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Question Are there root canal alternatives?

My own brittle teeth with cavities brought me to this wonderful forum! I am 55 and male vegetarian from India with a love for spicy/curried food supplemented by lots of salads, greens, green juices, fruit juices/shakes etc. I did use food grade diluted Hydogen Peroxide and herbal toothpastes for a while to clean my teeth. I rarely go to a dentist as I prefer to take care of my teeth naturally. According to my dentist, I have "misaligned" grinding jaws. My lower 2nd & 3rd molar teeth on the right and the 3rd molar tooth on the left have broken in small pieces to cause cavities due to brittleness and/or misalignment. Recently, I had some pain on the right side and abscess for a couple of days on the left side and I have been given Amoxicillin (500mg/3x a day) to kill the bacteria. I have hardly ever taken any drugs in my entire life. According to the dentist's x-ray, the bacterial attack has hit the first nerve of the 3rd tooth on the left side, while the second nerve of the same tooth is still intact. The right teeth are still a safe distance away from the nerve attacks by bacteria.

Here is the disturbing part. The dentist recommended that I get a "root canal" operation for my left 3rd tooth right away, even though the second nerve on the same tooth is still fine. Just the thought of drilling out a big hole in still a live tooth doesn't jive well with me, since I feel that if I can block and prevent the bacterial attack, then the "root canal" can be avoided. One friend of mine suggested a regular deep gum cleaning/irrigation by using "Via Jet Pro by Oratec" for deep gum cleaning by using canulae and therasol solution.


Here are my questions pertaining to this serious issue:
  • Have I made my teeth brittle & caused cavities by Hydrogen Peroxide or due to fluorinated municipal water of Los Angeles?
  • What are the other non-invasive alternatives to "root canal" operation? There is no need to destroy a live, still functioning molar tooth!
  • Are there natural remedies & therapies to reverse these detrimental effects on my teeth so that a natural healing may resume?
  • What other professional deep gum irrigation devices can I use to immediately kill all the bacterial attack to prevent further damage to these affected molar teeth?
  • Would it be better to switch to juices. healthy & nutritious shakes, and other easily chewable softer foods as opposed to the regular hard foods?
  • What diet & life style changes should I make to regain healthy & stronger teeth as long as possible?
  • Would changing to full Raw Foodism be a great idea with almost no sugar, salt, starch, cooked food, wine/alcohol, and vinegar?
Any and all ideas to remedy my urgent teeth problem will be highly appreciated, since my anti-biotic is about to run out and I would hate to put any more drugs in my body! Once again, thanks to the admin for providing such a great forum and thanks to all those who still practice and believe in the natural modalities to treat the ailments!!

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nature_lover, recently I feared I needed a root canal so I nightly rinsed my mouth with an activated solution of MMS (five drops) with a little water. Two weeks later every thing is still fine with no pain. The dentist has since not mentioned the need for a root canal. Lots of luck.
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You likely will be able to avoid root canal and this link will tell you how and where. You should be able to find a dentist in the LA area that does this work and this page provides a search link for a dentist.

https://www.healthsalon.org/478/biomimetic-dentistry-ozone-dentistry-avoiding-root-canal-dr-alleman-dds/

You also need to develop new methods to care for your teeth. And this link will help you to do that:
https://www.healthsalon.org/453/cavities-gum-disease-toothache-bad-breath-how-to-prevent-and-cure-oral-disease/

As BigAl said, rinsing your mouth with MMS will help with an active infection but I would not do it forever. Decide on something like a 10 day course of mms mouth flushes then stop. MMS may be too strong an antioxidant for your teeth for long periods of time. Then move on to one of the other protocols in the link above. That will keep the bacterial load down.

Also, if you are drinking flouradated water it is time to stop. When it comes to city water I preferred drinking Distilled and you should be able to find a little shop somewhere that makes if fresh for you while you wait to avoid stuff that has been sitting in plastic gallon jugs forever. Be sure to take supplemental trace minerals.

