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Every so often I have slight pain in the lower right part of my intestine. I first experienced it 10 years ago. I don't know if it's coming from my appendix or my intestine. I was thinking of doing a castor oil pack on it but am uncertain if the heat would be problematic. I do have constipation and have since I was a child. I also wonder if it is diverticulitis?

I was hoping someone had experience or ideas to help this area of my body heal or release what needs to be released.

I wish enemas and suppositories were fine to take for as long as you need them but I read they will cause the intestines to become lazy and not function on their own. Unfortunately, mine don't seem to work well on their own anyway. lol

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Old 11-28-2010, 09:03 AM
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Funny you should mention this as I have the same thing.

Mine has been going on for about 7 or 8 years... one natuorpath said I was heading for appendicitis but I have been able to ward it off. This past month I have had another bout and I have decided that it is more akin to irritable bowel disease. I never have diarrhea and constitpation only very occassional if my diet gets out of wack.

Many people have derrangement in the cecum area of the colon and parasites and microbes will harbor there over other areas and what we are experiencing is not to unsusual. Usually it is treated with an antibiotic like cipro.. but I think those kind of drugs will set you up for further problems down the road.

I have used 3 different natural medicines to keep it at bay.

The first I used was grapefruit seed extract (GSE) in pill or capsule form. This keeps it away for me for about 6 months then I have to repeat.

Then next I used ozone therapy and this was good for about a year. I used it transdermally over the cecum. I tried that this time and enthusastically used too high a dose that caused a skin rash that lasted about two weeks so I went on to something else

Right when mms came on the market it was starting up again and I did three weeks of mms at 15 drops 3xday... this kept it away for 3 years.

This current bout I have been dealing with has been the worst with pain more severe in the cecum and inflammation going all the way up to the spleenic flexure. I have since developed quite an adversion to mms and couldnt manage to get anymore than about 4 doses down me without wanting to vomit with just thinking of it.

I have returned to the GSE and it is working well but since this has been the worst case with inflammation I have been taking serrapeptase too and that really knocked down the inflammation quickly. Today I am left with just slight discomfort right at the cecum..

What I consider the removal phase is almost done... I think this is an invasion of some kind of microbe into the intestinal wall, if its candida or what I have no clue. Since all these medicines work on a variety of pathogens I have no way to determine for sure, but candida is the most likely suspect... although I have no symtpoms of leaky gut at this time. Because antibiotics ward off this conditon for the average person it makes me wonder about candida though as antibiotics don't work on candida... it still could be an underlaying issue, causing gut dysbiosis.. with over growth of bad bacterias overlaying the candida.

In a day or two I will commence with what I call the restore phase.. I have ordered two months of VSL#3. they have two products, a 450 billion packet and a 225 billion pill of probiotic microbes. I ordered the pills, largely due to cost. 60 pills is cheaper than 30 packets, giving the benefit of being able to adjust the dosage and hopefully I will need less than more. Studies have shown that this product can CURE some cases of irritable bowel.

After I do two months of this stuff I am hoping to be able to continue with a less expensive probiotic product like Culturell or something.

Now we have a member here on the forum who has had crohns and he got great results with MMS also essentially eliminating his symtoms.. but he felt that he had to go the Low Dose Naltrexone route... a medicine that will modulate the immune system and keep the inflammation down I suspect... perhaps he will chime in here.

I am finding the serrapepatse to be excellent for the inflammation at two pills a day one in am and one in pm.

I also think that eating bread may have contributed to this recent flair.. I've been making homemade ww bread but likely eating way too much of it for my own good.

If you get into taking a probiotic be sure to eat inulin providing foods or get an inulin supplement. This feeds the good microbes and will help to establish a colony.

I really doubt you have diverticulitis. The cecum is not an area that it usually manefests typically, although nothing is impossible. Castor oil packs may be worth a try if it is not too severe. You must deal with that consitipation and change your diet what ever way you need to to get rid of it. Ground flax seed works for me, homemade yogurt and lots of veggies. A good probiotic will help too.
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If you think it is fungal or viral, here is something else you can try. Pau d'arco.

https://www.paudarco.org/

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Clinical studies also showed strong in vitro activity against various other bacteria, fungi and yeast, including: Aspergillus, Staphylococcus aureus, Streptococcus, Helicobacter pylori (common cause of stomach ulcers), Bucella, tuberculosis, pneumonia, and dysentery.


Antiviral properties have been displayed in vitro by Pau d'Arco against viruses such as: herpes I and II, influenza, polio virus and vesicular stomatitis virus.

Pau d'Arco is also confirmed as being an antiparisitic against various parasites, including: malaria, schistosoma, and trypanosoma. Additionally, the herb has even demonstrated usefulness as an anti-inflammatory.
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I did a colon cleanse not too long ago with Dr. Group's Oxypowder.

