lot of magnesium around the time this started.. and since it started ive increased my intake of salt quite a bit..

Hoping my muscle strength will come back, that I will gain some more weight, and feel stronger .. I will keep everyone updated on what my doctor says..

I want to go see a naturopath or Ayurvedic/chinese doctor, but I suppose I will see what my western doctor has to say seeing as I havent had a checkup in 2 years.
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What a naturopath will find and what a conventional doctor will find may be like night and day. If you go to the conventional doc and have insurance get every test you possibly can including a D3 and B12, CRP, and Fibrolynic blood exam to test for clotting. (if you are over 50)... I forgot exactly what it is called then take all those results with you to the naturopath.
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Hey thanks Arrowwind.. im 23.. so.. def not 50 !

Yea im gonna ask her to do a really thorough checkup.. I wanna check my liver/kidney function, my glucose levels.. maybe do a urinalysis looking for protein, blood etc in urine.. test all my viatmin levels, electrolyte, metabolic..

Here are my new symptoms as of the past 3-4 weeks:
Dry mouth
Dry skin
Only sweating a tiny amount during intense exercise
Dry nose/mucous membranes
Occasional muscle twitching uncontrollably
Muscle weakness
Lost 5-6 pounds (which is a big deal as im already pretty skinny) went from like 125-128 to 119 in a few weeks
Bubbly urine
Felt some pain in my liver area the other night.. went away though

Hoping i dont have a kidney problem or something
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Are you an athlete Moxsum? Why would you be doing INTENSE exercising for an hour & a half? And with little water?

It probably wouldn't be a bad idea to journal what you eat during the day for a couple of weeks since your diet seems to be horrible. It can be a REAL eye opener. I know if I eat more than a half a cup of pasta or potatoes in one sitting, I'd be tired for three days after. Many times you can avoid hypoglycemia problems & fix fatigue merely by eating 5 small HEALTHY meals (protein, fat, active carb) daily. If you're not an athlete, pretend you are & become really intuned with how you're fueling your body.
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Hey there cookie..

Am I an athlete? well.. I have been training for years pretty intensely .. so I suppose you could say so. Ive always been in great shape and felt great with no health problems until this year..

My diet.. I always thought was good.. i never drank soda, didnt eat fast food or any candy/crap like that.. but it definitely wasnt quite right..

Im changing my diet quite a bit right now, cutting way back on the carbs and eating more organic meat etc.. more veggies..

I shouldnt have worked out that hard without drinking water.. but I was taking an Ayurveda class and the teacher said not to drink water during a workout.. but i think she ment if your just going for a jog or something, and I took it too literally and applied what she said to intense exercise for 90 minutes.. which clearly wasnt smart..

I dont know if that could have caused all these problems though..

But, I read that you need to replace electrolytes, not just drink water, cuz water will dilute your system even more and wash out more electrolytes... so maybe I got pretty dehydrated from the intense work out, then drank lots of water afterward which further depleted my body.. combine that with some intense mental stress/anxiety = problems.

Anyway, Im seein the Western doctor tomorrow.. I will let you guys know what she says.. probably will have to wait for the test results though.

The dyness/no sweat thing freaks me out though.. normally I sweat alot, like when im anxious, my palms get all sweaty etc.. but since this, my hands have been desert dry.. ????!!!
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Could I have too much salt/sodium in my system?

"Even in the case of serious lack of fresh water (e.g. at sea or in a desert), drinking seawater or urine does not help, nor does the consumption of alcohol. It is often thought that the sudden influx of salt into the body from seawater will cause the cells to dehydrate and the kidneys to overload and shut down but it has been calculated that an average adult can drink up to 0.1 litres of seawater per day before the kidneys start to fail [citation needed]"

I was rubbing magnesium oil all over my body for like a week or two when this started, and the magnesium has lots of salt in it, then I was also salting my food a lot and putting salt in my water as I heard it was good for adrenal fatigue.. maybe too much sodium? = kidney problems
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I think you might be on to something! Pays to hash things around a little cause it eventually jogs something in your memory.

As far as diet.. I always thought my diet was pretty clean. But boy was I wrong once I started keeping a journal and actually seeing where I was going wrong. Lol All I can say is you can't hide from yourself! My issue was consuming the correct foods to speed up my metabolism.
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ps. The only carbs I consume now are active carbs; fruit, veggies, brown rice, brown rice pasta, sweet potatoes and oatmeal (the long cooking type.) No sugar or white flour except on special occasions & dark chocolate.
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Yea.. im stickin with the low carb thing from now on.

Im scared... my digestion seems really messed up? Lately whenever I go to the bathroom for a BM I can see bits of food in it, and its not well formed.. its almost as if my body isnt properly digesting food .. which could explain the weakness etc.. maybe im not producing the enzymes or bile i need for some reason..

I was taking lots of digestive enzymes for a while and then stopped.. maybe my body got used to those free enzymes and stopped producing them.. or maybe my liver is overburdened from too many supplements.. aaaaaaaaa
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Oh gosh. It's good you stopped using all that stuff. My son is 20 and gets pulled into what I call 'peer pressure' supplements at the gym. Creatine, Nitric Oxide, protein. It's hard to stay away from all of it and just eat cleanly but hopefully he's listening to me now

You definitely need carbs @ each meal for energy. Just be careful of what type of carbs you're eating, make it a game to get as much nutritional value out of each meal. Good nutrition helps the cells that are replacing themselves in your body become the strongest cells you can make!

Water is the most important thing for cell communication....

For instance a menu for a day might look like~

Meal 1
1/2 c 5 minute oatmeal with 1 tsp coconut oil & cinnamon
1 egg, 3 tsp egg whites scrambled, cooked in olive oil

Meal 2
orange
protein shake
1/8 c nuts

Meal 3
large salad
chicken salad on whole gritty-grain bread

Meal 4
3/4 c kefir
1 c mixed berries
1/8c walnuts

Meal 5
fish
1/2 c brown rice
broccoli drizzled with cheddar cheese
small salad

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Hey guys.. well I got some results back from the doctor..

So far all is good.. normal kidney, liver, pancreas.. apparently my cortisol was normal as well as prolactin (which had been high before).. still skeptical about that though.. i feel like my adrenals are whacked, dunno how my cortisol could be normal, she didnt give me a number and it just was a random one time test not 24 hour.

Apparently my blood sugar was normal as well, at 78, and my hba1c was 5.3.

Also, my electrolytes were normal.. (i was sure that would be messed up)

The only thing she mentioned was a somewhat low blood platelet count at 135. They are looking at this more though, gonna look at them under a microscope.

So this is great news.. but also confusing? I still feel like ive lost weight, and my mouth, skin has been really dry.. ?

Were still waiting on more results though, I will keep everyone updated..
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