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Well, dang, I'd sure like to know what bleached my jeans!
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Well, dang, I'd sure like to know what bleached my jeans!
Maybe your jeans had some pathogens that converted the chlorine dioxide to hypochlorite?

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Chlorine Dioxide:
Scientifically Proven Cure For Bad Breath

A safe, buffered solution of activated chlorine dioxide is recognized as highly effective in killing bad breath germs, and neutralizing the volatile sulfur compounds (VSC) they produce in the mouth, and exhaled as bad breath. Target Laboratories has developed a convenient, single-use, easy to use kit that contains a special cotton tongue swab, used for applying the activated chlorine dioxide to the tongue�s surface. The cotton swab is first wrapped around the index finger, and held in place by an adhesive backing. A small vial of diluted, buffered chlorine dioxide is poured onto the surface of the tongue swab, followed by a small vial of a naturally flavored activator. The user simply swabs the top surface of the tongue, concentrating on the back of the back of the surface, wiping away mucous, food particles and debris. The chlorine dioxide soaked cotton swab kills and sweeps away bad breath germs on contact, and instantly neutralizes and noxious volatile sulfur compounds (VSC) that are exhaled as bad breath. https://www.targetlab.com/Chlorine_Di...d_Breath.shtml
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however, in the past couple of hours he has been complaining of fatigue, headache and sudden chills and feverishness. We assume he has "caught something"
Next morning, he had forgotten about chills, fever, coughing. Whatever it was, just vanished overnight!

Now, we are down to 8 drops per dose, that being just under the "I feel ill" level.
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I just got an email from GLN that my kit was shipped. Ordered Sep 27, shipped Oct 4.
It's Oct 22 here in the Philippines, and I got my kit today. A little less than three weeks for $60 is not impressive to me (after getting Bullworkers, which are just as heavy but twice as bulky, in two weeks for $25). Anyway...

Do we really need to warm the water to dissolve the salt? I was thinking of simply adding the powder to a 2-liter bottle of distilled water after removing 380 ml. But I read in the instructions that we have to warm the water. Is this just to speed things up?

Won't shaking be enough?

I don't have a non-metal container to heat 1.6 L of water.

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The purpose of mixing water and salts is, surely, to dissolve. I don't know why warming the water is necessary to do that, apart from speeding things up. Anyway, what is the temperature that you start from - over there in warmer climes?. Our outside temp is 10C/50F today, so I might be tempted to warm things up a bit.

Three weeks - that was a long wait!
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The purpose of mixing water and salts is, surely, to dissolve. I don't know why warming the water is necessary to do that, apart from speeding things up.
Well, whatever. I just went on ahead without warming. I emptied a plastic gallon water container, cleaned it well with dilute bleach and several rinsings of tap water, finalized by several rinsings with distilled water. I then put in the NaClO2, added distilled water, covered the bottle and shook it. In a couple of minutes, only a few flakes remained and in a few more seconds, everything was dissolved.

Looking back, I should've powdered those flakes to make things faster (I could easily crush them with finger pressure through the bag).

So apparently, the warming was indeed just to speed things up.

Now for those bottles, I assume they're not water tight? So I keep my dissolved stock in another container and just use the accompanying dropper bottles as needed?

I still have to listen to the audio that came along with it. And I'm looking forward to trying it out on several canine conditions. I'll be taking some drops myself just to see what happens. :wink:

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I think those bottles are watertight!
I had one from Arrow, which travelled a few thousand miles to get here - not a drop was spilled!

I look forward to learning about animal treatment. How do you get dogs/cats to drink something which is probably going to be distasteful to them?
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Yes, the bottles are quite water tight.

Some folks are using a syringe to get it into animals.

Good luck with your animals, Gerry.

MMS appears to be a great de-wormer so get ready for that!
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I think those bottles are watertight!
I had one from Arrow, which travelled a few thousand miles to get here - not a drop was spilled!
I thought the liquid would drop from the spout automatically. I just found out that we have to lift up the spout.

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I look forward to learning about animal treatment. How do you get dogs/cats to drink something which is probably going to be distasteful to them?
With doses rarely going beyond two drops, it should not be a problem. I might even be making a more diluted batch so that we won't be dealing with mere drops. I would also try injecting the solution, which is why I was quite meticulous in preparing and storing my batch. For this, I plan to first use the solution as is, without acidification.

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Since application of MMS is based on weight, 2 drops per 25 pounds, after activating it I would draw it up in a syringe with as much water as possible based on the animals capacity. I definitely would dilute it in water. You should be able to get 10 cc down most kittens, no?

I am concerned about it being harsh on the stomach. remember, it is easier on them after eating a meal. People who have taken it on empty stomachs have a hard time for a number of hours.

Jim has instructions for preparation by injection in part 2 of his book.
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Thanks for the tips, Arrowwind.

