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I've always had moles. Over the years, I've had a couple of them removed, and a couple of them tested for cancer. Everything's been ok so far.

As time goes so, I'm getting more and more moles! I've been getting raised rough spots that have no color, but eventually turn into a mole.

Is anyone else getting this with age? A lot of them are in areas that aren't exposed to the sun at all. Does anyone know what causes excessive moles as we get older, or is it just me?

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No problem w/moles here, only a few age spots. And it looks like even
those are either lightening or disappearing since I'm doing the oral EDTA.
I know a dermatologist doesn't come cheap but if you're due to see your
regular DR. for any reason, have him/her look at them.
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Some age spots can be removed with Lugol's iodine topically and I have removed 6 so far. Warts with MMS topically.

Bloodroot paste is suppose to be able to remove many age spots and moles. Check this site out. www.altcancer.com
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Hi Arrow--I tried to email but they wouldn't go through. I used black salve (bloodroot salve) on a scary-looking mole my husband had, and one on my brother-in-law that looked like something from outer space, and they both went through reactions like they were cancer, formed the escar with roots and then killed everything and healed up perfectly. That's the problem with dangerous moles--these things have roots, but black salve is ruthless and relentless when it comes to removing anything questionable. But then, maybe even non-cancerous moles have roots and would go through the same thing. The salve works on abnormal tissue. It doesn't have to be cancer. We even used it when my husband had cirrhosis of the liver while still drinking and his liver came up normal the last time they checked. It's pretty amazing stuff. In that case, it not only brought stuff to the surface, but triggered a cleansing through the bowel, too. You can make your own salve or purchase it, but be warned that if there is cancer there, it will dig for it and could cause scaring, although it didn't with the moles.
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Hi djt,

Good to hear from you! the email didn't go through cause after I pm'd you I realized my end was linked to a defunct email address. Kevin has changed it now to my new address but guess he just didn't get to it in time, so there should be no problem now.

I haven't used any Alpha Omega products but am thinking of ordering some of their cansema ointment. No cancer here but I am thinking it could come up due to my husbands relentless sun exposure over the years. It has at least a 10 year shelf life, maybe quite a bit longer. I just think it would be good to have on hand. They have the bloodroot stuff too.

(I feel inclined to support that group, he has been through so much and I hear he is in jail again. The FEDS picked him up in an airport on foreign soil in Ecquador where the company is now)

Can you share with us the bloodroot product you use?

What I am trying to treat on DH right now are some skin spots, a keratosis of some sort on his arms, they look gray in color and slighly raised. MMS didn't work and we are trying direct applications of Lugol's iodine right now which remove my common brown age spots on my hands but it's day three now and no effect on his spots.... so I got to thinking about bloodroot.
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I make my own salve. Cansema can be made with alternate products--bloodroot or another one or two. The formula and instructions are on my https://truthquest2.com site. The home page has links to the formula, scientific studies, and many, many photos, including of my husband's mole only I stupidly didn't take a picture of it before we started, and I have a very big, graphic page of my thigh "lump" that I did about 3 rounds of black salve with, because I kept bumping the scab (eschar) and breaking roots at a critical time before they were killed off. When that happens, you have to go back after them. It's been several years now, and though the scar was upsetting at the time, it's nearly faded away to skin color and hardly noticible. I also removed a small lump under the skin near my mouth. That one went crazy, with a lot of white foamy stuff coming out, but afterwards, teeth that were hurting me didn't hurt any more, so I'm thinking that had something to do with infection in the teeth or jaws. I have a thin white scar from that, but it was worth it. Over a year ago, I used the salve on some abnormal looking spots on my hands, and got a strong reaction. They weren't age spots, they were more raised skin-colored spots but didn't look normal. With those I watered down some salve and just dabbed a little bit over the tops of my hands to get everything and wow--there was a lot there. On the other hand, I tried salve on a normal-looking mole and it didn't even get a reaction, but sometimes you probably have to do the pin-prick method of using a needle to score the surface to get it to react with just a mole.

