Osteoporosis 9 Step Plan - updated

Arrowwind09

Standing at the Portal
Part 1

I wish I could take credit for writing all this but I didn't. It is a compilation of notes and cuts and pastes collected over the last 5 months. I will try to go through it and put in another color stuff I didn't write.....Arrow

Osteoporosis – A Nine Step Plan Part 1

There are two reasons why osteoporosis occurs according to a clinical nutrition perspective. The first and most obvious reason is that enough of the raw ingredients necessary for bone formation are not taken in. It is a myth that calcium is the key to bone construction. It is only one of the players. It requires a synergistic union of a number of compounds and minerals to create bone matter. First and foremost, the raw materials must be supplied and most of these will be in minerals. Secondary are the necessary vitamins.
The second reason is that there are digestive inadequacies that are preventing the ingested raw materials from getting into the body. Inadequate digestion will keep the minerals and other supporting nutrients from entering the blood stream.
In the elderly there may also be hormonal issues. Have the thyroid and parathyroid checked. Do not accept the medication called synthroid or anything similar if there is a hypothryoid conditon. Demand Armour thyroid. An iodine supplement should be considered and the thyroid rechecked after 3 months of supplementation.
1. Silica is essential for the formation of bone matrix, and the repair of tough connective tissue in joints as well as bones. . It provides the body with strength and flexibility. I would take a natural plant based silica product for the best effect. There are reported cases of cure of osteoporosis with the use of Horsetail herb which is very high in silica and which is highly bioavailable. Many cures have been reported in just 9 weeks but for very advanced osteoporosis it of course would take longer.
Purchase it here:
http://www.altahealthproducts.com/silica.htm
I would take 16 capsules a day for for 3 weeks, then 12 a day for 3 weeks, then 8 a day for 3 weeks, and then maintenance dose of 6 caps a day, (2 after each meal.
You know. No one likes the cure word in conventional or alternative health. It really puts people on on a limb of expectation. But my clinical nutrition teacher uses the cure word for osteoporosis with the use of this silica horsetail product. This product may be a little spendy. After the results are seen I would seek a less expensive organic Horsetail Herb product.

2. Vitamin D3 must be increased. Do not think you will get it from the sun as elderly people loose the capacity to produce vitamin D from the sun. Actually this capacity starts to decrease in the early ‘30’s. I advise that you get your vitamin D levels checked. You want the 25 hydroxy vit D3 level test, not any other. You want your D level to rise to between 40 and 50, 50 being optimum. It is very difficult to get a D level to rise. You will need to mega dose on D until it occurs. It may take several months. Recheck your D level at 6 weeks and adjust your dosage accordingly. When you have reached a 40 to 50 level you can cut back but will still have to supplement daily to maintain your level. When you get to this point use a D supplement that is derived from fish oil such as this one:
To start I would use a product like this.
D3 50,0000 iu 2 x day for one week, then I would take it 1 x day for a week, . then I reduced to 10,000 IU daily. After 6 weeks I had my Vitamin D3 levels checked. Now I take a fish oil product equaling 5,000 IU a day for maintenance. This is what I have done but many different products can be used and in different strengths. If I had access to the injection that is what I would use as it is easier than a pill.

http://www.vitacost.com/Jarrow-Formu...ngredientFacts you will need 12 per day! You can divide them out through the day. Fortunately they are cheap!
Vitamin D will help to reconstruct bones and it will prevent cancer.
https://secure.bio-tech-pharm.com/catalog.aspx?cat_id=2
I have been using this above product, in 50,000 IU, one cap daily at the beginning of my protocol. Some people just take one of these a week after their optimal Vit D3 levels have been achieved.
Vitamin D3 Notes from the Bioidentical Hormone Replacement Therapy Conference I attended.

Ellie Campbell D.O. Family Doctor and Bio - Identical Hormone Expert - My seminar notes


Methods of Application of Vit D3
1. Orally
2. Topical D3 replacement therapy lotion
3. Injection

Vitmain D injection
Dr. Campbell recommends:
One time a year injection of Custom compounded
400,000 to 600,000 IU vitamin D3

Most people will be restored with one injection but there are a few who require a second injection and those people may need 5,000 IU daily to maintain a level 50 over the year.
Dr Campbell recommends the injection to almost all her patients.

In the USA there is no RDA for Vit D

1000 IU is inadequate to restore or to maintain a level 50
2,000 to 5,000 IU is required to sustain a D level of 50 depending on size, age and sun exposure

deficiency requires 5 to 10,000 IU per day.
Recheck D3 after 5 to 6 weeks
(400 IU is 1/10 of what is needed)

In India each nursing home patient gets a 600,000 IU injection per year routinely!

D levels of 46 to 50 is of best advantage for preventing cancer

Signs of Deficiency over a long period of time:

Proximal muscle weakness
(They can not get out of a chair unless they push themselves and this is caused by deficiency in vit D)
Osteoporosis
Bone pain
Depression
Brain fog
Insomnia
weak fingernails
weak pelvic muscles

The Right Test – use bioidentical vit D3 as the body can process it better
25 hydroxy vit D3 level
1, 25 hydroxy vit D3 level ( don’t use this test as it measures the 1 25 molecule and it has a short half life and you may think you have adequate levels but it does not last )

If Vitamin D stores are adequate the need for high dosages of calcium are not needed. High dosages of supplemental calcium can cause problems, kidney stones. Get most of your calcium from green veggies and the amount you will need to supplement will be much less.

You need the minerals calcium protein magnesium, iodine, strontium, boron, plus exercise with Vit D3 to prevent osteoporois.

She does not recommend any prescription osteoporosis medication.

If you find that some of the supplements you are taking offer Vitamin D and you are concerned about taking too much do not worry. It is turning out that overdosing on Vitamin D is a myth and largely based on inaccurate studies. As a maintenance dose, after your vitamin D3 levels are testing up between 40 and 50, Vitamin D3 5,000 IU to 10,000 IU daily is OK. As time goes by you may see where you need to level off at but only testing will be able to assist you with this.


3. Vitamin K2
https://www.healthmegamall.com/prodV...s_c_p38099.htm
or: http://www.iherb.com/ProductDetails.aspx?c=1&pid=256
You need at least 90 mcg. This product may help prevent stroke and other vascular issues. If you are on a blood thinner like warfarin/coumadin discuss this with your doctor first.