You will also want to read this page on silica. Like bone, teeth may be able to be refortified. Ozone dentistry can also help with this and I have seen photos that have regenerated teeth from ozone applications. Perhaps if you find a dentist from the link at the top he will be willing to treat all your teeth with ozone for a few months. I think it is something like one ozone gas treatment every 3 weeks or so but I am not sure.

https://www.healthsalon.org/480/horsetail-silica-for-osteoporosis/

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I wish you luck and do hope you won't need any root canals. One of my daughters
had several done - insisted necessary by her dentist, that cost her a fortune.
She eventually had to have all of her teeth pulled and now wears dentures she's not
even 50 yet. She took excellent care of her teeth, saw her dentist faithfully twice
a year, flossed, etc. I think she was about 45 when her teeth had to be pulled.
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nature_lover, recently I feared I needed a root canal so I nightly rinsed my mouth with an activated solution of MMS (five drops) with a little water. Two weeks later every thing is still fine with no pain. The dentist has since not mentioned the need for a root canal. Lots of luck.
Wowww BigAl, that sounds very encouraging. I have already ordered the MMS and should receive it in a couple of days. I would certainly love to share my experience with MMS on my affected teeth with you and others. Have you been taking MMS continuously for 2 weeks and more?

Best of luck in your avoidance of root canal!
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You likely will be able to avoid root canal and this link will tell you how and where. You should be able to find a dentist in the LA area that does this work and this page provides a search link for a dentist.

https://www.healthsalon.org/478/biomimetic-dentistry-ozone-dentistry-avoiding-root-canal-dr-alleman-dds/

You also need to develop new methods to care for your teeth. And this link will help you to do that:
https://www.healthsalon.org/453/cavities-gum-disease-toothache-bad-breath-how-to-prevent-and-cure-oral-disease/

As BigAl said, rinsing your mouth with MMS will help with an active infection but I would not do it forever. Decide on something like a 10 day course of mms mouth flushes then stop. MMS may be too strong an antioxidant for your teeth for long periods of time. Then move on to one of the other protocols in the link above. That will keep the bacterial load down.

Also, if you are drinking flouradated water it is time to stop. When it comes to city water I preferred drinking Distilled and you should be able to find a little shop somewhere that makes if fresh for you while you wait to avoid stuff that has been sitting in plastic gallon jugs forever. Be sure to take supplemental trace minerals.

You will also want to read this page on silica. Like bone, teeth may be able to be refortified. Ozone dentistry can also help with this and I have seen photos that have regenerated teeth from ozone applications. Perhaps if you find a dentist from the link at the top he will be willing to treat all your teeth with ozone for a few months. I think it is something like one ozone gas treatment every 3 weeks or so but I am not sure.

https://www.healthsalon.org/480/horsetail-silica-for-osteoporosis/

good luck
Hi Arrowwind09: You certainly are God-sent and thank you so much for your comprehensive response and incredible links to my urgent concerns to avoid root canal!!

It's interesting that you bring up the Ozone (O3) therapy. If you combine O3 with H2O, the by-products are H2O2 (Hydrogen Peroxide) and O2; essentially we have freshly produced H2O2 along with Oxygen. It stands to reason that preferably the food grade H2O2 with 3% or lower strength with certain usage frequency for teeth should also produce promising results! Are there others, who by using H2O2, have had some great results? O3 therapy probably is an expensive way to accomplish similar results by using food grade H2O2!

It seems that MMS is a much more potent oxidizer than H2O2. Do these oxidizers chemically clash with each other in any way for the human body and/or teeth?

I agree with you about the intermittent usage of the MMS on a certain "duty-cycle" basis to prevent the over-oxidization of teeth & gums. What would be your most preferred protocol after 10 days of MMS usage?

I don't drink tap water but I have been using it for brushing and rinsing my teeth and for showers. Does LA municipal water have heavy dosage of fluorides, which through penetration into my gums/teeth and skin, made 3-4 of my teeth very brittle thereby causing cavities?

