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I used to suffer from bad allergies, but a really high dosage of vitamin C seems to be helping me. I take 1,000mg rose hips in the morning and then at night I take another 1,000mg. So by vitamins I'm getting a minimum of 2,000mg a day, which seems to be helping me a lot and I've been doing it for a long time. I read once that vitamin C is only stored for 4 hours at max, which is the reason I take it twice a day instead of all at once.

Well I started to drink green tea and on the weekends I'm drinking a few cups of green tea and I read online that one cup of green tea has more vitamin C than an orange (250mg), so drinking two or three cups on the weekend I might be on the upper 3,000mg.

I did read that it can cause Insomnia by taking too much? Not sure why and I take it at night, sometimes right before going to sleep. What's ironic is that when I'm reading the side effects, right after Insomnia I read Drowsiness.

I just started drinking green tea everyday, so wondering if now I should drop to just 1,000mg a day in the morning instead?

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I used to suffer from bad allergies, but a really high dosage of vitamin C seems to be helping me. I take 1,000mg rose hips in the morning and then at night I take another 1,000mg. So by vitamins I'm getting a minimum of 2,000mg a day, which seems to be helping me a lot and I've been doing it for a long time. I read once that vitamin C is only stored for 4 hours at max, which is the reason I take it twice a day instead of all at once.

The vitamin C foundation is a good source of Vitamin C information.
I prefer to use slow release vitamin C tablets so the vitamin c is provided over a longer period of time.
I don't think there is any vitamin c in tea. The only way you could improve the Vitamin C content of green tea would be to drink it with a slice of lemon.
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The vitamin C foundation is a good source of Vitamin C information.
I prefer to use slow release vitamin C tablets so the vitamin c is provided over a longer period of time.
I don't think there is any vitamin c in tea. The only way you could improve the Vitamin C content of green tea would be to drink it with a slice of lemon.
Thanks for the link, I'm going to read it now.

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"Green tea also contains carotenoids, tocopherols, ascorbic acid (vitamin C), minerals such as chromium, manganese, selenium or zinc, and certain phytochemical compounds'

Link below has Sencha green tea at 250mg and Matcha at 60mg. Sencha came in second to only Guava having more vitamin C.

SENCHA Green Tea
Tanin: 13.0
Caffeine: 2.3
Amino Acid: 24.0
Fiber: 10.6
Minerals: 5.4
A: 7200iu
B1: 0.35
B2: 1.40
B3: 4.0
C: 250
E: 65.4

MATCHA Green Tea
Tanin: 10.0
Caffeine: 3.2
Amino Acid: 30.7
Fiber: 10.0
Minerals: 7.4
A: 16000iu
B1: 0.60
B2: 1.35
B3: 4.0
C: 60
E: 28.2

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But that is for 250mg in 100g of green tea leaves.
When I make a pot of tea I use just 1 tsp of leaves probably 2g
So at best it will produce 5mg vit c. and because I'm mean I generally re-use the tea leaves so I'll get possibly 3 brews from that initial 2g tea leaves.
I doubt each brew will produce the same amount of vitamin c.

There are lots of good reasons to drink green tea but I doubt vitamin c is a significant benefit. I think it's the anti inflammatory and anti micribial properties that are most important, they tend to boost the lactobacilli and bifidobacteria while inhibiting pathogenic bacteria. A lot of health problems start with inflammatory bacteria in the oral cavity. These proliferate and get into the digestive system. Keeping the populations of pathogenic bacteria, Helicobacter pylori, Propionibacterium acnes, and Staphylococcus aureus under control while enabling beneficial and commensal bacteria to thrive is the most important reasons IMO. However green tea is also an iron chelator and preventing Iron from behaving badly is another excellent reason to keep brewing and drinking Green Tea.
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You can take much more that 2000 mg of c a day. I give my husband 3000 routinely because he is a smoker. up to 10 to 20 grams a day if he is getting sick. I can only tolerate about 6 to 8.