An abundance of human clinical data reveals that vitamin K plays a critical role in maintaining healthy bone density by facilitating the transport of calcium from the bloodstream into the bone. Few doctors understand that vitamin K is also required by calcium-regulating proteins in the arteries. without adequate vitamin K, calcium in the blood can bind to the arterial wall resulting in calcification. As people age, even a subclinical vitamin K deficiency can pose risks to the vascular system.
Vitamin K1 is obtained in the diet primarily from dark leafy vegetables (lettuce, spinach, and broccoli). Unfortunately, vitamin K1 is tightly bound to the chlorophyll in green plants, thus, aging humans are not always able to benefit from ingested K1-containing plants. While vitamin K1 is not absorbed particularly well from food, it is absorbed from supplements, provided that the supplements are taken with meals.
Vitamin K2 is found in only small quantities in the diet, primarily in dairy products. Human studies show that vitamin K2 is absorbed up to ten times more than K1. Vitamin K2 remains biologically active in the body far longer than K1. For instances, K1 is rapidly cleared by the liver within 8 hours, whereas measurable levels of K2 have been detected 72 hours after ingestion.
Super K provides vitamin K1 and a new biologically active form of vitamin K2 known as menaquinone-7. The menaquinone-7 form of vitamin K is not metabolized quickly by the liver, thereby making it available to provide a more consistent supply of vitamin K to the body.
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Vitamin K Products as described by Weston Price Foundation:

Menaquinone-4 Supplements: Thorne Research and Carlson Laboratories both offer cost-effective MK-4 supplements. Thorne's product is a liquid supplement. The MK-4 is dissolved in a medium-chain triglyceride base (the fats found in coconut oil) with mixed tocopherols (vitamin E). Carlson's product is less expensive than Thorne's, but comes in dry capsules primarily composed of cellulose and other fillers, and allows the user less control over the dose.
Menaquinone-7 Supplements: Jarrow Formulas and Source Naturals both offer cost-effective MK-7 supplements. Source Naturals' product is less expensive, but Jarrow's contains fewer additives and certifies that the soy used to make the product is not genetically modified. Vitamin K2 supplements interfere with the activity of oral anticoagulants such as warfarin. Patients who are using warfarin should only use vitamin K2 supplements with the knowledge of the prescribing physician.
 

Arrowwind09

Standing at the Portal
Part 2

4. Magnesium I guarantee that you are magnesium deficient. Magnesium is more important than calcium for bone construction and the ratio of magnesium to calcium should be al least 1 to 1. Some alternative practitions say 2 to 1, with calcium the lesser ingredient.

For Magnesium take a bath with this at least 3 times a week. Transdermal absorption of magnesium will provide the best application of magnesium. You will also take magnesium pills daily. One does not exclude the other,
http://www.globallight.net/Magnesium...kes-30-Oz.html
Find magnesium chloride product and take 600 mg a day.
Find also a calcium citrate product and take at least 250 to 400 mg a day.

This is a good magnesium product. Really, magnesium chloride it the best for absorption. http://www.altahealthproducts.com/MAGNESIUMCHLORIDE.htm
Take three a day and do the baths also. You must saturate your body with magnesium.



5. Protien. To build bones protein is essential. You need lots of high quality protein. Fish, chicken, eggs are great. Red meat once a week is permissible. You need at least 40 grams of protein a day.

Here’s the hitch. Most elderly people do not digest their protein properly. As we age our ability to digest protein goes way down due to a decrease in the production of hydrochloric acid and other enzymes. You will need an HCL supplement to take with all your protein meals and at this stage of the game all your meals should have a protein.

Twenty years of tests done at the Tahoma Clinic in Washington have shown that 90 percent of individuals with osteoporosis have low stomach acid. If your stomach acid is low, your body won’t be able to absorb calcium, strontium, and other minerals nearly as well, and your results won’t be as good.



This is cut and paste that really tells the story quite accurately about Hydrochloric Acid.

Stomach Acid – From http://www.modernherbalist.com/betaine.html

Individuals suffering with stomach and intestinal problems most frequently assume that heartburn, indigestion, gas, and reflux are caused by overproduction of stomach acid. This common misconception has been strongly re-enforced by our conventional medical profession, whose practitioners routinely prescribe stomach acid blocking medications at the slightest sign of stomach dysfunction, failing to properly diagnose the digestive problem by first monitoring the stomach's acid producing function, using scientific methods and neglecting to provide patients with common sense dietary recommendations.

The Symptoms of Over and Under-Production Are The Same
Strangely enough, the symptoms of stomach acid (hydrochloric acid, HCL) over-production and under production are virtually identical. It is therefore unwise to jump to conclusions regarding what's occurring in the stomach without actual testing.

Medical Misdiagnosis Is Very Common
The pharmaceutical firms with their considerable influence on the medical profession have, through advertising, incentives to doctors and various other forms of indoctrination, made it an almost reflex reaction on the part of most physicians, even many gastro-enterologists, to jump to the conclusion that a mojority of gastric problems can be easily treated by the use of acid blocking medications. Because the American public over-consumes unhealthy food at an alarming rate, the routine use of acid blockers is highly profitable for pharmaceutical firms, provides instant relief for many sufferers, but can bring about long-term health problems for many misdiagnosed users.

Functions of Hydrochloric Acid
Hydrochloric acid serves many functions, the three most important are:
1. It is the primary digestive juice responsible for breaking down proteins, preparing them for assimilation.
2. It acts as a protective barrier, killing many potentially harmful micro-organisms in our food.
3. It acts as a venting mechanism for the build-up of excessive concentrations of hydrogen ions in our blood and interstitial fluids. In other words, we consume acid forming foods and / or engage in acid forming activity, the production of stomach acid uses up considerable amounts of the acid forming material (hydrogen ions) thereby assisting in the elimination of excessive tissue acidity. The stomach acid once combined with food is eventually neutralized further down the alimentary canal by alkaline pancreatic secretions.

Underproduction Of Stomach Acid Is A Common Problem
Based upon the testing of sample groups, it has been theorized that well over half of the U.S. population beyond the age of fifty years is under-producing hydrochloric acid on a constant basis, leading to a host of digestive and immune disturbances. One need not be of middle age to have this problem, nowadays it's not uncommon in younger persons as well. The demineralized, devitalized diet that so many are consuming greatly contributes to this problem, which can be significantly compounded by many individuals' preference for extremely low salt intake.


Directions For Use of Betaine HCL
When using Betaine HCL with Pepsin for the first few times, please be sure to follow the directions carefully. Always take Betaine HCL at the start of the meal! If taken without food, stomach burning may result.

