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Has anyone looked into the Italian Oncologist claim that cancer is nothing more than fungus?
This oncologist, after watching several young children die from cancers, started to experiment with pharm grade baking soda, and started shrinking tumors, thus curing patients.

Mainstream medicine has since claimed this doctor is a quack, however, that is normal for mainstream medicine. Long story short, this doctor is almost right. That is, most cancers are fungus.

Cancer that is caused by ionized radiation, such as from xrays, mammograms, ct scans, etc., is not a fungus. Also, cancers caused by vaccines and/or pesticides is also not a fungus.

The majority of cancers are caused by vitamin/nutrient deficiency, which results in a yeast or fungal infection. If left untreated for many years, and is fueled by antibiotics, steroids, and sugar, this fungus grows til it kills the host.

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Glucose metabolism in cancer cells.
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PURPOSE OF REVIEW:
Cancer cells alter their metabolism in order to support their rapid proliferation and expansion across the body.
In particular, tumor cells, rather than fueling glucose in the oxidative phosphorylation pathway, generally use glucose for aerobic glycolysis.
In this review, we discuss some of the mechanisms thought to be responsible for the acquisition of a glycolytic phenotype in cancer cells and how the switch towards glycolysis represents a selective growth advantage.
RECENT FINDINGS:
Glucose deprivation can activate oncogenes and these can upregulate proteins involved in aerobic glycolysis.
In turn, proteins implicated in increased glycolysis can render tumor cells more resistant to apoptosis.
Aerobic glycolysis induces acidification of the tumor environment, favoring the development of a more aggressive and invasive phenotype.
Altering the pH around tumors might represent a way to hamper tumor development as suggested by a recent work demonstrating that bicarbonate, which increases the pH of tumors, prevented spontaneous metastatization.

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The acquisition of a glycolytic phenotype by transformed cells confers a selective growth advantage to these cells.
Interfering with aerobic glycolysis, therefore, represents a potentially effective strategy to selectively target cancer cells.
Cancer as a metabolic disease goes into the role of cancer cell metobolism in greater detail. remember coconut oil is anti fungal and is a good source of Medium chain Triglycerides that promote the burning of ketones thereby reducing need for glucose. They are also appetite suppressing so make it easier to lose weight and restrict calories (calorie restriction is also ketogenic) both these strategies lead to mitochondiral biogenisis (production of new healthy mitochondria) and reduce the defective mitchondrial mutations that allow cancer progression

I found using this
Recipe for Magnesium/Bicarbonate Water was a quick easy way to change the acid/alkali balance of my urine.
Mark Sircus has good information on magnesium, cancer, baking soda

Sodium Bicarbonate and Cancer Treatment - Mark Sircus, Ac., OMD
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We have two people posting what they believe to be factual.

I think we can agree that fungi and �cancer� are linked but the last two comments are pure speculation and theory cultivated by alternative and western medicine beliefs and not what I was looking for when starting this topic.

First of all, before cures for cancer can be accepted we need to remove the word "cancer" there is no valid scientific understanding or explanation for "cancer", if there were the cure would be available already. Dismiss �cancer� because it is fiction from start to finish.

When you know what is broke you can fix it. Any information that does not lead to a consistent cure is only theory. Using coconut oil to cure or treat fungus is absolutely simple to prove false. If it were anything more than a theory it would consistently cure jock itch, athletes foot, psoriasis and dandruff. It doesn't. It very well might offer relief by keeping the infected skin from drying out but it will not kill fungus or help the body kill fungus unless the person using it creates an IMMUNE RESPONSE which could be done if they believe enough in drinking urine enough.

If a poison or toxin is the blame for anything that resembles the conditions know as "cancer" it will be something that cannot be cured because the chemical would enter the person and cause the damage and then be removed by the lymphatic system. That would mean no cure for it.

However because the body does not attack itself or create harmful cells and if someone did not permanently destroy their cells or tissues with a toxin or chemical it leaves only pathogens as the killer known as "cancer" and I think we can all agree that fungus is likely to blame but damned if I am going to let people jump on the fungus bus just to hear themselves talk without really knowing what can be cured and what cannot.

The human immune system does not care if "cancer" or any diseases is theoretically called a metabolic disease. Giving diseases names, explanations and excuses has not brought us any closer to curing them consistently.

I moved over to general discussion for the sole purpose of helping anyone looking for consistent means of curing diseases to join in a discussion. Before someone can become consistent at curing disease they are going to have to wade through the shenanigans and gimmicks of medicine. They are going to have to stop following the trails that do not lead to consistent cures. They are going to have to stop talking to hear themselves talk.

