bed sores

[just me]

i know we have dealt with bed sores in the past, but I need some help... I am doing some respite care for a friend of mine, well actually, I am taking care of her dad for her until this coming wednesday... he came over yesterday. He is in his eighty, slender man, but has apparently been diagnosed with alzheimers..... He does not walk around much, he can only walk with help, so he sits alot. He has to wear diapers. I noticed last night, that he has the beginning of a bed sore on his tail bone.... To me that is the worst place to ever get a bed sore!!!!! It is very red, and you know that worn look when an area has too much pressure... this seems to have been here for awhile.... but he also seems to be getting one or two broken almost like blister type areas.... I have three days to see how much I can help her... I have egg crate foam that I can put in his chair. But I am wondering, if I mix some vitamin c with some honey, will that help promote healing.... Im not sure if he will let me put heat on the area as in a heat lamp type thing, so I think I am pretty limited to what I can do.... figureing that if I wash it all with colloidial silver, and then do the honey and vitamin c, that should help alot, or is there something better I might have on hand that will help. Besides honey, my two basic staples that i always have at the house is an aloe vera plant, and rice bran oil.... will definitly try to rub it with the rbo.... thanks for any help you can give me..... ya'll have a super great day.....

 

[Mad Scientest]

While this might be to much of change from his routine but what about trying to get him to lie on his side :?:

 

[bifrost99]

I've read that garlic or garlic oil does a lot to heal bed sores quickly. It might sting a bit, though.

Gerry

 

[morgan33]

Can you get him to take some colloidal silver several times daily as well? I would be trying several ounces at a time - if you could get him to hold each mouthful in his mouth for a minute before swallowing it would aid absorption. My brother is currently taking a pint a day for his CFS, so large amounts for short periods can be very helpful.

Calendula/hypericum tincture diluted in water and sprayed or dabbed on is extermely useful for this sort of thing if you have a decent homoeopathic supply place on hand (or online) - I have used it for an elderly dog's pressure sores before I discovered CS.

And of course, all the usual vitamins and minerals.

 

[just me]

the only way I will be able to get him to take the colloidal silver, is if I mix it in his drink... he wont even drink regular water. I have been spraying the colloidal silver on the sore when I change him.... internet was out last night and most of today, so I didnt see your responses until this afternoon.... I did go ahead and mix the honey with the vit c, and it didnt look like it hurt it any, but I cant see that its doing any good.... And considering that he will only be here until tomorrow afternoon, I dont see that I will be able to do too much, but suggestions will be passed on to daughter. thank you all very very much... oh and mad scientist, I was able to get him to lay on his side for most of the night last night. He fell asleep that way, so that was a big help.... thanks

 

[pepawbear]

Ahhhh.. one of my most favorite subjects..

Ahhhh.. one of my most favorite subjects.. Why one of my favorite????

Well because the success stories are too numerious to not share what does actually work..

You said you spray CS.. good... keep it up... 10 times a day if necessary..

An I agree with.. Morgan 33. At least a pint a day... at least..

Then add MSM.. be sure the MSM has Vit C and mollidneum, (spelling is bad sorry.. but sounds like moll lid deum..... ) and sea cucumber.

Get an MSM, capsule form, that contains all of the above. With out the Vit C.. it won't work... period...

the best two silvers are not really Colloidal at all.. they are Vision Sivler Hydrosol and Sovereign Silver.

100 times more powerful than the best CS and also,,,, 1000 times safer.

I say this because I know at least a dozen people that had staph infections, bed sores and such.. one was a lady on the other forum who's 90 somethin year old mom.. was bed ridden and had big, large, gaping holes in her back side... of which the doc's said they could do nuttin for. WRONG.. she put her on Vision Silver Hydrosol and Bio MSM and the sores healed... She is now known as the miricle lady of the rest home.

It works.. I know it does and so do a lot of other people.

 

[Jack Pine Savage]

This may not be a plausable choice, but laying/sleeping
on a waterbed helps prevent bedsores. Burn centers
use them. They've fallen from popularity lately, but
still a choice in the hospital system.

 

[Marcus]

Just Me..

You have some good advice here but the single most important thing you can do is to change his position. Believe me, I have dealt with bedsores and have assisted to heal the worst, down to the bone types.

Pressure relief is primary. Most bedsores are not necessarily infected. What causes them is pressure and what prevents them from healing is lack of pressure relief number 1 and poor nutrition number 2. If they don't eat they wont heal.

They don't use lamps anymore. Seems too often patients get left under the lamp too long and get burned. Open to air and light is good though. So are baths or showers.

Alzheimers often won't eat at the very endstage. If this person is still eating you have a chance to heal it. He must change is position every hour when awake and sitting in a chair. If you can get him to lay down change position every 2 hours from side to side and avoid laying on the back for a couple of days but if on the back only for one hour. If the blisters pop and an open area occurs this is a stage 2 bedsore and more difficult to heal but not impossible. The same recommendations as above. Of course keeping things clean is important but even incontinent people can get their bedsores to heal there if they are eating and mobile enough. You must force them to be mobile.

The eggcrate to the chair is good and sometimes I even place two egg crates on top of each other to make a 4 inch thickness.

I really really like a product called Calmoseptine Cream for bedsores. It is not prescription and the pharmacy can order it for you. apply it several time a day as a barrior cream. Remember that dry wounds do not heal as well as moist clean ones and the calmoseptine will assit with this.

In hospice where the dying come to us from hopsital and nursing home riddled with bedsores we manage heal them mostly due to our staff to patient ratio. We have time to turn them. Repositioning is the most important thing. If your alzheimers patient has stopped eating already just keep turning him. After they stop eating it takes about 2 to 4 weeks to die and they will not be conscious enough during the last week or two to notice much discomfort. And also remember that laying on the stomach is an option most nurses forget but can be utilized.

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