1. At the very start of the meal, take one capsule of Betaine HCL. Monitor how your stomach feels during and after eating. Should any burning or heaviness occur, or if burning has been present previously (before taking the supplement) and is now worsened with the use of the Betaine HCL, do not continue using this supplement!!! This is an indication that your stomach is overproducing acid, or that your stomach lining may be damaged. In such cases, please consider the use of Alkabase, Gastric Complex-HP and/or Mastica, to normalize excess acid production and heal the stomach lining.

2. If the first dose of Betaine HCL provided no noticeable stomach discomfort, try taking two capsules at the start of your next meal, again monitor for burning and or heaviness during and after eating. If taking two capsules produces some discomfort, but one capsule does not, restrict yourself to one capsule at the start of each meal. If the two capsule dose produced no discomfort, try three capsules at the start of your next meal.

3. If all goes well when taking three capsules at the start of each meal, stay with that dosage, most individuals will not require increasing the dosage to four capsules. Regular use of supplemental hydrochloric acid will in most cases "re-train" the stomach to produce higher concentrations of acid on its own. This process may take anywhere from several weeks to several months, depending on the individual. The most significant indication that acid production is improving is that Betaine HCL supplementation can no longer be comfortably tolerated.

An Example:
After having used the Betaine HCL for eleven weeks, at a dosage of two capsules per meal, without any discomfort, Joan now notices that she feels a burning sensation when taking the two capsules. She therefore reduces her dosage to one capsule at mealtime. After several more weeks, even one capsule per meal produces burning and Joan discontinues altogether. This is a sign that the stomach has been re-trained to produce adequate concentrations of hydrochloric acid without the further need for supplementation.

When consuming meals that contain little or no protein, much less hydrochloric acid is needed by the stomach to process its contents. Please keep this in mind when using Betaine HCL as a supplement and modify your usage accordingly.
Be sure the Betaine product you choose has Pepsin in it also.
http://www.modernherbalist.com/pics/betaineHCL.jpg
or here: http://www.iherb.com/Search.aspx?c=1...kw=betaine+hcl

I like the www.iherb.com distribution company for a really good price deal.

Now that you have the help you need to digest protein properly here is a great predigested protein product that will easily amp up your grams of protein. It is whey and is just a great product. I mix mine with apple juice and drink it daily. With a product like this you will increase your protein intake about 20 grams without all the fat that is usually associated with protein intake. Be sure to take a Betain HCL supplement when you drink this shake
http://www.iherb.com/ProductDetails.aspx?c=1&pid=270
 

jfh

perpetual student
Staff member
I also feel that boron is essential for both bones and joints.

Essentiality of boron for healthy bones and joints.

Newnham RE.

Rex Newnham and Associates, North Yorkshire, England.
Abstract

Since 1963, evidence has accumulated that suggests boron is a safe and effective treatment for some forms of arthritis. The initial evidence was that boron supplementation alleviated arthritic pain and discomfort of the author. This was followed by findings from numerous other observations epidemiologic and controlled animal and human experiments. These findings included a) analytical evidence of lower boron concentrations in femur heads, bones, and synovial fluid from people with arthritis than from those without this disorder; b) observation evidence that bones of patients using boron supplements are much harder to cut than those of patients not using supplements; c) epidemiologic evidence that in areas of the world where boron intakes usually are 1.0 mg or less/day the estimated incidence of arthritis ranges from 20 to 70%, whereas in areas of the world where boron intakes are usually 3 to 10 mg, the estimated incidence of arthritis ranges from 0 to 10%; d) experimental evidence that rats with induced arthritis benefit from orally or intraperitoneally administered boron; e) experimental evidence from a double-blind placebo-boron supplementation trial with 20 subjects with osteoarthritis. A significant favorable response to a 6 mg boron/day supplement was obtained; 50% of subjects receiving the supplement improved compared to only 10% receiving the placebo. The preceding data indicate that boron is an essential nutrient for healthy bones and joints, and that further research into the use of boron for the treatment or prevention of arthritis is warranted.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7889887
I also feel that TMG (Unacidified betaine) is safer and more productive than Betaine HCL). Derived from beet leaves. Trimethylglycine (TMG, betaine) is a methyl donor, which means it gives up methyl groups to help the body in the manufacturing of other substances such as neurotransmitters, hormones, stomach acid, cartilage, etc. Methyl groups also help with DNA repair, lowers inflammatory homocysteine, helps with osmotic regulation, boosts energy and immunity, helps with oxygen utilization and lowers lactic acid, etc. There are about 4,000 methylation reactions that go on in the body.
 

Arrowwind09

Standing at the Portal
Thnaks jfh. I havent acutally updated the above posts as I suddenly am having problems moving stuff from one computer to another.:(
Hope to get it done sometime today.
 

jfh

perpetual student
Staff member
I'm also migrating to a new computer. From a desktop to a netbook. I've worked with computers since the punched card; and never had a laptop. I've always had a desktop. I'm also migrating from Win XP to Windows 7. That means, install everything from scratch. At least the desktop is still working, in case I forget something. I'll keep the desktop for printing and volunteer work as treasurer of a wildlife refuge.

I like the portability of a netbook; but find that TV and other things a great distraction while trying to use the netbook at the same time.

Good luck with your migration.
 

yama34

New member
osteoprosis

Hello Arrowwind09,
In your "Osteoporosis 9-Step Plan", the link to order the silica is no longer available

I've been taking "Horsetail Grass Max-V" from Douglas Laboratories.
The label reads: Horsetail Herbal Extract: 300 mgs. (aerial part) (Equisetum arvense L.) Standardized to provide 21 mgs. silica (30 mgs. silicic acid)
Horsetail Grass: 100 mgs. (aerial part)(non-standardized)
The suggested serving size is 1 vegetarian capsule daily----I have been taking 3 daily (as I had read what was on the website mentioned above (the one no longer available) quite some time ago and I thought it had mentioned a much higher dosage.

Would you suggest that I start taking these using the protocol of taking so much for so many weeks (can't remember exactly what it was right now), then tapering down as the weeks go until one gets to the maintenance period.

I'm printing out all of the information you have added since I last read the 9-Step Plan. Thank you so much for all your help!!
 

yama34

New member
osteoprosis

Hello Arrowwind09,

The link to order the silica: http://altahealthproducts.com/silica.htm is no longer available.

I have been taking Horsetail Grass Max-V from Douglas Laboratories
The label states: Horsetail Herbal Extract, 300 mgs. (aerial part) (Equisetum arvense L.) Standardized to provide 21 mgs. silica (30 mgs. silicic acid).
Horsetail Grass,100 mgs. (aerial part) (non-standardized)
It says to take 1 capsule daily.