There is now a new liquid vitamin c that is lipsomal and can get you up to blood levels previously only possible by IV administration. They have info on it at the vitamin c foundation for the www.livonlabs.com product. But here is the other that is much less expensive https://www.healthyitems.com/liposomal-vitamin-C-p/614.16.htm they are superior products. will not cause loose stools as other oral vitamin c might.

For allergies I recommend that you look into plant sterol products. I like pycogenol. It has helped me greatly. Another is Sterol 117 from Biogenesis.
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Researchers Achieve Cancer-Killing Effect With Oral-Dose Vitamin C by Bill Sardi

Making Homemade Liposomal Vitamin C
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on a somewhat related note, In Australia they use super high doses of vit c to counteract snake bites in dogs... luckily, I never had to try it on my dog...
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Thanks for that link to making your own lipsomal vitamin C Ted. Its a keeper.
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I read once that vitamin C is only stored for 4 hours
This is true, therefore, you would be better off to take 500mg of C every 4 hours, and 1000mg just before bed. That would be a daily total of about 3 grams.

You could also take quercetin with the C. Quercetin is a bioflavonoid that makes the C work better and last longer.

Personally, I take at least 15 grams of C per day and if I feel a cold or flu coming, I would double that amount.
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This is true, therefore, you would be better off to take 500mg of C every 4 hours, and 1000mg just before bed. That would be a daily total of about 3 grams.

You could also take quercetin with the C. Quercetin is a bioflavonoid that makes the C work better and last longer.

Personally, I take at least 15 grams of C per day and if I feel a cold or flu coming, I would double that amount.
I'm pretty bad about taking pills or bring pills to work, so I feel I'll only take them first thing in the morning and before going to bed.
I used to take quercetin and bromelain, because I had bad alleries, but I noticed that when I increased my vitamin C intake and when I ran out of quercetin and bromelain that it didn't make much of a difference on my allergies. Vitamin C has made the greatest impact.

Did I read correctly that you take 15 grams (15,000mg) of vitamin C a day and up to 30,000mg of vitamin c when you feel a cold coming? I'm guessing this is a typo or it would take me 30 pills to reach that level and seems very unsafe. The upper limits I read all the time is 2,000mg a day, which is what I'm taking, but not at once.

I also saw this graph that shows the benefit on average from consuming vitamin C supplement, not counting dietary sources.

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With reference to vitamin c a recent study suggested that mega dosing 3-4 times a day 1,000mg was the most effective method. Your system will only absorb what it needs at that time the remainder will be discarded. it was also recommended that the vitamine c be from a natural source fruit etc as a lot of the sythectic ( lab derived forms are absorbed differently by your system )
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Did I read correctly that you take 15 grams (15,000mg) of vitamin C a day and up to 30,000mg of vitamin c when you feel a cold coming?
This is correct. I take about 4 grams 4 times per day along with several other supplements.

Linus Pauling was right when he stated that the RDA for vitamin C was much too low.

Its true that your body will eliminate excessive C in the urine. However, since C is a mild chelator of mercury and other toxins, this "excessive" C is not wasted.
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on a somewhat related note, In Australia they use super high doses of vit c to counteract snake bites in dogs... luckily, I never had to try it on my dog...
Interesting Marilyn27! Years back my dog was bit by a rattlesnake. He came in the house holding his paw up, when I couldn't see anything wrong, I shaved it and uncovered the point where he was bitten.

He soon started panting heavily, and I rushed him to the emergency vet hospital. Well, they gave him an anti-venom injection, put him on an IV, and kept him overnight. The next day he was okay, and only my wallet was feeling the pain. I wonder if vitamin C would do for a rattlesnake bite.
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I wonder if vitamin C would do for a rattlesnake bite.
No. However MMS would work within minutes.

The biggest problem would be getting the dog to take the MMS solution.
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https://www.selfgrowth.com/articles/V...acle_Drug.html

In this article Dr. Bate a orthomolecular/alternative therapy pioneer states that vit. c will chelate minerals both good and bad so he recommends taking vit. C 4 hours away from other minerals.

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