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Well, I have not been exactly consistent in taking Vitamin D3 at 50,000 IU 3 times a day but I have taken it about 12 times a week since the last post and I am seeing good improvement in psoriasis on elbows.

The one spot on my knee I am using Lugols topically also, even though it failed previously. My hands are still clear from lugols that I used a year ago now on those sites.

I will try to rev up D again over the next few days, to 3 x day.
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I hope there is no significance to the fact that your location is listed as "At The Door of Death" and under your name is says "Standing at the Portal."

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Much of my life has been about passagways. Rites of passage, creating and facilitating, as a midwife in the early years, as a hospice care provider these days, and other types of passages and quests between these two. Hence standing at the portal and at the door of death.
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This is from a very recent study; and to this, I have to say "Oh dear". I don't have any prostate problem; but this study is of concern.

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High vitamin D concentration in the blood is not associated with a reduced risk of prostate cancer, researchers report in an article published online May 27 in the Journal of the National Cancer Institute.

Laboratory studies suggested that high doses of vitamin D may reduce the risk of prostate cancer, but epidemiological studies that have examined the relationship have reported inconsistent results.

In a nested case-control study, Jiyoung Ahn, Ph.D., and Richard Hayes D.D.S., Ph.D., of the National Cancer Institute in Bethesda, Md., and colleagues compared the vitamin D concentrations in the blood of 749 men diagnosed with prostate cancer with that of 781 men without prostate cancer. All of the men were participants in the Prostate, Lung, Colorectal, and Ovarian Cancer Screening Trial and were included in the regular screening arm. Vitamin D concentration was measured in a blood sample taken when the men enrolled in the study, and all prostate cancer cases included in the current analysis were diagnosed 1 to 8 years after the blood samples were taken.

The researchers found that there was no statistically significant difference in the risk of prostate cancer with increasing vitamin D concentration. The researchers did see some evidence of an increased risk of aggressive disease associated with higher concentration of vitamin D, but the trend was not statistically significant and the association did not show a linear dose-dependence.

"Results from this large prospective study of men who underwent standardized prostate cancer screening in the context of a screening trial do not support the hypothesis that higher serum vitamin D status is associated with decreased risk of prostate cancer," the authors write. "The study showed no association of vitamin D with nonaggressive disease; however, it raises the possibility that higher vitamin D level may be associated with increased risks for aggressive disease, although a clear monotonic dose-response relationship was lacking."

In an accompanying editorial, Lorelei Mucci, Sc.D., and Donna Spiegelman, Sc.D., of the Harvard School of Public Health in Boston reviewed previous studies that have looked for a possible association between vitamin D and prostate cancer risk. The evidence to date does not strongly support an association between vitamin D status in adulthood and prostate cancer risk. They note that because prostate cancer is often diagnosed at an early stage and as low-grade disease, Ahn and colleagues' effort to study the vitamin's association with aggressive prostate cancer, which is the most important clinically, is valuable. The editorialists comment, however, that other groups have not seen a similar association, and Ahn's data should be viewed in that context.

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Thought you might find the June Newsletter from the Vitamin D Council interesting. The subject is how vit D effects autism. Although what I also found very interesting was what he has to say about how vit A disrupts the absoption of vit D!!! Check it out and sign up for the newsletter:

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Arrowwind,

Have you considered using MMS on your knee? Just a thought!

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Did that. Didn't work.
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Ok. Can someone enlighten me to the Vit D fear mongers point of view on the ill effects of too much vitamin D? Any references? I've been doing 50,000 to 100,000 IU a day for over a week. Just wondering what they think. Meanwhile my psoriasis is looking much improved.
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OK. So I finally did it.

I decided that being sub level on my vitamin D over the past year, and probably most of my life, I wasn't gonna take it any more. I had tried fish oil products, etc, some of what I spoke about above.

About a month ago I started with this product:
https://secure.bio-tech-pharm.com/catalog.aspx?cat_id=2

I took 2 D 50,000 IU a day, am and pm for about a week, then went to one a day for about a week and a half then three days before my blood work I went to 10,000 IU a day.

My last score on D3 level was 22. Not good. Today I got my report and it is 130! Normal range is 32 to 100, with 50 being optimal for cancer prevention.