I have been taking 3 daily as I remember the protocol that you listed of taking so many for so many weeks (can't remember exactly how many now), then cutting back for so many weeks until one gets to the maintenance period.

Do you think I should start doing the protocol mentioned in above paragraph, and is the amount of silica in this product sufficient?

Please respond with any information that would be helpful.

I'm going to print out all of the informaton you have added since the 1st thread on osteoporosis. The actual diagnosis given by my doctor is osteoarthritis and osteoporosis.

Thank you for your hard work in providing all the information!!!!
 

Ted_Hutchinson

New member
Dr Davis has blogged on this topic here.
Homegrown osteoporosis prevention and reversal
I don't like to stray too far off course from discussions of heart disease and related issues in this blog. But the question of bone health comes up so often that I thought I'd discuss the strategies available to everybody to stop, even reverse, osteoporosis.

Coronary atherosclerotic plaque and bone health are intimately interwoven. People who have coronary plaque usually have osteoporosis; people who have osteoporosis usually have coronary plaque. (The association is strongest in females.) The worse the osteoporosis, the greater the quantity of coronary plaque, and vice versa. The two seemingly unconnected conditions share common causes and thereby respond to similar treatments.

Incredibly, rarely will your doctor tell you about these strategies. Your doctor orders a bone density test, the value shows osteopenia or osteoporosis, and a drug like Fosamax or Boniva is prescribed. As many people are learning, drugs like this can be associated with severe side-effects, such as jaw necrosis (death of the jaw bone), a dangerous and disfiguring condition that leads to loss of teeth and disfigurement, followed by reconstructive surgery of the jaw and face. These are not trivial effects.

Note that drugs are approved by the FDA based on assessment of efficacy and safety, NOT proven equivalence or superiority to natural treatments.

In order of importance (greatest to least), here are strategies that I believe are important to regain or maintain bone health. Indeed, I have seen many women increase bone density using these strategies . . . without drugs of any sort.

1) Vitamin D restoration--Vitamin D is the most important control factor over bone calcium metabolism, as well as parathyroid function. As readers of this blog already know, gelcap forms of vitamin D work best, aiming for a 25-hydroxy vitamin level of 60-70 ng/ml. This usually requires 6000 units per day, though there is great individual variation in need.

2) Vitamin K2--If you lived in Japan, you would be prescribed vitamin K2. While it's odd that K2 is a "drug" in Japan, it means that it enjoys the validation required for approval through their FDA-equivalent. Prescription K2 (as MK-4 or menatetranone) at doses of 15,000-45,000 mcg per day (15-45 mg), improves bone architecture, even when administered by itself. However, K2 works best when part of a broader program of bone health. I advise 1000 mcg per day, preferably a mixture of the short-acting MK-4 and long-acting MK-7. (Emerging data measuring bone resorption markers suggest that lower doses may work nearly as well as the high-dose prescription.)

3) Magnesium--I generally advise supplementation with the well-absorbed forms, magnesium glycinate (400 mg twice per day) or magnesium malate (1200 mg twice per day). Because they are well-absorbed, they are least likely to lead to diarrhea (as magnesium oxide commonly does).

4) Alkaline potassium salts--Potassium as the bicarbonate or the citrate, i.e., alkalinizing forms, are wonderfully effective for preservation or reversal of bone density. Because potassium in large doses is potentially fatal, over-the-counter supplements contain only 99 mg potassium per capsule. I have patients take two capsules twice per day, provided kidney function is normal and there is no history of high potassium.

5) An alkalinizing diet--Animal products are acidic, vegetables and fruits are alkaline. Put them together and you should obtain a slightly net alkaline body pH that preserves bone health. Throw grains like wheat, carbonated soft drinks, or other acids into the mix and you shift the pH balance towards net acid. This powerfully erodes bone. Therefore, avoid grains and never consume carbonated soft drinks. (Readers of this blog know that "healthy, whole grains" should be included in the list of Scams of the Century, along with Bernie Madoff and mortgage-backed securities.)

6) Strength training--Bone density follows muscle mass. Restoring youthful muscle mass with strength training can increase bone density over time. The time and energy needs are modest, e.g., 20 minutes twice per week.

Note that calcium may or may not be on the list. If on the list at all, it is dead last. When vitamin D has been restored, intestinal absorption of calcium is as much as quadrupled. The era of force-feeding high-doses of calcium are long-gone. In fact, calcium supplementation in the age of vitamin D can lead to abnormal high calcium blood levels and increased heart attack risk.

These are benign and easily incorporated strategies. They are also inexpensive. I challenge any drug to match or exceed the benefits of this combination of strategies. Keep in mind that strategies like vitamin D restoration provide an extensive panel of health benefits that range far beyond bone health, an effect definitely NOT shared by prescription drugs.
Earlier in this thread you can find a recommendation for ANNUAL vitamin D supplementation. Now how crazy and unnatural is that?
 

Arrowwind09

Standing at the Portal
I do not recommend those high injections of vitamin D. It was notes from a seminar I took that Dr Campbell reported on what they do in India. I can see how it might be misinterpeted that I am suggesting that.. none the less, it has been reported that this protocl works out well for nursing home patients there, with significantly reduced fracture rate.

What I recommend is listed after number 2. I can no longer edit this post. I would if I could.

Light weight bearing exercise does also help. Studies have shown that wheel chair bound people can build bone mass by lifting hand weights at pounds...
 

Ted_Hutchinson

New member
I do not recommend those high injections of vitamin D. It was notes from a seminar I took that Dr Campbell reported on what they do in India. I can see how it might be misinterpeted that I am suggesting that.. none the less, it has been reported that this protocl works out well for nursing home patients there, with significantly reduced fracture rate.

What I recommend is listed after number 2. I can no longer edit this post. I would if I could.

