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That's a good idea. I've practiced that for decades. I take supplements on weekdays and give myself a break on weekends...
Does that apply to all supplements?
What about things that I take for vericose veins and circulation,
like Nattokinase, Butcher's Broom, Garlic, Horse Chestnut...?

What about Ginger?

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Glutamine is a great general health supplement with lots of different types of benefits. It's a staple in my supplement regiment, you might wanna consider adding it to yours too. Here's a good Natural News article about glutamine (I love that site):

https://www.naturalnews.com/035956_gl...s_healing.html
Compelling article! I'm sold!
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Now D3 5000 IU

Natures Bounty Cold Water Salmon Oil 1000mg - Switching to Now soon


Spring Valley Odorless Garlic 100 to 1 extract 10mg

DB 100% Chelated Magnesium 200mg Elemental

Natures Bounty Cold Water Salmon Oil 1000mg - Switching to Now soon
Sundown Naturals Milk Thistle Xtra 240mg - will switch brands soon

Zoloft 50mg

Due to a recent very severe thigh cramp during sleep with a repeat a few hours later (after I had run out of bananas for 2 days) I added a few 595mg Potassium Gluconate pills throughout the day.
Hmmmm............

You can double your D no problem

Mag should help with leg cramps, surprised you're getting them. Water? Blood clot?

Dump the odorless garlic, it's not doing anything. Fresh garlic or forget it.

Check your fish oil label for DHA and EPA amounts. Research and compare. Costco fish oil is a ripoff, but the encentric coated Costco is worth the $.
I take the Yarrows.

Milk thistle is supposed to help recycle antioxidants; I recently started taking it.

Isn't zoloft a prescription antidepressant? Does your Doc know you're taking St Johns Wort too?
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Hmmmm............

You can double your D no problem

Mag should help with leg cramps, surprised you're getting them. Water? Blood clot?

Dump the odorless garlic, it's not doing anything. Fresh garlic or forget it.

Check your fish oil label for DHA and EPA amounts. Research and compare.

Isn't zoloft a prescription antidepressant? Does your Doc know you're taking St Johns Wort too?
Thanks for the reply!

I'll consider the D3 dosage.

Fortunately, the leg cramps were a one time thing -
no bananas for 2 days, not enough water that evening, and salty snacks before sleeping.

Why do you think the garlic is useless?

Just switched to Now Salmon Oil.

Yes, Zoloft is a drug. I added the SJW and cut the Zoloft dose in half.
Plan to taper it down to nothing and increase the SJW.
They both increase seratonin. I did not discuss with Dr., but did some research and read that people have made the same transition without problems.
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I believe odorless garlic supplements have proven ineffective. Something about the volatile portion being responsible for the benefit.

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The dietary supplement industry is such a mixed bag these days. It has such promise, but often fails to deliver. For example, garlic pills were once the number one herbal supplement. But studies showed most garlic pills failed to deliver the active ingredient produced by fresh-crushed garlic cloves. Subsequently garlic pills fell from their top-seller spot. Turns out that stomach acid destroys the enzyme (alliinase) that produces the active ingredient allicin. Only if a garlic clove is crushed outside the acidic stomach is allicin produced. Only enteric-coated or buffered garlic tablets produce what a fresh-crushed clove of garlic delivers.
https://www.lewrockwell.com/sardi/sardi175.html






Salmon Oil Concentrate 2.0 g
Omega-3-Fatty Acids 400 mg
EPA 240 mg
DHA 160 mg


Not terrible, but I'd still make sure to shop potency VS price. Lately more emphasis has been placed on the longer chain DHA over the shorter EPA. Your body can convert DHA to EPA.


Good job making the switch from Pharma to nature based on your own research.
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I believe odorless garlic supplements have proven ineffective. Something about the volatile portion being responsible for the benefit. https://www.lewrockwell.com/sardi/sardi175.html

Salmon Oil Concentrate ... Lately more emphasis has been placed on the longer chain DHA over the shorter EPA. Your body can convert DHA to EPA.

Good job making the switch from Pharma to nature based on your own research.
Thanks for the additional info!
I put some enteric coated Garlic in my iHerb cart

Next time I order Salmon Oil, I'll look at that more closely.

