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Old 10-26-2009, 09:00 PM
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This Sovereign Silver is what I've bought several times in the last 5 or 6 years, when I'm too lazy to make my own, or when I want to be sure the particle size is small and hopefully safer nebulized into my lungs. It is expensive from the manufacturer here, but I bought it a little cheaper at my local health food store. I will send you a link to VitaCost at your pm mailbox on here that's $5 cheaper than the manufacture's site for the 4 oz bottle that I bought. Some people on here mention using a lot stronger ppm, but I'm not sure that it's necessary. I don't recommend using something strong in the lungs, in fact I used to dilute this kind with part distilled water. You can look at the research that was done at the site. This Sovereign Silver is 10 ppm and 0.0008 microns in size. An easy way to test the silver to see if it's suspended in the water (without shaking the bottle) is to shine a red lazer light through it. Distilled water has no minerals so won't reflect light, but the silver glows and there should be a bright beam when you shine the light through the bottle. The silver should stay suspended in the water all the time, until it loses it's electric charge, after which it isn't very effective. I've had to hurry writing this...I hope it makes sense!

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MegRG,

It took me a long time to write the one to kind2creatures above, and meanwhile you posted the Sovereign too!

I wanted to say to you that the one you mentioned before was .001 nm. That n might stand for nano, and might be smaller than a micron...I'm not sure.
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MegRG,

It took me a long time to write the one to kind2creatures above, and meanwhile you posted the Sovereign too!

I wanted to say to you that the one you mentioned before was .001 nm. That n might stand for nano, and might be smaller than a micron...I'm not sure.

Thanks Night Owl! I'm glad you posted about it - I wondered if anyone else had used it with success...
That's right - that is a nano...which is smaller that a micron I believe.
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I'm going to buy more Colloidal Silver, besides the Respiratory Support (molecular).
This is an old chart, but I haven't found any CS, including Nutrasilver, that sounds like it's better than Mesosilver 20PPM, by Purest Colloids. I've used this before and wasn't impressed, would like to try something new, that also would be good in nebulizer??
the reason I say to use nutrasilver is because it kills morgellons disease pathogens. No other colloidal silver has been able to do this. I would not us any other and I know that lots of folks like other products but I do know that some of these 10 and 20 ppm has not been effective on the H1N1 virus. Personally I would not give colloidal silver to a child as a preventative. I would use vitamin D, vitamin C in large dosages and then if they get sick switch to mms. If the repiratory condition became severe I would use nutrasilver in a nebulizer.
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I like NutraSilver too. FDA certified lab tests. Easy to carry in real small bottles (30ml). Just 20 drops per 1/2 cup distilled water is plenty for me per dose.

Gee. I'm sounding like a salesman. It's just that I've tried several and landed on this. Utopia Silver is my second favorite.

Lab tests results for NutraSilver.
https://www.nutrasilver.com/pages/lab-test

NutraSilver� is up to 3000 times stronger than 95% of the colloidal silver products on the market today. NutraSilver� was scientifically engineered with a new type of clustered water to vector the silver particles to the pathogens
https://www.nutrasilver.com/pages/faqs

True Colloidal Silver is made from real silver particles and �suspends� naturally. NutraSilver� is 3,600 ppm.
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According to this statement from Jon Barron's newsletter, the respiratory system is a major concern. I would opt for the colloidal silver over getting the vaccine anyday though.

This strain of swine flu, like the avian flu and Spanish flu before it, seems to have the ability to turn a person's immune system against itself so that it literally attacks the victim's lungs in what is known as a cytokine storm -- and in extreme cases, literally eating them up. This is not theoretical. We see evidence of this as we read the reports of those who are dying now from swine flu and how they are dying --almost all from attacks on lung tissue, either directly or through secondary infection.
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kind2creatures, you don't have a pm link so I'll post the Vitacost link here.

https://www.vitacost.com/NaturalImmun...-S-54202675011
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kind2creatures, you don't have a pm link so I'll post the Vitacost link here.

https://www.vitacost.com/NaturalImmun...-S-54202675011
Thank you so much nightowl for your trouble and good information! I've shopped at Vitacost before, and have found some good values!

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Well I'm sold in Hydrogen Peroxide again- I use a diluted solution about 1 to 10 in water and a spray bottle to inhale it. Seems to help but never had a fungus. Colloidal silver is a good idea too, just more expensive.
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RCannon,

What type of hydrogen peroxide did you use? Must not be 35% Food grade or it would have to be diluted more than that, I believe.
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What type of hydrogen peroxide did you use? Must not be 35% Food grade or it would have to be diluted more than that, I believe.
The "Molecula Silver" I just bought has a small amount of food grade hydrogen peroxide in it. It specifies of the bottle, "for use in nebulizer only". Has peroxide AND is expensive!
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The "Molecula Silver" I just bought has a small amount of food grade hydrogen peroxide in it. It specifies of the bottle, "for use in nebulizer only". Has peroxide AND is expensive!
Hi, kind2creatures,
do you remember if it (i.e. Respiratory support formula with H2O2) worked for you? Their website claims molecular one has better penetration than both ionic and colloidal.
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Hi, kind2creatures,
do you remember if it (i.e. Respiratory support formula with H2O2) worked for you? Their website claims molecular one has better penetration than both ionic and colloidal.
I haven't had the need to use it yet, the bottle is still unopened and kept in a cool, dark area. The Omron nebulizer I bought has not been used either. Hopefully I'll stay healthy and won't need to use them. Like pinballdoctor said, it's better to have and not use, than need and not have.
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Thanks. I'll look that up when I have more time. I'm always looking for something beneficial to the lungs.
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1/The size of colloidal silver particles continue to increase during the storage life. Even if the unlikely-small particles claimed by some companies were measured accurately, they are no longer quite that small virtually immediately after the measurement. 2/ 10 ppm is plenty.The patient would simply use more/ (nebulize longer), than with 20ppm. 3/ There's no meaningful superiority of ionic or colloidal silver. a/ Ionic is a bit more efficient for nebulizing, as the lungs won't convert the ions into salts, but colloidal is fine. b/ Colloidal is a bit more efficient for swallowing, as there are less ions to convert to salts in the stomach, but ionic will also work quite well. 4/Agyria can't be caused unless the colloidal process is a sped-up with salt in the water. Modern methods, (including newer home machines), use pure water. 5/ If there really is a colloidal silver with 3.600ppm, it's not 3,000 x the weakest, (10ppm), product: a/ 3,600: 360 x 10, 180 x 20ppm. b/ Clustered water is a quality of surface water in motion, & won't maintain such in still, bottled water. 6/ Ppm don't mean much in a nebulizer, where ions are more effective. Ions have virtually no mass and are not accounted for in the ppm measurement. 7/ Accepting the 3,600ppm claim & accepting that one isn't likely to increase dosage 180 times to match it, what ppm is really optimal? Such wonderful results have been had with 10ppm, a few more breaths equal the effects of 20ppm..is 3,600 really any better?
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