Light weight bearing exercise does also help. Studies have shown that wheel chair bound people can build bone mass by lifting hand weights at pounds...
I wasn't getting at you, just caught my eye and was a bit shocked.
There has been recent work showing measurable adverse effects from annual supplementing.
If you want to understand why I think it's a bad idea I've put a Vieth paper (How to Optimize Vitamin D Supplementation to Prevent Cancer) online to explain in detail I keep my 25(OH)D both high and stable so there is as little change over the year as possible. I'd accept that probably it will be difficult to show any adverse effects from weekly fortnightly or even monthly supplementing but I prefer to stay with NATURAL amounts of D3 your own skin would make given the chance.
 

yama34

New member
Hello Arrowwind09,
Quite some time ago you posted protocol for osteoporosis treatment from a professor whose class you were attending. Is it possible to get that protocol?
Janet
 

Ted_Hutchinson

New member
Hello Arrowwind09,
Quite some time ago you posted protocol for osteoporosis treatment from a professor whose class you were attending. Is it possible to get that protocol?
Janet
Here is Dr Davis's protocol to be going on with
Country Life, Vitamin D3, 5,000 IU because it's in MCT oil = calorie negative easily absorbed, not sent to storage, and very stable.

Life Extension, Super K, with Advanced K2 Complex Good mix of vitamin k types again in MCT.

Bluebonnet Nutrition, Chelated Magnesium Albion Patent Glycinate form, Well absorbed wont give you the runs reliable

Food sources of Potassium may be sufficient so check before using

I use this magnesium bicarbonate water to alkanize my diet seems to work OK as I was producing very acid urine and now it's not too bad.

The examples above are from IHERB because they offer cheapest shipping to UK. If you live elsewhere you may do better at Amazon or Vitacost depending on shipping charge. $5 discount code for new Iherb users WAB666. There may be other equally good choices to meet Dr Davis specifications. The above are my choices and the reasons for them.

actually Arrowind's post is at the beginning of this thread.
 

Arrowwind09

Standing at the Portal
The part that came specifically from my professor was step number one in my first post on this thread. He claimed that silica in and of itself, if supplied sufficiently would cure osteoporosis.. The alta product is more expensive and you now have to call to purchase it... You can substitute Flora as noted in post #8 on this thread.

He said that the silica must be prepared correctly to dose at these high levels and Alta and Flora meet the bill. The rest of the things recommended in my first post are other products that have a reputation for helping or preventing osteoporosis and I would include as many as you can. It general all the other products mentioned will promote health and prevent disease.
 

yama34

New member
Mr. Hutchinson,
Regarding Vitamin K2. There's information on: www.nbihealth.com It is stated that only MK4 reduces fractures, Mk7 does not. A product named: Osteo-K is offered on this website. There is information as well as testamonials given.
 

arizlady

New member
Arrowwind09, Gopdness, I finally found a way to contact you. Read your post tonight and was astonished. Have not read the updates, but just had to ask my question & hope you are still around. When you posted about silica in 2007, it seemed you did not think much supplimentation from calcium was needed, even though you recommened strontium. I read this so fast hope I am not jumbling it. But now, the latest buzz is saying you need to take at least at least the same dose in calcium as strontium.
I was amazed to read the history of this, had previous seen this talked about on Christopher C. Barr's site. Never realized its complete history. Mr. Barr's doseage was somewhat different, but the principle was the same. I am on my fourth bottle of Alta silica, and have been amazed at how much it has helped my sun damaged skin. Not nearly as thin, what a wonderful thing. I have osteoporosis, and do not want to do the drugs all my doctors are pushing at me. It is terrifying to be your own doctor and now is terrifying to do what the doctor tells you! Thank you for this information, I shall read it all thoroughly tomorrow.
 

Arrowwind09

Standing at the Portal
Here is a new link for Alta Silica:
http://www.iherb.com/Alta-Health-Herbal-Organic-Silica-with-Bioflavonoids-120-Tablets/5683?at=0

My clinical nutrition instructor says that Flora silica is just as good..
I do want to mention that the notes I posted from a seminar in the first post are not necessarily what I recommend.. but to let you know what is being done by some practitioners....in regard to injections of vitamin D3 in India.

I am posting the 9 step plan again here because I notice that for some reason the last steps didnt get posted. All steps are important and I have updated some of the links and added some new information. [/quote]

Osteoporosis – A Nine Step Plan

There are two reasons why osteoporosis occurs according to a clinical nutrition perspective. The first and most obvious reason is that enough of the raw ingredients necessary for bone formation are not taken in. It is a myth that calcium is the key to bone construction. It is only one of the players. It requires a synergistic union of a number of compounds and minerals to create bone matter. First and foremost, the raw materials must be supplied and most of these will be in minerals. Secondary are the necessary vitamins.

The second reason is that there are digestive inadequacies that are preventing the ingested raw materials from getting into the body. Inadequate digestion will keep the minerals and other supporting nutrients from entering the blood stream.
In the elderly there may also be hormonal issues. Have the thyroid and parathyroid checked. Do not accept the medication called synthroid or anything similar if there is a hypothryoid conditon. Demand Armour thyroid. An iodine supplement should be considered and the thyroid rechecked after 3 months of supplementation.
1. Silica is essential for the formation of bone matrix, and the repair of tough connective tissue in joints as well as bones. . It provides the body with strength and flexibility. I would take a natural plant based silica product for the best effect. There are reported cases of cure of osteoporosis with the use of Horsetail herb which is very high in silica and which is highly bioavailable. Many cures have been reported in just 9 weeks but for very advanced osteoporosis it of course would take longer.

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I would take 16 capsules a day for for 3 weeks, then 12 a day for 3 weeks, then 8 a day for 3 weeks, and then maintenance dose of 6 caps a day, (2 after each meal.
You know. No one likes the cure word in conventional or alternative health. It really puts people on on a limb of expectation. But my clinical nutrition teacher uses the cure word for osteoporosis with the use of this silica horsetail product. This product may be a little spendy. After the results are seen I would seek a less expensive organic Horsetail Herb product.

2. Vitamin D3 must be increased. Do not think you will get it from the sun as elderly people loose the capacity to produce vitamin D from the sun. Actually this capacity starts to decrease in the early ‘30’s. I advise that you get your vitamin D levels checked. You want the 25 hydroxy vit D3 level test, not any other. You want your D level to rise to 50, with 70 to 90 being optimum with chronic health conditions. It is very difficult to get a D level to rise. You will need to mega dose on D until it occurs. It may take several months. Recheck your D level at 6 weeks and adjust your dosage accordingly. When you have reached a 90 level you can cut back but will still have to supplement daily to maintain your level.
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After vitamin D levels are checked and you find you are around a score of 70 to 90, 5,000 IU a day is usually required fro maintenance.
Vitamin D will help to reconstruct bones and it will prevent cancer.

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Belwo are notes on Vitamin D3 Notes from the Bioidentical Hormone Replacement Therapy Conference I attended. I do not necessarily recommend this... I just place it here so that you can be aware of what some practitioners are doing.