Yes, I always try to avoid Pharma whenever possible!
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That's a good idea. I've practiced that for decades. I take supplements on weekdays and give myself a break on weekends. This is true for antibiotic supplements as well, such as olive leaf extract, oil of oregano, coconut oil. Some definitely should only be taken for a short period like only a month, then take a break - yucca root, licorice root, pau d'arco, chaparral.. Those can affect the kidneys. It has to do with pathogen resistance. Just like pharmaceutical antibiotics.
Do you have a comprehensive list of antibiotic supplements? I've tried looking for one online without any luck...
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Do you have a comprehensive list of antibiotic supplements? I've tried looking for one online without any luck...
Only from experience and research. My favorites.

Oil of oregano
Olive leaf extract
Pau D'arco
Chaparral
Andrographis
Colloidal silver
Garlic
Coconut oil
Mega dose vitamin C and D
Turmeric (curcumin)

Those are my more common ones. Then there's

Manuka honey
Echinacea (but need to take a lot)
Goldenseal (but currently endangered)
Grapefruit seed extract (low on my list)
Ginger
Cat's claw
Ozone
Apple cider vinegar (seldom works for me)

My grandmother used to give us a spoonful of castor oil in orange juice when something started. She said bad health starts in the colon. Castor oil definitely does the trick.

And probiotics. Friendly bacteria produce acids that will kill many bad microbes. Most important for long term.
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Seven Wonders ~
I did not take time to read everything that everyone else wrote in response. Although you don't want to take the time to read "books," there is one book you need as a resource; at least this one. To answer your question about combining things, would require someone with about the same knowledge as a nutritionist, or someone else who would be willing to do the research that you don't want to do (for lack of time, or whatever reason). However, The Balches' book, Prescription for Nutritional Healing, is the one book you need to check on much of what you are taking.

I have compared many different multiple vitamins and seen only two with formulas I liked. One was what my acupuncturist used and recommended, and the other was Shaklee, much less cost than that of the acupuncturist's multiple. The reason I like them is because the B vitamins are in such a good balance. The Balches wrote in their book, if those B vitamins are not in a good balance, the body kicks them out. I know this sounds so odd, but that's what they wrote, and I have heard this from another nutritionist also. No one needs to have 6666% of the DVA for one B vitamin, and then have only 10-15% of the B vitamin Biotin. The body makes some of its own Biotin, but the DVA, unless they have changed it, is 300 mcg, not 10 or 15. It's these weird combinations for B vitamins which makes me see a red flag whenever I check a formula.

Minerals are extremely important as is the EFA proper combo. A good multiple will have a good balance of minerals, or at least some calcium.
I am not trying to spam here, but we are talking about what is healthy, and what works, and there is nothing I know of like the Shaklee products for knowing what works, particularly because they have had over 70 articles regarding a specific Shaklee product, published in medical (like JAMA) and scientific (like a NASA publication) journals! Such articles are not easily published in such journals.
Some people have a difficult time when beginning any supplementation, but some people have a difficult time (nausea) due to the things used in a multiple, like the binding agent.
Regarding combining, I would suggest you get the Balches book, and look up each supplement you can find listed. The only thing that comes to my mind, i.e., that I remember having seen, is that often iron needs to be taking at a different time from some other supplement, but I don't remember which. Usually, I think it is just taking by itself or with whatever else helps with its absorption.
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Only from experience and research. My favorites.

Oil of oregano
Olive leaf extract
Pau D'arco
Chaparral
Andrographis
Colloidal silver
Garlic
Coconut oil
Mega dose vitamin C and D
Turmeric (curcumin)

Those are my more common ones. Then there's

Manuka honey
Echinacea (but need to take a lot)
Goldenseal (but currently endangered)
Grapefruit seed extract (low on my list)
Ginger
Cat's claw
Ozone
Apple cider vinegar (seldom works for me)

My grandmother used to give us a spoonful of castor oil in orange juice when something started. She said bad health starts in the colon. Castor oil definitely does the trick.

And probiotics. Friendly bacteria produce acids that will kill many bad microbes. Most important for long term.
Ah! Thank you!
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Seven Wonders ~
...To answer your question about combining things, would require someone with about the same knowledge as a nutritionist, or someone else who would be willing to do the research that you don't want to do (for lack of time, or whatever reason). However, The Balches' book, Prescription for Nutritional Healing, is the one book you need to check on much of what you are taking...Best wishes ~
Thank you very much for the recommendations!
I will check into the book as well as the Multi.
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I know this sounds so odd, but that's what they wrote, and I have heard this from another nutritionist also. No one needs to have 6666% of the DVA for one B vitamin, and then have only 10-15% of the B vitamin Biotin.~

I put no credence in the FDA or RDA for anything. If I did, I wouldn't be on this board.
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