I am very curious to learn as to how you found out about the shops which make freshly distilled water? Is there any truth about, "Distilled water absorbs (and therefore robs) essential minerals and amino acids from human body"? Therefore, do you have any preferential trace mineral product for adding to the distilled water?

Do you know a lot of people whose teeth have regenerated with O3 treatment? Have you seen cases with regenerated teeth by using H2O2?
I certainly would study more about how silica (SiO2) refortifies our teeth and makes them stronger.

I have received my MMS kit from Washington and can't wait to start using it starting this weekend! Not only do I have to rinse my teeth with MMS but do I also consume 3 to 5 drops of MMS for overall body cleansing & health with say 10-day "duty-cycle"?

All your wonderful wisdom in this niche' arena is highly appreciated!!!
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I wish you luck and do hope you won't need any root canals. One of my daughters
had several done - insisted necessary by her dentist, that cost her a fortune.
She eventually had to have all of her teeth pulled and now wears dentures she's not
even 50 yet. She took excellent care of her teeth, saw her dentist faithfully twice
a year, flossed, etc. I think she was about 45 when her teeth had to be pulled.
Hi EarlyBird! I am very sorry to hear about the tragedy of your daughter's loss of her teeth due to root canal operations insisted by her dentist. Unfortunately, all of us are treated by the dentistry industry as guinea pigs! Once we are under the dentists' clutches, then they have to justify all their horrible acts on our teeth/gums, so that they can make a living at the expense of our suffering & monetary exploitation! Isn't that a shame?!

Hope your daughter feels better in the near future!
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H202 will not regenerate tooth material is my opinion, since millions of people over the years have used H202 we would certainly know about it.

As I said I have seen studies done by dentists with photographs on the regeneration of teeth with the use of ozone gas applied directly to the injured tooth. The keep the tooth open without filling for several months and give gas treatments every few weeks.

What protocol you choose for your oral maintence is personal preference. I have given you a number of options that are known to work. Regarding my own dental issues, recklass abandon has worked well for me. I do use a xylitol based toothpaste. I have teeth like a throughbred horse, aside for a few mercury fillings as a kid and the required replacement of them I have had no dental issues of any severity in 45 years and except for the mercury issue I never go to a dentist. I do have a few professionl dental pics and I clean my own teeth periodically, maybe once a year. Flossing is required to maintain good gum health.

Look in your yellow pages for distilled water companies. I do recommend the use of trace minerals with distilled water, as well as a calcium/magnesium supplement. only 200mg of calcium is required with 3 to 400mg of magnesium. Don't do that 1200mg calcium dosage the docs talk about. It is insane.

Cleaning up your diet, getting your digestion right and eliminating parasites will do wonders for your general oral health.
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Iodine supplementation can help ward off the accumulation of flouride in the body. Do a forum search on iodine to find out more.
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Iodine supplementation can help ward off the accumulation of flouride in the body. Do a forum search on iodine to find out more.
Excellent Arrowwind09! I just bought Liqui-Kelp by World Organic for the fluorde elimination. Are you familiar with its effectiveness?

I need some clarification on the usage of MMS for my teeth. What exact process and quantities of lemon juice do you use for its activation and how much quantity of water do you take 5 drops of activated MMS with? The amount of water will determine the Chlorite concentration and therefore the resulting potency to get the desired results for gums & teeth!

Thanks so much for your prompt responses!
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Hey BigAl: Can you please clarify how you prepared your activated MMS solution? And, secondly in how much exact quantity of water did you add your 5 drops of activated MMS for rinsing? Did you do only rinsing of your gums/teeth or did you also consume it too? Your story surely is inspirational for me to avoid any root canals!

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nature_lover, for each drop of mms I added the recommended five drops of (in this case) lemon juice and let it set for three minutes. This is what is called "activated" mms. I then added one to one and a half table spoons of filtered water which I then used to rinse my mouth for five or so seconds. I swallowed this solution and again rinsed my mouth this time with only water. I drank the water pretending it was sherry.
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My husband is a dentist here in New Zealand www.dentalman.co.nz , so he won't be able to help you. He is a dentist who treats people holistically. I hope you are able to avoid a root canal because the only other treatment is to have the tooth removed, which then causes the body to be imbalanced.