They are going to have to want to replace their pride with knowledge and cures. If this offends people so be it. I don�t want to hurt feelings but I don�t want my topics to become saturated with the very miss-beliefs that are directly responsible for cure appearing to be so elusive. Cures are simple and unrelated to medicine and foods. Foods are for energy and the human body can turn just about any calorie into energy.
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No such thing as a drug-resistant candida. That is a medical excuse, not a fact. Right now as you sit you have many types of fungus, candida likely being the most harmless of them all.

Clearly you are highly educated in medicine and science but the case still remains the same, the education you have is a failing education when it comes to cures and understanding fungi. You are probably a genius or even smarter but no official education will teach a person how to cure diseases so medicine and science are left wanting.

Ted I want to give you the respect any person deserves but I can't discount what I know and allow medical and scientific education to destroy cures any longer. I'm not here to discuss fungi; I'm here to find people interested in putting aside their education of medicine and science for the sake of researching cures that require no products, gimmicks or medical scientific education.

Ted, can you consistently cure a disease of any type? I'm not asking to be challenging, I'm looking for an example to build a discussion on.
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You may be right. I certainly cannot prove one way or the other. I put my clients on a two week diet of no carbs and no sugars to give their autoimmune system a chance to reset. Once it is reset it still requires time on the diet to eliminate any fungal infections. Under ideal circumstances an autoimmune can reset and eliminate most fungi in less than two weeks and then they can go back to eating fruit.

I have a funny problem, I say funny because it shouldn't be problem but it always is. I can help a person cure most disease with the short term diet only, no products or medicine.

I'm aware that an optimum diet will allow for optimum quality of life. My diet stinks, not because I don't want to eat the optimum diet but because like so many, I don't have the means. I end up eating what I can and I am sure you are aware that processed carbs and foods are cheap.

I'm poor and poor for one reason only and that is because I can help people cure diseases said to be incurable without the use of products. First of all it is almost impossible to market cures and second it becomes completely impossible to market cures that require no product.

I am here to see if I can gradually introduce consistent cures which require no products to someone else so I am not the only one. I want a partner, or a hundred partners. The problem is common beliefs prevent people from being able to wrap their heads around cures without products. I have taught people who wanted to learn but they did not become consistent because they were more interested in applying what I do to what they do and that doesn't work. I do what I do because I spent 15 years removing what they do so they take the simple cure and start adding what I took out and then go in reverse.
As wonderful as it all sounds, I'm gonna have to stomp on the breaks. Why do people ignore the simple notion that nutrition is our best preventative medicine?
I'm not sure any 'cure' would be attainable without applying the use of nutrient dense foods.

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Cures are simple and unrelated to medicine and foods.
Well, sure when your food consumption consists mainly of processed carbs. You'd be in a continuous cure cycle in an effort to rid the body of harmful synthetic chemicals and preservatives. Which incidently disrupt cell communication and cause chemical imbalances...

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Foods are for energy and the human body can turn just about any calorie into energy.


While your statement is true, 'any' calorie isn't necessarily a good calorie. Some calories help to raise your energy frequency thus helping the body to function properly. And others (such as empty calorie processed carbs) lowers it because they contain little or no nutrients thus leaving your body starving for the fuel it needs.

What is your backround in regard to the sciences? Have you explored cell or microbiology?
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You are probably a genius or even smarter but no official education will teach a person how to cure diseases so medicine and science are left wanting.

This quote was directed at Ted, but I'm going to reread it and pretend it was directed at me for a moment... ahh that felt good!!

If it were not for 'official education' where would those, who have an insatiable desire to expand their brain, go to learn and gather information? How would you know science & medicine is unable to cure diseases if you didn't use the scientific method of the process of elimination yourself?
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This quote was directed at Ted, but I'm going to reread it and pretend it was directed at me for a moment... ahh that felt good!!

If it were not for 'official education' where would those, who have an insatiable desire to expand their brain, go to learn and gather information? How would you know science & medicine is unable to cure diseases if you didn't use the scientific method of the process of elimination yourself?
Uhh maybe Church? Cause religion is just as solid and scientific as medical science.

And quit giving science credit for developing the "process of elimination", it was here long before science and medicine. I know, I saw a fossil of it at the Smithsonian, I think it was like 2 million years old but in really great shape.

At least if we all become good and genuine Christians we will be given the power and ability to discern the truth which scientifically proves there is no such thing as good and genuine �Christian� in our current state of affairs.