Ellie Campbell D.O. Family Doctor and Bio - Identical Hormone Expert


Methods of Application of Vit D3
1. Orally
2. Topical D3 replacement therapy lotion
3. Injection

Vitmain D injection
Dr. Campbell recommends:
One time a year injection of Custom compounded
400,000 to 600,000 IU vitamin D3

Most people will be restored with one injection but there are a few who require a second injection and those people may need 5,000 IU daily to maintain a level 50 over the year.
Dr Campbell recommends the injection to almost all her patients.

In the USA there is no RDA for Vit D

1000 IU is inadequate to restore or to maintain a level 50
2,000 is required to sustain a D level of 50.

deficiency requires 5 to 10,000 IU per day.
Recheck D3 after 5 to 6 weeks
(400 IU is 1/10 of what is needed)

In India each nursing home patient gets a 600,000 IU injection per year routinely!

D levels of 46 to 50 is of best advantage for preventing cancer

Signs of Deficiency over a long period of time:

Proximal muscle weakness
(They can not get out of a chair unless they push themselves and this is caused by deficiency in vit D)
Osteoporosis
Bone pain
Depression
Brain fog
Insomnia
weak fingernails
weak pelvic muscles

The Right Test – use bioidentical vit D3 as the body can process it better
25 hydroxy vit D3 level
1, 25 hydroxy vit D3 level ( don’t use this test as it measures the 1 25 molecule and it has a short half life and you may think you have adequate levels but it does not last )

If Vitamin D stores are adequate the need for high dosages of calcium are not needed. High dosages of supplemental calcium can cause problems, kidney stones. Get most of your calcium from green veggies and the amount you will need to supplement will be much less.

You need the minerals calcium protein magnesium, iodine, strontium, boron, plus exercise with Vit D3 to prevent osteoporosis. Weight lifting exercise is optimal and small hand weights of 1 to 3 pounds is sufficient according to studies.

She does not recommend any prescription osteoporosis medication.

If you find that some of the supplements you are taking offer Vitamin D and you are concerned about taking too much do not worry. It is turning out that overdosing on Vitamin D is a myth and largely based on inaccurate studies. As a maintenance dose, after your vitamin D3 levels are testing up between 40 and 50, Vitamin D3 5,000 IU to 10,000 IU daily is OK. As time goes by you may see where you need to level off at but only testing will be able to assist you with this.


3. Vitamin K2

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You need at least 90 mcg. This product may help prevent stroke and other vascular issues. If you are on a blood thinner like warfarin/coumadin discuss this with your doctor first.

An abundance of human clinical data reveals that vitamin K plays a critical role in maintaining healthy bone density by facilitating the transport of calcium from the bloodstream into the bone. Few doctors understand that vitamin K is also required by calcium-regulating proteins in the arteries. without adequate vitamin K, calcium in the blood can bind to the arterial wall resulting in calcification. As people age, even a subclinical vitamin K deficiency can pose risks to the vascular system.
Vitamin K1 is obtained in the diet primarily from dark leafy vegetables (lettuce, spinach, and broccoli). Unfortunately, vitamin K1 is tightly bound to the chlorophyll in green plants, thus, aging humans are not always able to benefit from ingested K1-containing plants. While vitamin K1 is not absorbed particularly well from food, it is absorbed from supplements, provided that the supplements are taken with meals.
Vitamin K2 is found in only small quantities in the diet, primarily in dairy products. Human studies show that vitamin K2 is absorbed up to ten times more than K1. Vitamin K2 remains biologically active in the body far longer than K1. For instances, K1 is rapidly cleared by the liver within 8 hours, whereas measurable levels of K2 have been detected 72 hours after ingestion.

Super K provides vitamin K1 and a new biologically active form of vitamin K2 known as menaquinone-7. The menaquinone-7 form of vitamin K is not metabolized quickly by the liver, thereby making it available to provide a more consistent supply of vitamin K to the body.

K 2 has the reputation for assisting in preventing blood clots.

4. Magnesium I guarantee that you are magnesium deficient. Magnesium is more important than calcium for bone construction and the ratio of magnesium to calcium should be al least 1 to 1. Some alternative practitions say 2 to 1, with calcium the lesser ingredient. I think the verdict is still out on this one.

For Magnesium take a bath with this at least 3 times a week. Transdermal absorption of magnesium will provide the best application of magnesium. You will also take magnesium pills daily. One does not exclude the other.

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Swanson vitamins also sells an excellent liquid magnesium transdermal product.


Find magnesium chloride product and take 600 mg a day or
Find also a calcium citrate product and take at least 250 to 400 mg a day.




5. Protien. To build bones protein is essential. You need lots of high quality protein. Fish, chicken, eggs are great. Red meat once a week is permissible. You need at least 40 grams of protein a day.

Here’s the hitch. Most elderly people do not digest their protein properly. As we age our ability to digest protein goes way down due to a decrease in the production of hydrochloric acid and other enzymes. You will need an HCL supplement to take with all your protein meals and at this stage of the game all your meals should have a protein.

Twenty years of tests done at the Tahoma Clinic in Washington have shown that 90 percent of individuals with osteoporosis have low stomach acid. If your stomach acid is low, your body won’t be able to absorb calcium, strontium, and other minerals nearly as well, and your results won’t be as good.



This is cut and paste that really tells the story quite accurately about Hydrochloric Acid.


Stomach Acid – From http://www.modernherbalist.com/betaine.html

Individuals suffering with stomach and intestinal problems most frequently assume that heartburn, indigestion, gas, and reflux are caused by overproduction of stomach acid. This common misconception has been strongly re-enforced by our conventional medical profession, whose practitioners routinely prescribe stomach acid blocking medications at the slightest sign of stomach dysfunction, failing to properly diagnose the digestive problem by first monitoring the stomach's acid producing function, using scientific methods and neglecting to provide patients with common sense dietary recommendations.

The Symptoms of Over and Under-Production Are The Same
Strangely enough, the symptoms of stomach acid (hydrochloric acid, HCL) over-production and under production are virtually identical. It is therefore unwise to jump to conclusions regarding what's occurring in the stomach without actual testing.

Medical Misdiagnosis Is Very Common
The pharmaceutical firms with their considerable influence on the medical profession have, through advertising, incentives to doctors and various other forms of indoctrination, made it an almost reflex reaction on the part of most physicians, even many gastro-enterologists, to jump to the conclusion that a mojority of gastric problems can be easily treated by the use of acid blocking medications. Because the American public over-consumes unhealthy food at an alarming rate, the routine use of acid blockers is highly profitable for pharmaceutical firms, provides instant relief for many sufferers, but can bring about long-term health problems for many misdiagnosed users.

