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This info is from https://www.anh-usa.org/how-sweet-it-...and-deception/ The whole article is interesting, but this highlight, regarding fructose caught my attention.

Fructose
is commonly thought of as “fruit sugar,” but fruit also contains glucose—and fiber, sometimes a great deal of it, not to mention other nutrients. But studies indicate that fructose, processed and stripped of its co-factors, causes metabolic syndrome in animals. The metabolic processes involved in the breakdown of fructose can lead to a buildup of uric acid—which is a risk factor for cardiovascular disease. Fructose can raise blood triglyceride levels, which can trigger atherosclerosis, increases fat deposits around the viscera, and decreases insulin sensitivity in overweight people.

As Dr. David G. Williams writes in his Alternatives newsletter,
Cancer cells thrive on sugars, particularly fructose. It has been demonstrated that cancer cells actually metabolize glucose and fructose differently from other cells. While cancer thrives on both, it uses fructose specifically to proliferate. It’s no wonder that cancer has moved quickly up the list of killers in our society since we started adding high-fructose corn syrup to everything from sodas to bread. With such damning and irrefutable research, I still don’t understand why it hasn’t become standard practice to immediately put cancer patients on fructose-free diets to help disrupt cancer growth.

Agave, which is derived from the agave cactus (which also produces tequila), sounds like an ideal alternative, but some health advocates like Dr. Joseph Mercola have some serious concerns about it, and say its acceptance is the result of deceptive marketing.They say that most of the agave sweeteners you find on supermarket shelves are not natural products and are not organic. What is clear is that it is not low-calorie and does not have a low glycemic index. It is 50% to 90% fructose.
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Do be aware that Dementia is a greater danger than cancer.
Alzheimer’s disease is the sixth-leading cause of death in the United States.
• The number of Americans that die each year from Alzheimer’s disease has risen 66 percent since 2000.
• Each year, Alzheimer’s kills more Americans than breast and prostate cancer combined.
• Alzheimer’s is the only disease in the top 10 causes of death in America without a way to prevent it, cure it or slow its progression.
• Death rates for other major diseases, including the number-one cause of death (heart disease), have declined — thanks to the government’s commitment to research

While of course we should be concerned about reducing the risk of cancer I think the prospect of spending a considerable period of time at the end of our lives suffering dementia is far more scary.

Increased fructose intake as a risk factor for dementia.
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The transition in the world age demographic toward older age is associated with an increased risk of neurodegenerative diseases, such as Alzheimer's disease. Risk profiles for dementia may also be changing. Obesity and type 2 diabetes have increased in prevalence in the last half-century and have been associated with increased dementia risk. Specific changes in nutrition may also represent a direct risk.
A diet transition in the United States has occurred in the intake of refined sugar, particularly high-fructose corn syrup (HFCS) from a yearly estimate of 8.1 kg/person at the beginning of the XIX century to a current estimate of 65 kg/person.
Reemphasizing the Role of Fructose Intake as a Risk Factor for Dementia
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These levels of fructose intake have been shown to induce metabolic impairments in humans. A dietary intake of fructose between 17% and 20% of total energy intake has been associated with an increased risk of the development of insulin resistance and dyslipidemia (7–9). A recent definition of excessive fructose intake proposed a cutoff of 50 mg/day. This is based on a prevalence of obesity greater than 10% in populations where fructose intake exceeds this amount (10). The results in Table 1 therefore suggest that a large portion of the U.S. population could be exposed to an excessively high dietary intake of fructose.
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Since the publication of our manuscript more has been written on this topic in support of the hypothesis that the sweetening effects of fructose are likely to induce addictive consumption behaviors
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These studies do suggest a link between fructose and neurodegeneration. The results suggest that dementia risk could be mediated by the indirect metabolic effects associated with high fructose intake.
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FRUCTOSE AS A RISK FACTOR FOR DEMENTIA

As with many other nutritional factors, fructose is a potential risk factor for dementia. The body of evidence now available suggests that it would be prudent to investigate this potential association as a matter of urgency as such research is needed to inform public health recommendations for governments, which may have implications for the healthy aging of our populations far into the future.