Just think of a world where people didn't believe something just because it was marketed on a TV commercial or a group of self proclaimed scientist said it was true!
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Uhh maybe Church? Cause religion is just as solid and scientific as medical science.



Maybe even more, especially when meditation is added!

Sooo were you snoozin' in the pew when the sermon, 'Dietary101, According To God' was being preached?

And the preacher bellowed, "Embrace eating God's way and YOUR TEMPLE.....your body, will not be torn down by foods that kill. Oh nooo dear brothers and sisters! It says it right here in the Good Book. Choose THESE foods with less toxins and these that provide you with more nutrients. Yes, I'll say it loudly......to help the body restore itself with foods that heal!!!!"

Among the animals, whatever divides the hoof,
having cloven hooves and chewing the cud�that you may eat.
Nevertheless these you shall not eat among those that chew the cud
or those that have cloven hooves:

the camel, the rock hyrax, the hare,
and the swine, though it divides the hoof, having cloven hooves,
yet does not chew the cud, is unclean to you.

(NKJV) Leviticus 11:3-8



"These you may eat of all that are in the water:
whatever in the water has fins and scales,
whether in the seas or in the rivers�that you may eat.
But all in the seas or in the rivers that do not have fins and scales,
all that move in the water or any living thing which is in the water,
they are an abomination to you."

(NKJV) Leviticus 11:9-10

**Only fish with scales is mentioned as scales protect them from disease and infection.

Fish Matthew 15:36
Fish John 21:11-13
Calf (Proverbs 15:17; Luke 15:23)
Goat (Genesis 27:9)
Lamb (2 Samuel 12:4)
Oxen (1 Kings 19:21)
Sheep (Deuteronomy 14:4)
Venison (KJV Genesis 27:7)
Pigeon (Genesis 15:9; Leviticus 12:8)
Quail (Psalm 105:40)
Dove (Leviticus 12:8)
Apples (Song of Solomon 2:5)
Almonds (Genesis 43:11; Numbers 17:8)
Dates (2 Samuel 6:19; 1 Chronicles 16:3)
Figs (Nehemiah 13:15; Jeremiah 24:1-3)
Grapes (Leviticus 19:10; Deuteronomy 23:24)
Melons (Numbers 11:5; Isaiah 1:8)
Olives (Isaiah 17:6; Micah 6:15)
Pistachio Nuts (Genesis 43:11)
Pomegranates (Numbers 20:5; Deuteronomy 8:8)
Raisins (Numbers 6:3; 2 Samuel 6:19)
Sycamore Fruit (Psalm 78:47; Amos 7:14)
Grape Juice (Numbers 6:3)
Honey (Exodus 33:3; Deuteronomy 8:8; Judges 14:8-9)
Locust (Mark 1:6)
Olive Oil (Ezra 6:9; Deuteronomy 8:8)
Vinegar (Ruth 2:14; John 19:29)
Wine (Ezra 6:9; John 2:1-10)
Anise (KJV Matthew 23:23 )
Coriander (Exodus 16:31; Numbers 11:7)
Cinnamon (Exodus 30:23; Revelation 18:13)
Dill (Matthew 23:23)
Garlic (Numbers 11:5)
Mint (Matthew 23:23; Luke 11:42)
Mustard (Matthew 13:31)
Rue (Luke 11:42)
Salt (Ezra 6:9; Job 6:6)
Barley (Deuteronomy 8:8; Ezekiel 4:9)
Bread (Genesis 25:34; 2 Samuel 6:19; 16:1; Mark 8:14)
Corn (KJV Matthew 12:1; - refers to "grain" such as wheat or barley)
Millet (Ezekiel 4:9)
Spelt (Ezekiel 4:9)
Unleavened Bread (Genesis 19:3; Exodus 12:20)
Wheat (Ezra 6:9; Deuteronomy 8:8)
Beans (2 Samuel 17:28; Ezekiel 4:9)
Cucumbers (Numbers 11:5)
Gourds (2 Kings 4:39)
Leeks (Numbers 11:5)
Lentils (Genesis 25:34; 2 Samuel 17:28; Ezekiel 4:9)
Onions (Numbers 11:5)

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And quit giving science credit for developing the "process of elimination", it was here long before science and medicine. I know, I saw a fossil of it at the Smithsonian, I think it was like 2 million years old but in really great shape.


Ahhh... the.. Smithsonian....

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At least if we all become good and genuine Christians we will be given the power and ability to discern the truth which scientifically proves there is no such thing as good and genuine �Christian� in our current state of affairs.