I still have to try things out on a case, but I presume that animals may not like the acid taste (I could be wrong). That's why I planned to start without acidification. Anyway, I think Humble's success without acidification is just as impressive. So I could try it on cases without acidifying, and only acidify if it doesn't seem to work.

I just read Chapter 13. I plan on simply diluting the solution more so that amounts I would be giving intravenously would be less than 3 ml. I'm just being impatient and giving it by drip seems too long for me. But I'll be adjusting as I go along.

Thanks, again.

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I just finished listening to the audio CD that came along with the kit. It was an interview of Jim Humble by Adam Abraham. I was surprised about Humble's knowing about DMSO and his recommending it for strokes (something I suspected ever since I was using DMSO on my patients).

Anyway, I tried the stuff myself just to find out how it compares to my son's apparently severe reaction. I don't know of any specific infection that I have, but I just did what my son did, which is taking in 17 drops. Unfortunately, I was not able to control the dripping from the bottle so I most likely took in more than 17 drops.

I used vinegar to acidify it, and drank it after 3 minutes without adding any water or juice. However, after taking the stuff, I drank some two cups of water to ease the irritation of my throat caused by the pure vinegar. And I took it on an empty stomach at 5:30 am.

After about an hour and a half, I started to feel nauseous. However, it was not severe and in fact, it seemed that I felt it because I was expecting it. I mean, I would have otherwise called it just some "off" feeling, not nausea. I slept this feeling off for around 30 minutes.

From 8:30, I started having "diarrhea" and would go to the john some ten times the rest of the day. It apparently stopped by night time.

This "diarrhea" was quite different in that there was no pain associated with it, nor the "necessity" to go -- I could hold off and just go to the john when I finally decided to do so. I don't think many of us could do that with the pathogenic types of diarrhea.

I was surprised, though, by the amount of fluid I was passing out! Where did it come from? I did not even drink water during the day because I had to go to the office and I liked to make my visits to the rest room as infrequent as possible. (I still had to go some 5 times, though.) Still, all that fluid without me taking any in! And I noticed it had a dark yellow color, making me suspect that my liver was a source. (Liver detox? ) In spite of passing all that fluid, I never felt thirsty (even if I commute by bicycle going to the office). I really wonder what was going on.

Anyway, by 3 pm I decided not to take any chances on dehydration (though I did not feel it) and drank some two cups of water. It did not affect my feelings and the "diarrhea" still occurred a few more times the rest of the day, unrelated to my water intake. Once home (around 5 pm) I drank all the water I could (that's usually about a liter or so), but I only had one trip more to make, and the fluid passed out was not that much compared to my previous bouts. I slept through the night without any incident and no more diarrhea occurred today.

Well, compared to my son who felt knocked out for the day (something that disappeared with me in some 30 minutes of sleep), I did not feel that weak. I experienced the diarrhea he mentioned to me, but the nausea was negligible. My son really felt nauseous and even wanted to throw up. But my son was dealing with a problem. He once woke up early in the morning having difficulty in breathing. Then he coughed out blood for some time. He didn't get any definite diagnosis in his check up (so far), but it just so happened that I learned about MMS and sent a bottle to them. He has taken amoxicillin, as well as co-trimoxazole, but there did not seem to be any effect on his condition.

Being from the Philippines, I suspected that TB might have flared up in him because of his habit of sleeping only by 1 or 2 am (stuck on online computer games) and having to go to the office by 7. Really, really, lack of sleep. Well he's been through three weekends of "death" (as he puts it) and he's had great improvement in his breathing, and a great reduction in coughing out blood (now dark and more like clots, unlike the former frank blood). He started out with 17 drops, backed off to 15, but still experienced the severe reactions. I advised him to really drop the dosage and even do away with acidification, but he reports that even with 5 drops non-activated, he still feels nauseous. Seems like he has a lot more to fight off than I did.

He's taking his health more seriously now and I told him to take cod liver oil, vitamin C and E supplments, and more protein to hasten the healing of his respiratory tract. He just went on the extreme and is going for zero carbs. I still don't know if he's getting the sleep he needs (haven't asked) but one thing the MMS did to him was knock him to sleep. He was sleeping the whole day! "Dead" as he put it. (Well, I did shake off my own "off" feeling with some 30 minutes of sleep.) [Sleep is actually a result of our immune response as well, certain cytokines being secreted so that we get more sleepy. I think this further shows how MMS is working along with our immune system.]

I told him that in case we're dealing with TB, he should find a dose that won't cause any severe reactions, even if it's just one drop, so that he could take MMS daily.

Just sharing my experiences.

Gerry
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Hi Gerry,

Good report. Are you suspecting TB with your son?

I think mms does make a liver detox and a powerful one. This is why so many people report bowel regularity after years of problems.
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