It wasn't that of an bad experience at all. It is a pill that binds oxygen to magnesium and when it hits the intestine it slowly releases oxygen liquefying and turning to gas the compacted feces trapped around the lining of the intestines. The only unpleasant thing is that it causes several liquid, diarrhea like stools the next day. They have a page on Dr. Group's site with a questionnaire that determines if you could benefit from a colon cleanse.

This is a cheap, convenient alternative to explore before doing anything more drastic. If you have been constipated since youth, you probably have already racked up significant damage from keeping your food waste and toxins inside you for long periods, overburdening your colon and liver.
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In my case, the lower right quadrant is one place where my Crohn's disease was active. The terminal ilium is located there, and on occasion, I can still feel some sensation in that area.

I used MMS as a Crohn's treatment, and it did bring me out of my post operative flare. I do not know if it specifically made this area better or not, but it certainly did calm down the rest of my intestinal tract.

There are many possible pathogens, so I would recommend a broad spectrum treatment of some kind. MMS does not kill everything either, but by using a few different products, I think you should be able to improve the condition.

Coconut oil is one super safe thing you could try as its anti-bacterial and anti-fungal properties may be able to reduce any infection. I suspect it would take quite a bit of it to work though.

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That looks like it may be a good product. I have used the original Homozon which is about the same. It is a great product and I often forget about it.
Dr Blass developed this concept of ozone bound to magnesium for oral intake in 1839. It was the first oxidative therapy I ventured into.
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So it seems that most people think it's some microbe of some sort. I guess that makes sense. What else could it be? Lack of circulation? Nah.

A few days ago I began taking swedish bitters extract in an alcohol base. I wonder if this aggravated things in my colon.

No one suggested an enema with garlic or the grapefruit seed extract. Wouldn't that get right to the problem? Then do a high dose probiotic enema the next day or so? I don't know.

Arrowwind09, how often did you take gse? I have the liquid form and it tastes terrible!!! Maybe I'll go with the Pau de Arco tea instead. lol Your plan of restoring the good bacteria is a good idea. I do wonder when I eat raw garlic if it kills the good microbes too and if I should be taking a probiotic to reestablish things.

The body is so complex. You mess with one thing and it affects another but this can be for the positive too so I'll be optimistic.

Coconut oil - yum.

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Im feeling better but not done yet. I have switched back to the MMS over the last 3 days.. barely a twinge in the cecum today.. yet still there. Have to keep at it and I'm still taking the serrapeptase too.

always when there is an infection continue with treatment for at least three days after the symptoms are fully gone. You can still have pathogens there at a low level that you are not feeling that can come back at you.

Now last time I had this problem I did mms for 3 weeks for a 3 year good time with no symptoms. Symptom free for 3 years. I wonder if it would have been better if I did mms for longer...?

I can't tell you how much I dread taking mms. I gag just thinking about it... but here I go. Time for my dose.

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Thrasymachus, Did the Oxypower cleanse cost $138.95?

Arrowwind09, I hate the thought of there being an infection there but it is what it is. I drank a cup of calendula flower tea with wormwood and it tasted NASTY! I'll be doing it again tonight. I'll do it again tomorrow then maybe I'll go to the MMS.
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No way would I do wormwood in a tea! Yuck!

I have done an extensive wormwood cleanse in the past, all in capsules. There are some things to know about it, especially the need to rotate it with other herbs to kill the parasites most efficiently.. Hulda Clark has the protocol

I had a very bad day with mms. As I said I have developed an adversion to it and Its difficult to control the gagging even before I drink it... so after a few days of using it I returned to Grapefruit seed extract. The colon issue seems resolved now.. but I am still taking the serrapeptase and GSE until the VSL#3 arrives.. it is taking a long time.. but I got a note in my mailbox yesterday that it is waiting for me in the post office.

Tuesday I have my interview with a medical doctor who does UVB therapy. So one of my questions to him will be if UVB helps inflammatory bowel disease. I spent time this week reading though literature on UVB that I've had and I had really forgotten at how impressive the work could be for treating infections of many types. And my biggest question to him will be if it can treat candida...

With irritable bowel the causes can be multi faceted and all causes may not apply in each case. What you will need to do will depend on how well you can manage it at home with simple things... I know that there is an underlying infection issue in my case becasue of what makes it better. I think If it had a strong immune system dysfunction issue I would have more frequent problems than I do, like repeatedly all the time the way many people do. In that case I would look at Low Dose Naltrexone as part of the treatment plan. An antimicrobial would still be required at least for a time with that too.. at I would stay away from antibiotics if possible, using alternatives instead until things even out.. These people with such bowel disorders get pumped to the hilt with antibiotics which eventually lead them into other complications and can make candida issues, or c-dif, or other issuess come to the forfront on top of everything else.
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