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My mom's bld test came back showing a bld ph of 8. What can I do to help her take it to ph 7.4? I'm looking to do it naturally w/ diet or supplements. Thanks a million!
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Do you know what brought this on? Is she a vegetarian? Alkalized water? A lot of stress?

This means that minerals are not metabolizing properly. At least, that is one problems. To start with, it would be good for her to drink some water that has a tablespoon of apple cider vinegar and take some multimineral supplement. The multiminerals will have some alkalizing ones, like magnesium, potassium, calcium, and sodium, however they will also contain acid forming ones too. Zinc is especially good, as it will help the stomach to produce acid which will help the digestion process. This will help to bring the pH back into balance.

Drink plenty of water. This will reduce the strain on the kidneys, which will help to bring the body's pH back into balance. Pure water is a pH of 7.

Diet helps, but she may not be able to control the pH through diet. What matters is that she may not be digesting or metabolizing food properly. The minerals will help. The apple cider vinegar may help with poor stomach acid, and therefor help with digestion.
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A pH of 8 and she would be dead. The lab tech screwed up or something was wrong with the instrument used or something else. 7.5, 7.6 there are problems, 7.7 you are seriously sick 7.8 and above you cannot survive for long.
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Severe alkalosis (when blood pH is more than 8) can also lead to death, as it often happens during last days or hours of life in most people who are chronically and terminally ill. I don't trust most of these tests. Irregular readings can occur when fasting was not accomplished, or hyper-ventilation happened during the test. Never the less the high reading indicates that there may be alkalosis.
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Hello Jimmy. A blood ph of 8? I had to double check that, seems extraordinarily high.
Is your dear mother by any chance purposely on an alkaline rich diet i.e. to combat an acid state, as suffered by arthritis sufferers?
Is she a big fan of bicarbonate of soda? BoS is the hottest thing on the natural cancer treatments scene right now. It is wonderful stuff, in the right context, but like everything it needs to be respected and used appropiately.

The acid:alkaline balance and its imbalance as cause of degenerative diseases is something 'we' are becoming more and more aware of, but as I always say, it's not a case of good guy, bad guy. They're both good guys! The problem is the average Western diet is way too acidic. The solution, at least in the long term, is not to super blast the system with high alkaline foods, but to be aware of the acid:alkaline content of the foods you eat so as to strike a healthy balance.

Here's a useful website that may be of help
https://www.happyherbalist.com/alkaline_acid_balance.htm

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Do you know what brought this on? Is she a vegetarian? Alkalized water? A lot of stress?

This means that minerals are not metabolizing properly. At least, that is one problems. To start with, it would be good for her to drink some water that has a tablespoon of apple cider vinegar and take some multimineral supplement. The multiminerals will have some alkalizing ones, like magnesium, potassium, calcium, and sodium, however they will also contain acid forming ones too. Zinc is especially good, as it will help the stomach to produce acid which will help the digestion process. This will help to bring the pH back into balance.

Drink plenty of water. This will reduce the strain on the kidneys, which will help to bring the body's pH back into balance. Pure water is a pH of 7.

Diet helps, but she may not be able to control the pH through diet. What matters is that she may not be digesting or metabolizing food properly. The minerals will help. The apple cider vinegar may help with poor stomach acid, and therefor help with digestion.
Good post Jim. Though I'm wondering about the logic for using apple cider vinegar?
Here in England, apple cider vinegar is an old folk remedy for arthritis, which of course is due to an acid state. Whilst it (ACV) goes in acid, it burns alkaline...So that might be counterproductive in this instance.
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I mentioned apple cider vinegar, because it contains ascetic acid and can help the low stomach acid. My personal choice would be TMG, but it may not be as easy to find than apple cider vinegar. Even then, this is temporary until the stomach can be well enough to produce its own acid. The use of zinc and the B vitamins can then help promote the acid. It is a vicious cycle. Zinc is required to help produce the acid, but zinc cannot work without acid.

Now please don't take this personal Knight. It is my own personal opinion that this "alkaline ash" theory is just a theory and a bunch of hooey. Not even junk science. Just garbage. Sure, you can put such a food as apple cider vinegar in a furnace where the result will be alkaline ash. Other foods as well. It means that magnesium, potassium, or other alkaline minerals are left over. However, this is not at all what happens in the body. The body has several methods to metabolize these foods and minerals. Foods that contain a large quantity of these minerals can surely affect digestion, especially magnesium, but apple cider vinegar is not one of them.
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I mentioned apple cider vinegar, because it contains ascetic acid and can help the low stomach acid. My personal choice would be TMG, but it may not be as easy to find than apple cider vinegar. Even then, this is temporary until the stomach can be well enough to produce its own acid. The use of zinc and the B vitamins can then help promote the acid. It is a vicious cycle. Zinc is required to help produce the acid, but zinc cannot work without acid.

Now please don't take this personal Knight. It is my own personal opinion that this "alkaline ash" theory is just a theory and a bunch of hooey. Not even junk science. Just garbage. Sure, you can put such a food as apple cider vinegar in a furnace where the result will be alkaline ash. Other foods as well. It means that magnesium, potassium, or other alkaline minerals are left over. However, this is not at all what happens in the body. The body has several methods to metabolize these foods and minerals. Foods that contain a large quantity of these minerals can surely affect digestion, especially magnesium, but apple cider vinegar is not one of them.
No, dear Jim, don't give it another thought, I certainly won't take it personally. These old English remedies are getting rubbished and derided all the time, no doubt the American ones do too, but they stand the test of time for a reason.
I've never had arthritis so cannot personally vouch for its alkalizing effect, but as I mentioned it has been a trusted folk remedy here for hundreds of years.
We can agree to disagree on this one.
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COOL This is how disagreements should be discussed on a baord like this: Kudos to both Knight and JFH.
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These old English remedies are getting rubbished and derided all the time, no doubt the American ones do too, but they stand the test of time for a reason.
I've never had arthritis so cannot personally vouch for its alkalizing effect, but as I mentioned it has been a trusted folk remedy here for hundreds of years.
I think it is sad that people have given up on old remedies. Apple cider vinegar is the closest you can get to a miracle in the alternative and complementary world. It has been around for ages. https://www.innvista.com/health/foods...s/appcider.htm
Check out the benefits.
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