May I suggest that you eat food that needs to be chewed - otherwise you could end up with gum disease like many of my husband's vegetarian patients that he treated in England. Some of their gums were so inflamed that their teeth were very loose and had to be removed.

You may think that you can look after your teeth without going to see a dentist. However how do you know when you are getting tooth decay and gum disease? Both are like cancer - they do not cause any pain until the disease is well-advanced. My husband's philosphy is to treat when the problem is very small to prevent the inevitable major cost and pain later on.

Find a dentist who does not place mercury amalgam fillings and who practices 'minimally invasive dentistry' for the best results. By visiting your dentist every 6-12 months you can have healthy teeth for life and your beautiful smile will have the chance to lift people's spirits.

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H202 will not regenerate tooth material is my opinion, since millions of people over the years have used H202 we would certainly know about it.

As I said I have seen studies done by dentists with photographs on the regeneration of teeth with the use of ozone gas applied directly to the injured tooth. The keep the tooth open without filling for several months and give gas treatments every few weeks.

What protocol you choose for your oral maintence is personal preference. I have given you a number of options that are known to work. Regarding my own dental issues, recklass abandon has worked well for me. I do use a xylitol based toothpaste. I have teeth like a throughbred horse, aside for a few mercury fillings as a kid and the required replacement of them I have had no dental issues of any severity in 45 years and except for the mercury issue I never go to a dentist. I do have a few professionl dental pics and I clean my own teeth periodically, maybe once a year. Flossing is required to maintain good gum health.

Look in your yellow pages for distilled water companies. I do recommend the use of trace minerals with distilled water, as well as a calcium/magnesium supplement. only 200mg of calcium is required with 3 to 400mg of magnesium. Don't do that 1200mg calcium dosage the docs talk about. It is insane.

Cleaning up your diet, getting your digestion right and eliminating parasites will do wonders for your general oral health.
This ozone treatment sounds astounding with the possibility of regenerating the affected teeth! I know that Ozone (O3) is created from the atmospheric oxygen (O2) by Tesla Coil, Jacob's Ladder, and other high voltage sparking devices. I want to start looking for some portable & compact Ozone Generator, some of which are also used by the Commercial Water Purifying units. I would like to have the one with a tubular outlet with a knob at the end for regulating the Ozone amount. I could attach a nozzle at the end and that will convert into what you could call as "Ozone Flosser"! Have you or anyone else heard of any device of this type, as this would be a multi-purpose unit for flossing, killing bacteria & viruses to stop any local decay, and regenerating gums & teeth, all simultaneously!

I love your idea about xylitol for dental health and therefore I just got a natural antiplaque toothpaste by Tom's of Maine with xylitol, propolis & myrrh. My teeth are smiling back at me with gratitude!

What are the most potent sources of trace minerals, calcium, and magnesium? Congratulations for having teeth like a thoroughbred horse and 45 years of your teeth integrity!!
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nature_lover, for each drop of mms I added the recommended five drops of (in this case) lemon juice and let it set for three minutes. This is what is called "activated" mms. I then added one to one and a half table spoons of filtered water which I then used to rinse my mouth for five or so seconds. I swallowed this solution and again rinsed my mouth this time with only water. I drank the water pretending it was sherry.
Thanks for your exact recipe BigAl, and I just can't wait to put it into action from tomorrow morning! Did you get any nausea feeling after swallowing the solution? Do you feel that Fresh Lemon Juice is a better "activator" for the MMS than the Citric Acid powder?

Just by eating a lot of natural yogurt and using the xylitol based toothpaste, my gums & teeth have already started feeling very healthy. And now the MMS and Ozone treaments should do the final boot to the bad culprits from my mouth! Please feel free to share all your efforts pertaining to your root canal avoidance, and I will keep you and everyone abreast with my progress!
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