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Old 08-09-2005, 05:42 PM
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Default PVP & Retrograde

Hey guys I'm posting again because I need some support. I'm 35 years old and
had PVP surgery back in April. I had full retrograde after sugery.
Up until about 2 weeks ago I starter ejaculating but the ejaculate is clear
like water. Not a spot of white in it. Each time there is a little more
ejaculate but again clear like water.
I was wondering if anyone went from full retrograd ejaculation to normal
ejaculation after PVP. And if so, did it start out like me, first with the
clear fluid?
This retro thing is bothersome to me way more than I thought it would affect
me. I am not engaging in any sexual activity aside from masturbating alone.
I would like so much to hear from any of you about this issue. Thanks for
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Old 08-10-2005, 05:42 PM
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Default Re: PVP & Retrograde

Yes, I went from full retograde to normal and passed thru the clear stage
that you are now in.

Dave
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Old 08-10-2005, 05:42 PM
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Dave,

How long after your pvp did your retro reverse itself?

Mr. B
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Old 08-11-2005, 09:42 AM
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It's hard to say. It did not happen all at once nor was it ever consistent.
I had some clear ejaculate the fist time I had sex post PVP and the
sensation was much different then prior to the operation.. Then it went
full retro. It stayed that way as far as I knew but the sensation started
to improve. I'm a 65 year old widower with multiple girl friends. As a
result I try to conserve my energy and did not always have the opportunity
to examine the results for color or quantity. About a year post PVP I told
one gal that was providing a "BJ", "don't worry I no longer ejaculate". It
was then that we both discovered that my retro had cured it's self. I think
it might be better to take a "hands off" approach with less frequency if you
want to ejaculate. I believe a hard suction also helps it fire the normal
way. Maybe it's psychological? Since that time my ejaculate has become
more and more normal. It's been over two years since my PVP and I think I'm
"normal" now. The quantity of my ejaculate is less then it was when I was a
young man but the sensation is the same and I don't care. At times I miss
the retro. It much less messy.

Best wishes for a full recovery to the ''normal" way, but relax enjoy
whatever your condition is. As long as you can pee, that's the big problem!

Dave
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Old 08-11-2005, 05:41 PM
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Dave,

Thanks for the reply.

I agree that the retro is no big deal. I was just curious as to your
experience. For the first 6 weeks following PVP my orgasms were somewhat
uncomfortable, but they are now (about 4 months post PVP) just fine, and
that is the more important thing!

Mr. B
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Old 08-15-2005, 01:42 AM
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I'm sorry to disagree with you, but for me retro is a big deal. Maybe it's
the age but I don't feel it's not big deal. It's something I have to get use
to and it hasnt been that easy to.
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Old 08-15-2005, 09:42 AM
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Eddie,

I think everyone in this group understands your concern. We all want to be
"normal", particularly when we are as young as you are. As we age we are
just happy to healthy.
If you had a sexual partner, you would not even know to color of your
ejaculate. I believe that the clear part contains the spermazoa and the
white part is a kind of lunch that we provide the spermazoa as we send them
on their way. You probable are able father children right now if you wanted
to. It's been a short time since your PVP and if the PVP was done right,
most of the tissue that makes the white stuff was removed. It will slowly
grow back. You can expect your ejaculations to eventual return to normal.
It's only when you are by yourself that you think something is wrong. When
you have a partner they will not know nor care about the color. If they do
care, find someone else who does not.

I hope this helps,
Dave
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Old 08-15-2005, 04:21 PM
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Default Re: PVP & Retrograde

I have retrograde after my PVP as well but lately I am seeing some signs of
fluid from the urethra. You say retrograde is caused by lack of ejaculate
production due to vaporized tissue. Is that a fact? I assumed it was
caused by either blockage of ducts or destruction of the valve that used to
prevent the ejaculate from entering the bladder. Does anyone have a
definitive explanation? Thanks, Jim W.
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Old 08-15-2005, 05:40 PM
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Jim, my understanding is that "retrograde" or "going backwards" means semen
is still produced, but upon orgasm it flows backwards into the bladder rather
than forward. This happens because the sphincter at the top end of the
prostate does not seal fully after pvp. You can check this out by peeing into
a glass and seeing threads of semen floating around.

I asked my uro about this at my 4 month follow up and his experience is that
50% of his patients have retro and of those, most of them regain normal
ejaculation between 8 months and one year post op.

I had retro for the first 3 months, now it's mostly forward, but sometimes it
goes backwards. It seems to work better if I allow myself to completely
"recharge" between firings. Then the muscle contractions are more pronounced
and it goes forward.

It would be really cool if I could control which way it goes, that would be
so convenient!

Eddie, it sounds like your situation is begining to reverse. Others on this
forum have commented that it took 12 months or more for this to resolve. And
for some retro appears to be permanent. And yes, my ejaculate was very clear
at the beginning. It looks pretty normal now, maybe a little on the watery
side.

Dave


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Old 09-10-2005, 01:42 AM
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Default Re: PVP & Retrograde

This guy's blog explains some neat stuff following his PVP...check it out.
Lots of other info posted there that might help you, too.
https://bph-prostate-enlarged.blogspot.com/ Best of luck to you. Retro
is no big deal...enjoyment is a bit less than the old days, but no big deal.
Hoping everything works out for you.
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Old 06-09-2006, 01:34 PM
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Default How soon after PVP can you masturbate again

I had a PVP 8 days ago. I was told no sexual activity for 2 weeks. Well, I have a pretty healthy sex drive, and on day 6 post-op in the middle of the night, I ended up ejaculating, with no much I could do to stop it. Well the next day, after no pain following the PVP, there was some pain, and a small amount of blood. I guess I irritated the prostate with the climax and some bleeding started. That was two days ago, and there are some drops of blood in the urine if I am sitting, otherwise nothing else. Now I'm paranoid about even waiting another week and whether that is enough time. How long did you guys wait before taking care of business again?
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