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Old 04-02-2008, 10:20 PM
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Okay, perhaps that's a bit dramatic .... everyone knows it's Eric Clapton who is God ... but Sheila comes close. ;-)

Why? I have tried every friggin' conceivable thing to try to get off of Protonix. I've tried garlic, DGL (or is it DLG?), enzymes, probiotics, marshmallo, slippery elm, you name it, I tried it. Nothing worked.

... Until Sheila told me about Neem. (I spoke with Vicki, Sheila, I'm taking the Neem Bark Capsules). 3 in the morning, 3 at night. I have not taken a Protonix since.

I can't thank you enough, Sheila.

6 down, 1 to go:
I am now off:

Cortef
Florinef
Prednisone
Kerlone
Protonix
Loestrin
And, hopefully, within the next three weeks: Synthroid.
I used to add neem to my tea, but I can't remember why.

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Old 04-02-2008, 10:39 PM
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It's conceivable that the neem addressed an H. Pylori infection (or another bacteria) that was generating the GERD.

On the other hand there's this ...

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Life Sci. 2004 Oct 29;75(24):2867-78.

Clinical studies on the effect of Neem (Azadirachta indica) bark extract on gastric secretion and gastroduodenal ulcer.

Bandyopadhyay U, Biswas K, Sengupta A, Moitra P, Dutta P, Sarkar D, Debnath P, Ganguly CK, Banerjee RK.

Department of Physiology, Indian Institute of Chemical Biology, 4, Raja S. C. Mullick Road, Kolkata, 700032, India. [email protected]

We have shown earlier that Neem (Azadirachta indica) bark aqueous extract has potent antisecretory and antiulcer effects in animal models and has no significant adverse effect (Bandyopadhyay et al., Life Sciences, 71, 2845-2865, 2002).

The objective of the present study was to investigate whether Neem bark extract had similar antisecretory and antiulcer effects in human subjects. For this purpose, a group of patients suffering from acid-related problems and gastroduodenal ulcers were orally treated with the aqueous extract of Neem bark.

The lyophilised powder of the extract when administered for 10 days at the dose of 30 mg twice daily caused a significant (p < 0.002) decrease (77%) in gastric acid secretion. The volume of gastric secretion and its pepsin activity were also inhibited by 63% and 50%, respectively.

Some important blood parameters for organ toxicity such as sugar, urea, creatinine, serum glutamate oxaloacetate transaminase, serum glutamate pyruvate transaminase, albumin, globulin, hemoglobin levels and erythrocyte sedimentation rate remained close to the control values.

The bark extract when taken at the dose of 30-60 mg twice daily for 10 weeks almost completely healed the duodenal ulcers monitored by barium meal X-ray or by endoscopy.

One case of esophageal ulcer (gastroesophageal reflux disease) and one case of gastric ulcer also healed completely when treated at the dose of 30 mg twice daily for 6 weeks.

The levels of various blood parameters for organ toxicity after Neem treatment at the doses mentioned above remained more or less close to the normal values suggesting no significant adverse effects. Neem bark extract thus has therapeutic potential for controlling gastric hypersecretion and gastroesophageal and gastroduodenal ulcers.

PMID: 15454339 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1...ubmed_RVDocSum

And this ...

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Planta Med. 1993 Jun;59(3):215-7.

The gastric antiulcer effects of the leaves of the neem tree.

Garg GP, Nigam SK, Ogle CW.

Department of Pharmacology, Faculty of Medicine, University of Hong Kong.

The antiulcer effect of aqueous extracts of the leaves of the neem tree was investigated in rats exposed to 2-h cold-restraint stress or given ethanol orally for 1 h. Extracts were administered in doses of 10, 40, or 160 mg leaf/kg body weight, either as single- or five-dose pretreatment regimens. Neem dose-dependently reduced gastric ulcer severity in rats subjected to stress and also decreased ethanol provoked gastric mucosal damage. The extract appeared to prevent mast cell degranulation and to increase the amount of adherent gastric mucus in stressed animals. These effects may explain, at least in part, the mode of the antiulcer action of neem.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8...ubmed_RVDocSum

The real question is whether it reduces stomach acid (which generally isn't good in GERD) or addresses an infection (like H. Pylori).

Here's an interesting video about calcium's role in treating another cause of GERD (and it's not because of any antacid action).

https://video.msn.com/?mkt=en-us&bran...8-039ebc3801b6

And the accompanying article: https://www.bottomlinesecrets.com/blpnet/today.html
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MMS will get ride of H pylori and reflux. I haven't had reflux since mm. Not once.
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MMS will get ride of H pylori and reflux. I haven't had reflux since mm. Not once.
How long did it take for the reflux to go away on MMS?

My husband has had terrible heartburn with reflux for several years. I am trying to ween him off Prilosec, but he is convinced he needs it. He did come off of it for a few days, because I told him I forgot to buy it until he didn't believe me anymore, then he insisted I buy some more. But during the 4 days he was out, he only had heartburn/reflux two times. That is progress, since he has had heartburn with and without reflux everyday since we have been married.
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MMS will get ride of H pylori and reflux. I haven't had reflux since mm. Not once.
When you say reflux, do you mean occasional reflux that most people have once in awhile? Or, do you mean you actually had GERD resolved by MMS?

I was diagnosed with GERD, sliding hiatal hernia, and mild gastritis a few months ago. I was unknowingly affected by them for probably a year. I'm now on Nexium. But, not excited about it and would like to get off of it.

I would love to hear people's views on MMS or other solutions with treating GERD/hernias/gastritis.
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