That would be wonderful. The problem is it wouldn't be fair to medicine and science if we used an organized fashion to teach the word. Plus not everyone keeps their 'connection' throughout various segments of their lives so they'd only end up being frustrated Christian posers to fit in.


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Just think of a world where people didn't believe something just because it was marketed on a TV commercial or a group of self proclaimed scientist said it was true!

Yep, buyer beware!! Well, one could say the same in regard to Christianity or spirituality although it's based on a personal relationship. Not everyone feels a natural connection in their hearts and the more it's 'marketed', and 'forced' at them, the more they feel excluded. I believe everyone comes to God in their own time...
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Maybe even more, especially when meditation is added!

Sooo were you snoozin' in the pew when the sermon, 'Dietary101, According To God' was being preached?

And the preacher bellowed, "Embrace eating God's way and YOUR TEMPLE.....your body, will not be torn down by foods that kill. Oh nooo dear brothers and sisters! It says it right here in the Good Book. Choose THESE foods with less toxins and these that provide you with more nutrients. Yes, I'll say it loudly......to help the body restore itself with foods that heal!!!!"

Among the animals, whatever divides the hoof,
having cloven hooves and chewing the cud�that you may eat.
Nevertheless these you shall not eat among those that chew the cud
or those that have cloven hooves:
the camel, the rock hyrax, the hare,
and the swine, though it divides the hoof, having cloven hooves,
yet does not chew the cud, is unclean to you.
(NKJV) Leviticus 11:3-8



"These you may eat of all that are in the water:
whatever in the water has fins and scales,
whether in the seas or in the rivers�that you may eat.
But all in the seas or in the rivers that do not have fins and scales,
all that move in the water or any living thing which is in the water,
they are an abomination to you."
(NKJV) Leviticus 11:9-10

**Only fish with scales is mentioned as scales protect them from disease and infection.

Fish Matthew 15:36
Fish John 21:11-13
Calf (Proverbs 15:17; Luke 15:23)
Goat (Genesis 27:9)
Lamb (2 Samuel 12:4)
Oxen (1 Kings 19:21)
Sheep (Deuteronomy 14:4)
Venison (KJV Genesis 27:7)
Pigeon (Genesis 15:9; Leviticus 12:8)
Quail (Psalm 105:40)
Dove (Leviticus 12:8)
Apples (Song of Solomon 2:5)
Almonds (Genesis 43:11; Numbers 17:8)
Dates (2 Samuel 6:19; 1 Chronicles 16:3)
Figs (Nehemiah 13:15; Jeremiah 24:1-3)
Grapes (Leviticus 19:10; Deuteronomy 23:24)
Melons (Numbers 11:5; Isaiah 1:8)
Olives (Isaiah 17:6; Micah 6:15)
Pistachio Nuts (Genesis 43:11)
Pomegranates (Numbers 20:5; Deuteronomy 8:8)
Raisins (Numbers 6:3; 2 Samuel 6:19)
Sycamore Fruit (Psalm 78:47; Amos 7:14)
Grape Juice (Numbers 6:3)
Honey (Exodus 33:3; Deuteronomy 8:8; Judges 14:8-9)
Locust (Mark 1:6)
Olive Oil (Ezra 6:9; Deuteronomy 8:8)
Vinegar (Ruth 2:14; John 19:29)
Wine (Ezra 6:9; John 2:1-10)
Anise (KJV Matthew 23:23 )
Coriander (Exodus 16:31; Numbers 11:7)
Cinnamon (Exodus 30:23; Revelation 18:13)
Dill (Matthew 23:23)
Garlic (Numbers 11:5)
Mint (Matthew 23:23; Luke 11:42)
Mustard (Matthew 13:31)
Rue (Luke 11:42)
Salt (Ezra 6:9; Job 6:6)
Barley (Deuteronomy 8:8; Ezekiel 4:9)
Bread (Genesis 25:34; 2 Samuel 6:19; 16:1; Mark 8:14)
Corn (KJV Matthew 12:1; - refers to "grain" such as wheat or barley)
Millet (Ezekiel 4:9)
Spelt (Ezekiel 4:9)
Unleavened Bread (Genesis 19:3; Exodus 12:20)
Wheat (Ezra 6:9; Deuteronomy 8:8)
Beans (2 Samuel 17:28; Ezekiel 4:9)
Cucumbers (Numbers 11:5)
Gourds (2 Kings 4:39)
Leeks (Numbers 11:5)
Lentils (Genesis 25:34; 2 Samuel 17:28; Ezekiel 4:9)
Onions (Numbers 11:5)



Ahhh... the.. Smithsonian....