I have heard of the iodiand ine treatment, and there's another really old method of mixing caster oil with baking soda. I was trying that on my young granddaughter,who had an unsitely mole in the middle of her chin, and it started to go away, but she wouldn't leave the bandage on so I ordered something from England specifically for mole removal, and that was a mistake. It removed the mole but smeared and left a raised scar that will need some dermabrasion or something when she gets old, although she prefers that to the black mole that kept growing as she did. I didn't want to use the black salve on her face but she probably have been better off than the $100 one-application salve I used instead.

The salve is easy to make. The hard part is getting zinc chloride. I have an online place to order from on the website, so it isn't that it's hard, just expensive. They charge hazzardous chemical fees and extra charges for land mail. The $30 bottle I ordered cost about $125, and that was many years ago. It's about triple that price now, but one bottle will make enough salve to treat a small city. I still have half a quart in my fridge, and yes, the stuff lasts forever. I don't think you even need to refridgerate it.

Greg Caton has the ingredients and instructions for making Cansema on YouTube, but it would be so much easier just to buy it from him if you don't need a lot. It wasn't available when I started making it in the late 1980's. I didn't even have a computer then. I got my formula from local people. It came out of a 150 yr. old book a chiropracter had. It's an odd story. He gave the formula to someone to use, who helped other people make it and use it. The authorities got wind of it and the newspaper ran a sting operation with a real cancer patient who went to the chiro and asked him if he knew anything alternative to try, so he referred her to the woman whose terminal cancer was cured in one application and who was offering her free services to help others who wanted to do it. For that he lost his license and the woman (a friend of my husband's) was threatened with prison for "practicing medicine without a license" if she even talked about it again. The newspaper ran the story about the sting operation...and then published the formula and instructions along with it so thousands of people had the formula and how to use it. One of the people who got it from the paper in 1981 gave it to me. We didn't even know about the friend who got in trouble with it. So, we are a community with pockets of quiet salve use.

In fact, I only know of one death. The woman was days from death when she wanted to try the salve. According to the friend's partner (he talked to us even when she wouldn't) the cancer spread was so massive that cancer was coming out in the friends hands from the opening the salve made, but she was too far gone with organ involvement and couldn't be salved. Otherwise, I've never heard of anyone around here who didn't remove their cancers with it.

I am about to do another treatment on my husband. After 60 years of chain smoking (he is 73) his lungs are getting bad--at least he coughs a lot, but this time I want him to see a doctor for some documentation, and if he has lung cancer, I will document the whole process and put it on YouTube, but I want proof of what we're dealing with first. We don't do biopsies--too easy to spread it that way. X-rays are different (not that the radiation is good).

By the way, I made my own because that's all we had at the time, but also because we use it for so many things. I've been waiting for an animal to get a tumor or cancer, but it might be a long wait. We don't do vaccines and they don't get tumors and cancers.

They do get horrible illnesses though--some kind of wasting, respiratory thing going around. For that it's MMS. (Another thing to document with videotape the next time I catch a sick one).
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To remove keratoses, sun spots, non-melanoma skin cancers, just about everything except for moles and melanomas, don't forget about Curaderm-BEC5 as a treatment option:

https://www.askdocweb.com/curaderm.html

https://www.antiaging-systems.com/PG4...5-curaderm.htm


Although still a little on the expensive side, it's now available at a discount from Swanson Health Products:

https://www.swansonvitamins.com/CRD001/ItemDetail

Anyone considering using a bloodroot salve might want to read and take into consideration the experience of others on the following thread, which also includes some of the Cansema story and useful Links:

https://www.topicalinfo.org/forum/topic.asp?topic_ID=44

Also note the reply near the bottom of the page (currently next to last Post) to a critic of Cansema and Greg Caton by Greg Caton's wife, Cathryn Caton, N.D. Thankyou Arrowind09 for the Link to the Cansema/Alpha Omega Labs Home Page. The Cansema story is compelling to say the least, and appears to be one of the major tragedies in modern medical history.

djt, both you and your husband, and anyone else about to have diagnostic x-rays, should be aware (if not already) of some of the research of the last few years regarding x-ray radiation and load up beforehand with antioxidants to ensure maximum protection from possible radiation damage; it's inexpensive insurance and readily available (in the U.S., anyway - to date, that is):

https://www.naturalnews.com/023318.html
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Thanks to all for your replies. My initial post was just asking what causes excessive mole growth as we get older, in folks who have moles, especially in areas that have no exposure to the sun at all.