Functions of Hydrochloric Acid

Hydrochloric acid serves many functions, the three most important are:

1. It is the primary digestive juice responsible for breaking down proteins, preparing them for assimilation.
2. It acts as a protective barrier, killing many potentially harmful micro-organisms in our food.
3. It acts as a venting mechanism for the build-up of excessive concentrations of hydrogen ions in our blood and interstitial fluids. In other words, we consume acid forming foods and / or engage in acid forming activity, the production of stomach acid uses up considerable amounts of the acid forming material (hydrogen ions) thereby assisting in the elimination of excessive tissue acidity. The stomach acid once combined with food is eventually neutralized further down the alimentary canal by alkaline pancreatic secretions.

Underproduction Of Stomach Acid Is A Common Problem
Based upon the testing of sample groups, it has been theorized that well over half of the U.S. population beyond the age of fifty years is under-producing hydrochloric acid on a constant basis, leading to a host of digestive and immune disturbances. One need not be of middle age to have this problem, nowadays it's not uncommon in younger persons as well. The demineralized, devitalized diet that so many are consuming greatly contributes to this problem, which can be significantly compounded by many individuals' preference for extremely low salt intake.


Directions For Use of Betaine HCL
When using Betaine HCL with Pepsin for the first few times, please be sure to follow the directions carefully. Always take Betaine HCL at the start of the meal! If taken without food, stomach burning may result.

1. At the very start of the meal, take one capsule of Betaine HCL. Monitor how your stomach feels during and after eating. Should any burning or heaviness occur, or if burning has been present previously (before taking the supplement) and is now worsened with the use of the Betaine HCL, do not continue using this supplement!!! This is an indication that your stomach is overproducing acid, or that your stomach lining may be damaged. In such cases, please consider the use of Alkabase, Gastric Complex-HP and/or Mastica, to normalize excess acid production and heal the stomach lining.

2. If the first dose of Betaine HCL provided no noticeable stomach discomfort, try taking two capsules at the start of your next meal, again monitor for burning and or heaviness during and after eating. If taking two capsules produces some discomfort, but one capsule does not, restrict yourself to one capsule at the start of each meal. If the two capsule dose produced no discomfort, try three capsules at the start of your next meal.

3. If all goes well when taking three capsules at the start of each meal, stay with that dosage, most individuals will not require increasing the dosage to four capsules. Regular use of supplemental hydrochloric acid will in most cases "re-train" the stomach to produce higher concentrations of acid on its own. This process may take anywhere from several weeks to several months, depending on the individual. The most significant indication that acid production is improving is that Betaine HCL supplementation can no longer be comfortably tolerated.

An Example:
After having used the Betaine HCL for eleven weeks, at a dosage of two capsules per meal, without any discomfort, Joan now notices that she feels a burning sensation when taking the two capsules. She therefore reduces her dosage to one capsule at mealtime. After several more weeks, even one capsule per meal produces burning and Joan discontinues altogether. This is a sign that the stomach has been re-trained to produce adequate concentrations of hydrochloric acid without the further need for supplementation.

When consuming meals that contain little or no protein, much less hydrochloric acid is needed by the stomach to process its contents. Please keep this in mind when using Betaine HCL as a supplement and modify your usage accordingly. Be sure the Betaine product you choose has Pepsin in it also.
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Now that you have the help you need to digest protein properly here is a great predigested protein product that will easily amp up your grams of protein. It is whey and is just a great product. I mix mine with apple juice and drink it daily. With a product like this you will increase your protein intake about 20 grams without all the fat that is usually associated with protein intake. Be sure to take a Betain HCL supplement when you drink this shake
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6. Calcium - So What about Calcium?

Women are continually told to take more and more calcium, 1200-1500 milligrams of supplemental calcium per day. It’s a giant mistake. Women who eat a good diet already get about 600-800 milligrams of calcium, particularly if they eat dairy products. Thus they only need about 600-800 milligrams of supplemental calcium with an equal amount of magnesium. About 10 percent of American women already consume excessive amounts of calcium and suffer with side effects (calcifications, muscle cramps, constipation, eyelid twitches, migraines, heart flutters). While it is true that women are losing calcium from their bones on a daily basis after age 40, that calcium is being deposited in their blood vessels (atherosclerosis), joints (arthritis), kidneys (stones), eyes (cataracts), heart valves (mitral valve), aorta (hypertension) and muscles (fibromyalgia, constipation and cramping). Women are trading one disease for at least six others!! The answer to this dilemma is to consume equal amounts of calcium and magnesium. Modern medicine’s answer to calcium overdose is to prescribe over $2 billion of calcium-blocking drugs! Can you imagine, doctors have placed some women on calcium and calcium-blocker drugs at the same time??!!
Women are also mistakenly told they must take calcium and magnesium at different times of the day to ensure proper absorption. This is nonsense. Magnesium does interfere with calcium absorption because that is exactly what it is designed to do. In an animal study, supplemental magnesium reduced calcium absorption but prevented bone loss and increased bone strength. [Journal Nutrition 2000 Feb; 130: 216-20] In a study conducted in South Africa, women who were given 250 milligrams of supplemental magnesium daily absorbed less calcium, but their bone strength increased. [Metabolism 2000, Aug; 49: 1092-96] Calcium by itself doesn’t help rebuild age-related bone mass, it only slows down the rate of bone loss. Women of America.. stop buying into the idea that bone density tests and calcium are your cure-alls.

Find a calcium citrate and take about 250mg a day. Remember, there is more magnesium in bone than calcium. We have been misinformed for many years.

veggies provide the complex phytonutrients necessary to deposit bone into the matrix and some are high in calcium. Broccoli is a winner as is green cabbage, celery, dandilion greens, chinese cabbage, Okra. You should be eating at least 2 foods off off this chart daily that rank in the 30’s or 40’s or greater. Pumpkin Pie any one? Always remember that organic vegetables either fresh or canned will have higher mineral content as they are grown in mineral rich soils.
This chart will show you the calcium content of vegetables

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This is a good product for calcium. You want calcium CITRATE. Mix it in some juice. One half teaspoon will be sufficient.. Do not mix this calcium with your protein shake as Calcium tends to nutralize hydrochloric acid (remember Tums?) Or if you prefer you can find a pill instead of powder. But 250 to 350mg should be sufficient. You should be getting most of your calcium from fresh vegetables. If you can’t eat vegetables increase the amount of calcium you take to about 600 mg. http://www.iherb.com/ProductDetails.aspx?c=1&pid=481

Now the second blockbuster -- 1000 milligrams of supplemental calcium and 400 IU of vitamin D do raise bone density scores, but don't prevent fractures in senior women. The dairy industry initially influenced health authorities to recommend calcium. The dietary supplement industry followed the ill advice as long as it promoted their products.