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JFH Awesome post! And people should realize that table sugar is half fructose, so if you have cancer: no sugar.
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So should we really have a couple of helpings of fruit daily? Yes, probably so. The fibers, which are also provided by fruit, cause the fructose to be utilized even slower.
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So should we really have a couple of helpings of fruit daily? Yes, probably so. The fibers, which are also provided by fruit, cause the fructose to be utilized even slower.
I think the main concern is refined sugar, particularly high-fructose corn syrup (HFCS) but there is a huge market for fruit juices and smoothies that are presented as equal to whole fruit. I think anything that helps you consume a lot of calories very quickly is not a good idea.
Our supermarkets now sell orange segments to save the hassle of peeling an orange, ready sliced apples/grapes etc. We really have got to try to slow down the rate at which calories are consumed and encourage the consumer to expend a few calories practising the skills and eye/hand coordination required to get it from table to mouth.
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So should we really have a couple of helpings of fruit daily? Yes, probably so. The fibers, which are also provided by fruit, cause the fructose to be utilized even slower.

Yup, but as the fruit. Not as the juice.
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Ted, in the states all apple juice concentrate comes from china and I keep asking myself, what do they put into it.
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Ted, in the states all apple juice concentrate comes from china and I keep asking myself, what do they put into it.
The only way you could be certain about the apple content of apple juice is to juice your own apples and frankly I believe you are better off eating whole fruit and not juiced fruit. Anyone whose tried juicing will know how much fruit is required to produce 1 liter of juice and to consume that much fruit as whole fruit would take ages if you had to eat them normally.
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Dietary fructose intake is increasing. It is increasing primarily from added sugars, including sucrose and high fructose corn syrup, and correlates epidemiologically with the rising prevalence of metabolic syndrome and hypertension worldwide.
The administration of fructose to animals and humans increases BP and the development of metabolic syndrome.
These changes occur independently of caloric intake because of the effect of fructose on ATP depletion and uric acid generation.
Fructose ingestion may also be a risk factor for kidney disease that includes glomerular hypertension, renal inflammation, and tubulointerstitial injury in animals.
We suggest excessive fructose intake should be considered an environmental toxin with major health implications.
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The latest research on AD reckons the insulin levels from the pancreas are not linked to the brain, which generates its own seperate insulin levels, which are linked to AD. Type 3 diabetes?

https://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4315609.stm
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The only way you could be certain about the apple content of apple juice is to juice your own apples and frankly I believe you are better off eating whole fruit and not juiced fruit. Anyone whose tried juicing will know how much fruit is required to produce 1 liter of juice and to consume that much fruit as whole fruit would take ages if you had to eat them normally.
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The other reeason to juice your own apples would be to get LIVE enzymes also.
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The other reeason to juice your own apples would be to get LIVE enzymes also.
But my point is that eating the apple would provide the same enzymes and you would be using your own energy, muscles and digestive system to reduce the apple to juice.
Using a machine and producing fibre waste that you are not going to consume creates wasted energy. Sure if you juice 3 fresh apples for me and offer it to me I will drink it and enjoy it BUT I think it would be better for my health (though probably not as tasty) to have eaten those whole apples myself and exercise my jaws, had an impact on my oral health, produced a greater fibre intake to the gut, provided more substance for friendly gut flora to thrive on and generally have a better impact on my whole digestive system. I also think the "hit" on blood glucose produced from the 3 apples juiced is likely, if repeated regularly during the day (I do like the idea of you juicing fresh apples for me throughout the day and I know your a very kind person) this eventually speeds up the development of metabolic syndrome.

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I never really understood why so many people would prefer juice to the original substance. Although, once upon a time I help some people with an apple press. We pressed a lot of apples, worms, wasps and all. Remarkably good apple juice and great laxative. Then comes the cider. Now I understand.

But I don't get all those bottled juices with that HFCS to poison them.
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Fructose is a poison, as explained here by Robert H. Lustig M.D.

Professor of Pediatrics, University of California:

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