The posts about salves reminded me that I have a tube of Goldline Ichthammol Ointment 20% in my medicine chest. Does anyone have good uses for this besides drawing out splinters, bug bites and boils? Can this be used to remove moles too?
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Thanks to all for your replies. My initial post was just asking what causes excessive mole growth as we get older, in folks who have moles, especially in areas that have no exposure to the sun at all.

The posts about salves reminded me that I have a tube of Goldline Ichthammol Ointment 20% in my medicine chest. Does anyone have good uses for this besides drawing out splinters, bug bites and boils? Can this be used to remove moles too?
Regarding your original question, here's what the Merck Manual (regarded by some as the Medical "Bible") has to say about Moles in pertinent part:

"Moles vary in size, may be flat or raised, may be smooth or rough (wart-like), and may have hairs growing from them. Although they're usually dark brown or black, moles can be flesh-colored or yellow-brown. Almost everyone has about 10 moles, which commonly develop in childhood or adolescence. Like all cells, pigment cells respond to changes in hormone levels, so moles may appear, enlarge, or darken during pregnancy.
. . . . . . . .
Atypical Moles

Atypical moles (dysplastic nevi) are flat or raised dark skin growths, but they are bigger than ordinary moles (larger than a half inch across) and are not necessarily round. They vary in color from tan to dark brown, usually on a pink background.

Some people have more than 100 atypical moles, and new ones may keep appearing even after middle age. Atypical moles may appear anywhere on the body, although they're more common on covered areas, such as the buttocks, breasts, and scalp - a considerably different distribution than that of ordinary moles.

The tendency to grow atypical moles is hereditary, though some people without a family history can develop them. ... Whether the risk of melanoma is high in people who have atypical moles but no family history of melanoma is unknown.

People with atypical moles - particularly those with a family history of melanoma - must look for any changes that might indicate malignant melanoma. They should have their skin checked yearly by their primary care doctor or dermatologist. Dermatologists observe atypical moles to monitor subtle changes, such as a change in color or size; to help monitor such changes, dermatologists often use full-body color photographs. Any such change in an atypical mole means that the mole should be removed.

Some experts think that sunlight accelerates the development of and changes in atypical moles. People with atypical moles should avoid sun exposure. When in the sun, they should always use a sunscreen with a sun protection factor (SPF) rating of at least 15. These sunscreens can provide a shield against cancer-producing ultraviolet (UV) rays."

So there you have it, at least as of 1997, as that is the copyright date of the latest edition that I own. I did a brief SEARCH to try to find out what else, other than heredity, may cause moles to appear. However the consensus of the sources that I accesssed is that such cause is unknown. As I had suspected that it my be due in some cases to a virus, I did a SEARCH specific to a virus being the cause and the result was the same - unknown.

Thus it would appear that if you have ordinary moles, the smaller ones, their continuing development at this stage of your life may be due to hormonal changes. If atypical moles, the larger ones which are "more common on covered areas", it may well be heredity that you have to thank. Perhaps someone else my be able to find different and more recent information regarding the interesting subject, or may be able to offer their own personal or familial experience.

As for the Ichthammol Ointment, I can find nothing which would indicate that it is effective for mole removal. I have no idea where you're located or if you would even care to investigate other options; however if you might be so inclined, your best bet would be to locate a dermatologist who advertises his/her services as both medical and cosmetic. Usually such Derm. will employ a Medical Esthetician in his/her practice and will offer a number of high tech/laser type procedures, etc., many of which could be described as cutting edge, as the techniques and the technology in the field have changed so rapidly and are relatively new. However, you want to make sure that the Derm. is "Board Certified." Anyway, there may be some new procedure which would produce fast, painless, and guaranteed scar-free results in removing moles. That's the type of Derm. who would probably offer such, as well as what have been the standard removal procedures, and who could help you determine which procedure would be best for your particular case, if interested.
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