But there is no possible way calcium supplements can work from a scientific standpoint. Calcium is being lost from bone due to the decline in estrogen production. Think of a fawcet that is dripping calcium into the blood circulation. What good will it do to pour calcium into a bucket of water with a leak in the bottom? All that women have been doing is increasing the amount of calcium clogging their arteries, kidneys, heart valves, and yes, their breast tissue (calcifications are one of the first signs of breast cancer on mammograms). Worse yet, Mildred Seelig, an authority on minerals, cites the fact that estrogen plus calcium increases the risk for blood clots. [Journal American College Nutrition 23:482S-496S, 2004] Dr. Seelig has said the prescription of supplemental calcium plus estrogen also increases anxiety in women, for which many tranquilizers are then prescribed.

So, the 15-year study involving 36,000 women found calcium supplements are worthless, and it predictably increased the risk for kidney stones as well. [New England Journal of Medicine 354: 669-83, 2006] An article in the Washington Post quotes one author of the study saying "I can see how women might be confused." Women? It's the researchers who are confused. One expert said the data were "very sobering." Walter Willett of the Harvard School of Public Health, said: "I think it's clear this study was a mistake."
By Bill Sardi


7. Boron and Strontium and other trace minerals are required to form quality bone matrix.

Taking strontium in addition to calcium is more effective than calcium alone. Numerous studies have demonstrated that strontium does much more than slow the deterioration of your bones—it actually stimulates rapid bone formation. A 2004 double-blind, placebo controlled study published in the New England Journal of Medicine showed that a combination of strontium ranelate, calcium, and vitamin D increased bone density by 9 to 15 percent over three years.1 Research conducted in the 80s by one of the same researchers showed under-the-microscope improvement in bone density with strontium carbonate and calcium. And research done at the Mayo Clinic in the 50s showed both clinical and x-ray improvement with a third form of strontium. (per Dr Jonathan Wright MD of the Tacoma Clinic)

I use a strontium-containing supplement. Look at the following products. One is called Osteo-mins AM & and then there is Ostomins PM. Because some leading researchers state that calcium and strontium mutually inhibit each other’s absorption, calcium is in the PM part of the formula, and strontium is in the AM.

http://www.nutrimed.com/k1110.html or
Osteo-mins AM
Take these pills as directed on the label and it has the boron and strontium in it. Take it at the opposite time of day that you take your calcium. Then….


http://www.nutrimed.com/k1100.html
Osteo-mins PM
Do not take these pills PM AT ALL as they have too much calcium and not enough magnesium. I just put this here so you would understand why not to order it even though I recommend the AM pills.

Trace minerals. This is a good product and since its liquid it can go into your protein shake. You need trace minerals. Osteoporosis is primarily a mineral deficiency disease complicated by hormonal issues and vitamin deficiency.
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8. Exercise. Weight bearing exercise has proven time and time again to increase bone density and should be added to the above nutritional program. Due to the severity of the osteoarthritis a low weight is indicated. Start with about ½ to one pound weight and you may find what you are looking for in the kitchen cupboard. A can of soup or similar product will provide sufficient weight to do a repetitive lifting exercise with. Studies indicate that lifting ½ to one pound weights will stimulate deposit of bone into the matrix. Increase weights slowly. You should not need to go over 2 to 3 pounds in the first year. I do recommend that you contact a physical therapist to develop a weight bearing program specifically designed for you that you can do at home.

9. Hormones –
The University of Toledo has an excellent in-depth description of the role of estrogen, minerals, thyroid hormone and vitamin D, in maintaining bone health. Here is the link to their website:


Eldery women develop osteoporosis due to the fact that they
stopped producing estrogen, which sends a signal to hold calcium in bones. It’s obvious, women need to replace estrogen, but in more mild ways than estrogen-replacement therapy.
The evident answer is to consume plant estrogens (isoflavones from soy, lignans from flaxseed), that are about 1/1000th the strength of human estrogen). [Asia Pac J Clinical
Nutrition 13:S74, 2004]

Barleans High Lingan Flax seed oil – available at any good health food store or Lignans by Flora:
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High-lignan flaxseed oil – So now, if you are convinced calcium supplements are not the sole answer to the problem of age-related bone loss, then what about plant estrogens?
Here again, the answer is simple. Obtain the amount of plant estrogens that women in Asian countries consume, about 25-50 milligrams per day. A good source of phytoestrogens is lignans from flaxseed.
Copyright 2005 Bill Sardi, Knowledge of Health, Inc. 2

To obtain the same amount of plant estrogens as Asian
women, who have lower rates of bone fractures due to
osteoporosis, which of the supplements at left do you
select?

Some flaxseed oil products attempt to add some
flax particles back into the pressed seed oil to
increase the amount of lignans. About 2% of flax
particles are lignans, so 3000 milligrams of flax
particulates would provide about 6 milligrams of
lignans. The North American diet only provides
about 1 milligram of plant estrogens per day,
which when combined with high-lignan flaxseed
oil, is still far short of the 25-50 milligrams Asian
women consume daily. Flaxseed oil is a wonder food, the most concentrated source of
omega-3 oils, but for bone health, women should consume flaxseed meal (the crushed seed), which provides about 25 milligrams of lignans per tablespoon. In severe cases of
bone loss and other health issues related to cessation of estrogen production, purified lignan
extract is also available ( www.brevail.com ) http://www.myvitanet.com/br15eafor2or.html
Crushed flax seeds can be made in a coffee grinder but some people find that it has a strong laxative effect. Severe osteoporosis would require 1 to 2 tablespoons a day that can be sprinkled on cereal or salads. Look into Brevail if you can not tolerate crushed flax seed.

I reccommed bio-idential hormone replacement for menapausal women. Find a doctor who specializes in bio-identical hormones. My hormones come in a troche, that is a melt in your mouth tab. She prescribes twice the daily dose I need and I take half the dosage prescribed. That means a one month supply will last for two months. The troche is easy to split in half. One month costs $30 this way, instead of $60. My doctor says that a woman can start this program at any age and continue on it into advanced years.

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