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Old 05-14-2011, 12:12 PM
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I was just at the dentist and he removed a tooth that had a broken crown on it (I've had it that way for at least a year or two) and the area got infected. They prescribed some antibiotics and i would like to avoid them at all costs. They insist that I need them because it was a bad infection.

What can likely happen if I avoid them? Are there any alternatives? I'm just not a fan of the pharmaceutical industry and the doctor/pharmaceutical relationships.
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What can likely happen if I avoid them? Are there any alternatives?
The oral cavity is inhabited by over 500 different bacterial species. Obviously I've no idea which bacteria are causing the infection in you mouth.

However If you have some vitamin D to hand you could give yourself a MEGADOSE the amounts required for dealing with a flu infection are set out here I am not promising they will sort out your tooth infection but we do know that low vitamin d status is associated with both gingivitis and periodontal disease so it's likely the at the bacteria that thrive in the oral cavity are inhibited by vitamin d. You'll need a supply of 50,000iu D3 if you search for BIOTECH you should find a cheaper supply than direct from the makers.

As well as the Vitamin D stoss therapy you could try OIL PULLING. Virgin Coconut Oil has anti biotic properties and if you did this 3 times daily it will help protect your oral cavity by reducing pathogenic bacteria. Perhaps 5 times daily would be best, Once when you wake up, then after breakfast. after lunch after dinner then before bed.

Drinking Green tea is an add on extra anti microbial treatment. I doubt on it's own it will do much to deal with a severe infection but combined with the Mega D3, Coconut oil pulling, it's a useful extra.

If you've any curcumin and/or resveratrol both of these have anti e coli/staph properties so are anti microbial agents. The more varied approaches you deploy the more chances you have to zap the pathogenic bacteria.I'd take one of each morning and night.

You may also want to apply live yoghurt as regularly as possible. It has the ability to smother some pathogenic bacteria thereby killing them.

there a possibility that garlic would help

If you've any IOSOL or iodoral iodine about that may also have an antibiotic effect if you used it as a mouthwash several times through the day.

Remember these are all working at killing or inhibiting pathogenic bacteria by different routes, so it's not a try one then try the next scenario it's the kitchen sink approach try all as and when available and if they all fail get the prescribed anti biotic and use that and rebuild your friendly gut flora with a probiotic and live yoghurt for the next few months.
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Nice answer, thanks! Anyway, my health insurance doesn't kick in for a month and the medicine isn't too expensive, but I just spoke to my father who recently had Sixteen (yes - SIXTEEN) total teeth pulled out and did not take any medication and has been doing fine. I'm gonna give nature a shot I won't know until I try, right? I think what keeps people buying a lot of these medications is the fear that they could end up much worse off if they avoid the antibiotics. Here I go!
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As well as the Vitamin D stoss therapy you could try OIL PULLING. Virgin Coconut Oil has anti biotic properties and if you did this 3 times daily it will help protect your oral cavity by reducing pathogenic bacteria. Perhaps 5 times daily would be best, Once when you wake up, then after breakfast. after lunch after dinner then before bed.

You may also want to apply live yoghurt as regularly as possible. It has the ability to smother some pathogenic bacteria thereby killing them.
Ted, would you suggest spitting out the coconut oil afterwards or swallowing? Also, with applying yogurt would you do that at times when you haven't used the coconut oil. I'm a bit confused with the timing of using probiotics while taking antibacterials like oregano, coconut oil, grapefruit seed extract, iodine, etc. I certainly don't want to be killing the probiotics before they can get to the area in the gut that would benefit from them. Why eat yogurt if you're eating some garlic with it?
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This article is very worrying because it shows you could be carrying infection that the tests don't identify and which are also resistant to the normal run of antibiotics.
The strategy that's I use. keeping Vitamin D3 status high, drinking GREEN TEA, using curcumin, resveratrol together with the regular use of garlic and coconut oil, in fact everything that is known to inhibit the proliferation of pathogenic bacteria while encouraging the use and development of friendly probiotics and prebiotics to ensure the good bacteria can control the gut flora and immune function seems to be justified.
Contagious health Dr Art Ayers seems to have the right idea.
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Once I had to take antibiotics for a week because of a teeth infection. The dentist told me to take something to protect my stomach because the antibiotics are strong. I did so, but still, I suffered for about a year of stomachaches due to the antibiotics. And the teeth infection appeared again. The antibiotics helped, but they did not cure. It depends!
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Tooth infections can be very dangerous, it makes no sense to avoid antibiotics in your case, IMO.
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Tooth infections can be very dangerous, it makes no sense to avoid antibiotics in your case, IMO.
Overuse of Antibiotics Spurs Vicious Cycle
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Patients who are over-prescribed antibiotics may develop drug resistance that lasts up to a year. This puts both them and the larger population at risk.

The more antibiotics are prescribed for coughs and flu-like illnesses, the more bacteria become resistant in a vicious cycle.

According to Reuters:

"Medical experts say overuse of antibiotics in Europe, the United States and other wealthy regions is building widespread resistance in and threatening vital medical treatments from hip replacements and cancer therapies, to intensive care."
Mercola has plenty more to say on the overuse of antibiotics.

I appreciate the point that where necessary antibiotics are a sensible option however building up natural resistance to infection by improving immune function (correcting vitamin D status) is a sensible way to reduce the number of colds/flu attacks you get, similarly the use of coconut oil, green tea, curcumin and resveratrol, garlic, reduce the populations of pathogenic bacteria while enhancing the friendly gut flora. Keeping your immune function operating at a lower level normally gives it a greater impact when it is deployed full force.

What we find in lots of chronic conditions is an underlying level of chronic infection and keeping your system as clean as possible from Candida, H Pylori, e coli, Staph A, is simply common sense. I think if we all followed the above regime we would be better able to cope with the antibiotic resistant strains of bacteria that are present in much of our industrially processed meat.
We have to be aware that a course of antibiotics will probably wipe out our friendly gut flora as well as the pathogenic strains and that will take a lot of rebuilding.

That said I'd still antibiotics if I felt they were necessary.

But if I thought my body was beating the bugs (with the aid of the above strategies) then I may delay going to the GP initially but I would NOT wait if I thought things were deteriorating.
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By far the best thing to take for infection is Vitamin C. Lots of it.
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Also use mms 1 as a oral rinse. flush and spit. If infection gets imbedded into the jaw or gums take orally as told on www.jimbumble.biz
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Sorry guys forgot to update you all!

Thank God, I avoided the antiobotics, as well as any pain killers. I was completely fine. This was the case for my father and I both (he has avoided it several times). Follow your heart, but if you're worried, go ahead and take them.
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Sorry guys forgot to update you all!

Thank God, I avoided the antiobotics, as well as any pain killers. I was completely fine. This was the case for my father and I both (he has avoided it several times). Follow your heart, but if you're worried, go ahead and take them.
Thanks for the update bascotie! Good advice regarding taking them, but we all agree...best to avoid.
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