That would be wonderful. The problem is it wouldn't be fair to medicine and science if we used an organized fashion to teach the word. Plus not everyone keeps their 'connection' throughout various segments of their lives so they'd only end up being frustrated Christian posers to fit in.


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[FONT=Verdana]Yep, buyer beware!! Well, one could say the same in regard to Christianity or spirituality although it's based on a personal relationship. Not everyone feels a natural connection in their hearts and the more it's 'marketed', and 'forced' at them, the more they feel excluded. I believe everyone comes to God in their own time...
Cookie, I love you.

I enjoy my discussions here with Dan and Ted but they have pride issues and aren't a lot of fun. Sure I have personal issues with pride myself but it has no role in my discussion of health and healing because I am aware of cures for all diseases which require no medicine, no gadgets, no pills, no science, no preacher, no beliefs and no money so I will put my foot down and speak the truth when called for.

So you can see it isn't my pride butting heads with people here, it is my knowledge butting heads with their marketing.

I loved the scripture you posted but I have lost all faith in "mainstream christianity" because I see no evidence of Christ in it. The Bible supports a healthy and disease free temple. A true Christian should be aware that they are created to be disease free. They should be aware that it isn't something we are supposed to be waiting for. They should know that their faith in pharmaceutical companies and medical technology is faith in the world and not in Him. They should know that a tree that bears bad fruit is a bad tree and should be chopped down and burned. They should be aware that disease and suffering is a direct result of disregarding the Word. But they don't. They love the world and things of the world and as such they suffer because you cannot love both the world and Him.

I like and agree with the Maker's Diet, but I disagree 100% with Jordin Rubin.

When people in church find out what I do, they start looking at me as if I should be burned as a witch for suggesting they are in control of their TEMPLE and that medicine has no real TRUE role in their health. I view trauma medicine the same way I view auto mechanics or handymen. If it something gets broke get it fixed.

I agree that "mainstream christians" are clueless when it comes to their health and as such should not take their own health into their own hands without first discovering the Truth, the Light and the Knowledge. All the christain religions that allow people to die of diseases while avoiding medical help is a slap in the fact to the Truth and the Light.

This is why I don't go to church. Thank you for the fellowship. Where two people gather in His name you have His church.

I would be lying if I didn't say I didn't have doubts about the validity of Christianity over all other religions because it appears to me that they are all very similar. Had I not been labeled as practicing "priest craft" years ago I would be less harsh in my judging. By the way, there is a scripture in the bible that says we are to judge, rebuke and expose any false doctrine so my judgment was in line at the time.

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Cookie, I love you.

I enjoy my discussions here with Dan and Ted but they have pride issues and aren't a lot of fun. Sure I have personal issues with pride myself but it has no role in my discussion of health and healing because I am aware of cures for all diseases which require no medicine, no gadgets, no pills, no science, no preacher, no beliefs and no money so I will put my foot down and speak the truth when called for.

So you can see it isn't my pride butting heads with people here, it is my knowledge butting heads with their marketing.

I loved the scripture you posted but I have lost all faith in "mainstream christianity" because I see no evidence of Christ in it. The Bible supports a healthy and disease free temple. A true Christian should be aware that they are created to be disease free. They should be aware that it isn't something we are supposed to be waiting for. They should know that their faith in pharmaceutical companies and medical technology is faith in the world and not in Him. They should know that a tree that bears bad fruit is a bad tree and should be chopped down and burned. They should be aware that disease and suffering is a direct result of disregarding the Word. But they don't. They love the world and things of the world and as such they suffer because you cannot love both the world and Him.

I like and agree with the Maker's Diet, but I disagree 100% with Jordin Rubin.

When people in church find out what I do, they start looking at me as if I should be burned as a witch for suggesting they are in control of their TEMPLE and that medicine has no real TRUE role in their health. I view trauma medicine the same way I view auto mechanics or handymen. If it something gets broke get it fixed.

I agree that "mainstream christians" are clueless when it comes to their health and as such should not take their own health into their own hands without first discovering the Truth, the Light and the Knowledge. All the christain religions that allow people to die of diseases while avoiding medical help is a slap in the fact to the Truth and the Light.

This is why I don't go to church. Thank you for the fellowship. Where two people gather in His name you have His church.