So there you have it. If your D is low this is how to get it up in less than a month.
Next time I would do 50,000 IU one tab a day for a week and a half weeks 10,000 for 2 weeks and get tested and see if that would be closer to the normal range.

I am taking a break from it for a few days then will resume at 5,000 IU a day and get checked again in 4 or 5 months.

I have had no side effects that I can see except that my psoriasis is down to about 10 percent of what it was before I did this! Hmmmm.......wonder if that last 10 percent will go in a while.
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Half of the people who die from disease in North America, would not die if they took adaquate amounts of C and D3.
(Cancer, Heart Disease, and MEDICAL SYSTEM TREATMENT, 1..2..and 3).
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A practical way of looking at it is that anyone 40 years old or older has lost the majority of ability for vitamin D activation.

This often makes me wonder if the loss of vitamin D activating potential is nature's way to get rid of us. After all, after 40, we've pretty much had our opportunity to recreate and make our contribution to the species (at least in a primitive world in which humans evolved): we've exhausted our reproductive usefulness to the species.

Is the programmed decline of vitamin D skin activation a way to ensure that we develop diseases of senescence (aging)? The list of potential consequences of vitamin D deficiency includes: osteoporosis, poor balance and coordination, falls and fractures; cancer of the breast, bladder, colon, prostate, and blood; reductions in HDL, increases in triglycerides; increased inflammation (C-reactive protein, CRP); declining memory and mentation; coronary heart disease.
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Am J Clin Nutr. 2007 November; 86(5): 1420�1425.

https://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/art...medid=17991655

PMCID: PMC2196219
NIHMSID: NIHMS36736

Higher serum vitamin D concentrations are associated with longer leukocyte telomere length in women.

In conclusion, our study provides evidence that a longer LTL is associated with increased serum vitamin D concentrations in women. Although both LTL and serum vitamin D concentrations decrease with age and are thus possible markers of aging in general, we have shown that the positive association between LTL and vitamin D concentrations is independent of age and many other covariates. Vitamin D exerts immunomodulatory effects that may attenuate LTL attrition rate. Longitudinal studies or randomized controlled trials of supplementation exploring the effect of vitamin D on LTL will be necessary to unequivocally establish the relation between vitamin D and leukocyte telomere dynamics; but for the moment, our data suggest another potential benefit of vitamin D�on the aging process and age-related disease.

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I just found an economical source for higher-dosage vitamin D. Each (tiny) capsule provides 4,000 IUs of D. Each bottle contains 300 (tiny) capsules. The cost is $19.99. A good deal, I think.

https://www.vitacost.com/NSI-Vitamin-...U-300-Capsules
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Well, I thought I'd give you an update on tests I had done on 8/18/2008. I took 50,000 IU Vitamin D3 once a day for 20 days, stopping the high dose on 8/04/2008 and switched to 5,000 IU once a day. My Vit. D3 result was up from last April when it was 46.8 ng/mL to 88.4. The reference range is 32.0 to 100.0. So I almost doubled my numbers, but my N.D.doctor wasn't at all happy about me taking such high doses...he said it's toxic. I'm not convinced that it's toxic. Vitamin D is a hormone and I think it helped to increase my DHEA result too, which was 151 ug/dL. It's was 115 last time and the range is 13 to 130. The lab said it was high, but my doctor said 151 is right where I need to be. We seem to have finally found the dose I need for my thyroid too at 50 T3/350 T4 doseage. I take one Iodoral tablet once or twice a week as a boost. Test results for my thyroid were good. I feel pretty good except for my oxygen problems. I believe Vitamin D3 is supposed to help repair the immune system, and, supposedly, the type of thyroid problem I have is autoimmune related. I'm hoping to reverse that in time. I was miserable before finding a doctor that would give me T3 and it has made a huge difference! Fibrinogen is still high though, at 383 mg/dL.
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Nattokinase, although not curative for high fibrogen levels should bring the levels down. You might want to try a daily dose and get rechecked.

I went up to 130 on my vit d lab. That when over 75 percent of my psoriasis disappeared in what seemed practically over night. I reduced D intake due to my MD's freak at my level.

But I think I will repeat my little protocol before long. Only laziness has held me back...

Just think of all the people who report such improvement of P in the summer with exposure to sun. Perhaps I just need more more more.

I don't think it is toxic. I have not found one conclusive bit of evidence.
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