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Best to watch out for oneself and supplement based on ones own knowledge than wait for them, or need to or think about sueing.
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How many people do you know taking statins?
How many of them have CoQ10 provided by their doctor?

I suppose they don't want to recognize the fact that statins have damaging consequences and suggesting taking Co Q 10 as a protective measure for statin users obliges them to own up to the fact there are adverse side effects to statin use.
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I have known hundreds of people taking statins. None take CoQ10.

In Europe the pharmaceutical companies forumulate their statins with CoQ10 in the same pill. Why Europe and not us? Maybe someone got sued over there
some package inserts do discuss its need.

Co Q10 is known to help almost all chronic diseases including cancer and that it would help kidney failure is no surprise. It faciltiates the functioning of complex enzyme processes, that our whole life and health rests upon, that almost all doctors choose to ignore.
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I have known hundreds of people taking statins. None take CoQ10.

In Europe the pharmaceutical companies forumulate their statins with CoQ10 in the same pill. Why Europe and not us? Maybe someone got sued over there
some package inserts do discuss its need.

Co Q10 is known to help almost all chronic diseases including cancer and that it would help kidney failure is no surprise. It faciltiates the functioning of complex enzyme processes, that our whole life and health rests upon, that almost all doctors choose to ignore.
Merck took out 2 patents for a polypill containg a statin (Mevacor), and COQ10 in 1990, but has never produced any drugs under the patents.

Taking out patents for the combination of statin and COQ10 has effectively blocked any other drug manufacterer from putting the combination out themselves.

As its 20 years ago and Merck have yet to produce a drug with the combination, it looks very much like they took out the patents to prevent anybody else ever marketing a statin with COQ10.

https://www.heart-disease-bypass-surg...rticles/66.htm

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Merck knew that statins deplete CoQ10, and knew that this could contribute to heart disease. In 1990, this drug manufacturer sought and received a patent for Mevacor and other statin drugs formulated with up to 1,000 mg of coenzyme Q10 to prevent or alleviate cardiomyopathy, a serious condition that can cause congestive heart failure. However, Merck has not brought these combination products to market, nor has this drug company educated physicians on the important of supplementing CoQ10 to offset the dangers of these drugs to the heart. Because they hold the patent, other drug companies are prevented from coming out with a statin/CoQ10 product.
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Even red yeast rice, which is technically a statin, will interfere with CoQ10.

"Red yeast rice, like the statin drugs, can cause myopathy. Signs and symptoms include muscle pain, weakness, and elevated levels of creatine kinase.
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In studies, red yeast rice has been found to interfere with the body's ability to produce CoQ10, which is thought to be a side effect of statin drugs."
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It was known that red yeast rice lowered cholesterol and furthur studies yielded an active component (I think it was called levacor) which was the first statin. It is also a toxin, natural or not, it has negative side effects. It is disgusting that they will not add coQ to these pills and for the europe comment, they are years ahead of the US when it comes to medical treatment. My mom has a friend (originally from serbia) whose brother is a physician over there. He says to eat a kiwi a day for health. Most US docs kno wnothing about nutrition, however, I know a macrobiotics instructor who says he has a couple docs as patients. They refuse allopathic cancer treatment.
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My mistake, it was lovastatin that was discovered in red yeast rice.
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My father has declining kidney function (high creatine). Is there anything that reverses this? (I have read ginger root workks a little)
Hi Saved,

I've had slowly deteriorating kidney function for the last decade due to type 1 diabetes for 49 years, I've also been dealing with CHF almost 3 years.

I've been using CoQ10 for about 3 years and it definitely helps with the CHF. I also take cod liver oil upon my doctor's prescription for heart function and a good source of Vitamin D.

I also juice vegetables including garlic and supplement with things that are high in antioxidants such as OPCs, green tea and Vitamin C, things I've researched and read to assist in kidney failure. I also drink ginger tea sometimes and have even added it to my juicing.

Although they haven't particularly improved my kidney function per my creatine test results, I don't doubt they have slowed further damage.

However, about 6 weeks ago, I added Kangen ionized water to my regimen. My recent labs showed a significant improvement in my creatine number - even my doctor seemed surprised!

Kangen ionized water has 3 properties that assist the body at a cellular level to work better. It has a smaller molecular structure so it absorbs into the body and nourishes the cells more effectively, it is alkaline so it improves the pH of the body, which is essential to good health and healing and it has antioxidant properties 8 to 10 times greater than green tea.

Research in the UK also found that adding baking soda to the diet also has a positive effect on failing renal function:
https://www.naturalnews.com/026920_so...king_soda.html

Improving the pH and increasing antioxidant activity at least appear to be very helpful for kidney issues.

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Thanks BB, I also read somewhere where an alkaline diet helps so that might explain the baking soda
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You're welcome. It seems that all the things we do to improve our health are fundamentally assisted by eating things that alkalize our bodies and balance our pH. Increasing evidence points to a poor diet creating an acidic body environment, which promotes illness.

I've found it to be true!

Best wishes for you and your dad,

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You're welcome. It seems that all the things we do to improve our health are fundamentally assisted by eating things that alkalize our bodies and balance our pH. Increasing evidence points to a poor diet creating an acidic body environment, which promotes illness.
I'm not convinced of improving the alkalinity of the body for health. The body has a large number of mechanisms to keep its pH in balance. Balance does not mean high alkalinity or acidity. The body has a narrow pH range that it will allow. It creates its own sodium bicarbonate, if it is getting over acidified. There is no problem introducing baking soda when you feel an inflamed kidney or other organ. It works for me for occasional use and very quickly. If you make your digestive system alkaline, many problems can occur. There are numerous bad pathogens that get worse in an alkaline environment. Candida is dimorphic. It can easily and quickly transform from a yeast into an aggressive fungus when subjected to an alkaline environment. I try not to defeat my immune system in its own balancing act.

Nettle is one of the best kidney tonics. So are vitamin C and silica, which strengthen the blood vessels and kidney tubules. Schisandra is also excellent; not only for the kidneys but also the adrenals.
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