I would be lying if I didn't say I didn't have doubts about the validity of Christianity over all other religions because it appears to me that they are all very similar. Had I not been labeled as practicing "priest craft" years ago I would be less harsh in my judging. By the way, there is a scripture in the bible that says we are to judge, rebuke and expose any false doctrine so my judgment was in line at the time.

Knowledge is the cure, and if He is the Light and He is the Truth than He is Knowledge. Medicine is of the world.

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Practicing priest craft isn't really a terribly awful thing, is it? Often times people are misinformed in regard to wiccans..
Anyway, my intent for harping on your eating habits was to get you to make better food choices. Even healers need nutritious foods for fuel
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Hopefully we can exchange our thoughts about Jesus at a later date~
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Anyway, my intent for harping on your eating habits was to get you to make better food choices. Even healers need nutritious foods for fuel
Thank you for harping. I just started a low carb low sugar diet I will do for a few days just to make sure I remain cleansed as much as possible of fungus because my clients are literally covered with it. [IMG]file:///C:/Users/DAVIDF~1/AppData/Local/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image001.gif[/IMG]

I hope the day comes where I can eat well again. I do what I can. The garden is now producing peas, beans, and tomatoes to go with the pounds of lettuce we have been eating for months. Waiting on the squash, cucumbers, carrots and soy beans.

Poor sleep, stress and lack of fun is what threatens me most. I'm 40 years old and being unhealthy is not an option when you know how to be disease free. I've just about got these under control so things are not too bad.

I just behaved poorly on the topic https://www.natmedtalk.com/general-discussion/19407-deodorant-what-do-you-use-2.html#post167856

I might need a strongly worded reprimand.
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Thank you for harping. I just started a low carb low sugar diet I will do for a few days just to make sure I remain cleansed as much as possible of fungus because my clients are literally covered with it.
Sooo your healing process is hands on, massage?


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Oops, something didn't work right lol Is this the outline document of your lowcarb, low sugar diet, or is it a picture of you?!

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I hope the day comes where I can eat well again. I do what I can. The garden is now producing peas, beans, and tomatoes to go with the pounds of lettuce we have been eating for months. Waiting on the squash, cucumbers, carrots and soy beans.


It's amazing how creative you can become with food choices to purchase to compliment homegrown veggies....... on a limited income. Plus your body doesn't 'crave' if you eat 5 small snacky type meals consisting of a protein, carb & fat.

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Poor sleep, stress and lack of fun is what threatens me most. I'm 40 years old and being unhealthy is not an option when you know how to be disease free. I've just about got these under control so things are not too bad.


Whoa, lack of fun and you're in the prime of your life?! Gotta put that first & everything else will fall into place. What type of activities do you like?



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I might need a strongly worded reprimand.
Okay, who has the hiney paddle?
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Sooo your healing process is hands on, massage?

It's amazing how creative you can become with food choices to purchase to compliment homegrown veggies....... on a limited income. Plus your body doesn't 'crave' if you eat 5 small snacky type meals consisting of a protein, carb & fat.

Whoa, lack of fun and you're in the prime of your life?! Gotta put that first & everything else will fall into place. What type of activities do you like?



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[FONT=Verdana]Okay, who has the hiney paddle?
No I don't do hands on or massage. Hands-on is the same as naturopathy or acupuncture. I'm trying to give people an idea of what I do on the other thread but as far as I can tell no one can give me an example of any healing they do especially in the form of a cure.

Before anyone can become consistent with cures they will have to put aside their pride and recognize that they are mistaken in the actual events that take place when someone is healed. Hands-on doesn't heal or cure. Naturopath doesn't heal of cure. Acupuncture doesn't heal or cure. Reiki doesn't heal or cure. Diet doesn't heal or cure. When any of these appear to work it is the same "event" taking place and the event behind every single natural or alternative cure is the same and if you take all the products, medicine, diets and gimmicks away you are left with just the "event" which is what I am trying to get people to investigate here but without any luck.

If someone can give me an example of any semi-consistent form of alternative medicine or therapy that cures something I can tell them how to make it even more consistent. My fear is there is no such thing left in alternative medicine these days. I fear the art of healing has been lost and I know for sure when I try to teach it I meet a great resistance because of people's pride. When a person becomes "educated" they are usually no longer teachable especially if what they need to be taught contradicts their "education". Give a person a PhD or title of Doctor and they really become un-teachable. Modern mainstream curriculum does not teach the good stuff and the good stuff contradicts modern mainstream education. Educated people only know what they are suppose to know.

I eat deer, elk, pheasant and wild fish with my food that I grow which gives you an idea of what I like to do.
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