� #1
Old 03-05-2011, 04:19 AM
Enlightener
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Out of sight
Posts: 504
liverock will become famous soon enough
Default Dark Times for Herbal Medicine in Europe

Here is what the European Union will be implementing shortly, effectively a ban on 95% of non European herbs. Most people are totally unaware of the Naploeonic law that operates in Europe. While most countries in the western world have a justice system of the accused being innocent until proved guilty, Napoleonic Law is reversed and assumes you are guilty until proved innocent. One of the most sinister aspects of this is the EU Council of Ministers have passed a law that it is illegal to criticise the EU. Its not being implemented yet, but its there on the statute books. '1984' here we come.

https://www.anh-usa.org/dark-times-fo...ine-in-europe/

Quote:
One of the laws that is set to devastate herbal medicines and products EU-wide, the Traditional Herbal Medicinal Products Directive (THMPD, also known as Directive 2004/24/EC) successfully passed into European law back in 2004. The law will be implemented fully on May 1 this year, and ANH-Intl has exhausted all options other than legal challenge in its efforts to protect the fundamental rights and freedoms of European citizens.

Under this Directive, Napoleonic law rules. Napoleonic law forms the basis of most EU laws and in effect means you�re guilty until proven innocent.

Apply this to products, it means a product is banned, unless it is specifically allowed. The drama for so many herbal products is that they are incapable of getting through the obstacle course set by the Directive. Many are locked out because they don�t meet the narrow eligibility criteria. Others, particularly complex herbal combinations, are knocked out because they can�t be made to meet the technical requirements better suited to single ingredients.

Reply With Quote
� #2
Old 03-05-2011, 04:27 AM
saved1986's Avatar
Lecturer
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 1,354
My Mood: Bitchy
saved1986 will become famous soon enough
Default

Like I mentioned before. The EU has passed many nasty laws. In Portugal restauarant owners and chefs must (by law, under penalty of very very large fines) buy certain corporate produced products (pepper sauces and some other things) and are not sllowed to make them in house.
Reply With Quote
� #3
Old 03-05-2011, 06:09 AM
jfh jfh is offline
Super Moderator
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Texas, USA
Posts: 1,502
Blog Entries: 16
jfh will become famous soon enough
Default

Unfortunately, this is highly contagious.
__________________
- Jim
https://www.natmedtalk.com/blogs/jfh
Reply With Quote
� #4
Old 03-05-2011, 08:18 AM
Lecturer
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Northern Ky.
Posts: 1,610
My Mood: Cheerful
EarlyBird is on a distinguished road
Angry

Sad, very sad!
Just don't know WHY Governments can't stay out of people's medicine & kitchen cabinets?
__________________
May you always have..Love to Share, Health to Spare, and Friends that Care!
Reply With Quote
� #5
Old 03-05-2011, 10:08 AM
saved1986's Avatar
Lecturer
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 1,354
My Mood: Bitchy
saved1986 will become famous soon enough
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by EarlyBird View Post
Sad, very sad!
Just don't know WHY Governments can't stay out of people's medicine & kitchen cabinets?

Beacuse govts are whores for the multinational corporations.
Reply With Quote
� #6
Old 03-05-2011, 04:00 PM
Enlightener
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: im lost, have no idea
Posts: 993
My Mood: Doh
just me is on a distinguished road
Default

so while I know this is not a good thing, and I know they are going to bring this to the US and other countries...is this basically buying already prepared products or does this also include home grown remedies? Do we all need to start planting our own herb gardens now??? I got a book at a garage sale today from the seventies. its called "the practical encyclopedia to natural remedies" by mark bricklin. a quick glance led me to a section titled the the ten most practical medicinal herbs: how to grow them and how to use them. The ten they list are comfrey, garlic, camomile, peppermint, cayenne, sage, horseradish, catnip, rosemary, coltsfoot.. I dont know what some of these do, but I plan on finding out.... my list went with the comfrey, garlic, horseradish, oregano, ginger, onions and basil.... so I plan on adding to mine. my daughter also bought me arnica and feverfew seeds... Im not sure if I can grow those, but I would love to be able to! sure gonna give it my best try!
__________________
God is and all is well
~John Greenleaf Whittier~
Reply With Quote
� #7
Old 03-05-2011, 04:17 PM
saved1986's Avatar
Lecturer
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 1,354
My Mood: Bitchy
saved1986 will become famous soon enough
Default

Maybe that is why S510 passed. You might be able to grow herbs, but you will not be able to give them away.
Reply With Quote
� #8
Old 03-05-2011, 07:12 PM
Enlightener
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Saskatchewan Canada
Posts: 703
My Mood: Cool
pinballdoctor is on a distinguished road
Default

This is all part of Codex.

Big pharma will control all drugs as well as all herbs, just like Monsanto controls the seeds.

This is in Europe now, but will be in North America soon. Then if you want to buy vitamin C, it will cost three times what it costs now, and you will only be able to buy low dose capsules, 60-200 mg.

Most herbs/supplements will be gone.
__________________
Let Food Be Your Medicine And Medicine Be Your Food.(Hippocrates)
Reply With Quote
� #9
Old 03-05-2011, 07:41 PM
Enlightener
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: im lost, have no idea
Posts: 993
My Mood: Doh
just me is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Maybe that is why S510 passed. You might be able to grow herbs, but you will not be able to give them away
I may not be able to give them away, but I cant stop people from coming into my yard and taking them when needed....especially if we grew a community garden type thing!

Quote:
Then if you want to buy vitamin C, it will cost three times what it costs now, and you will only be able to buy low dose capsules, 60-200 mg.
But if you grow roses, you will have rosehips, and you can grow oranges and lemons and grapefruit.... while I know S510 is suppose to stop all that, but with that amendment on there, the little backyard gardener is safe for awhile longer!
Reply With Quote
� #10
Old 03-06-2011, 04:45 AM
saved1986's Avatar
Lecturer
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 1,354
My Mood: Bitchy
saved1986 will become famous soon enough
Default

For those of you who are christians: The Bible is pretty explicit about a one world economy in the end days. Monsanto: Controls the seeds for ther world for the most part and is gaining strength. The banks are all interconnected, there are suppose to be famines in the future and with the gaining world population, it will obviously happen.
Reply With Quote
� #11
Old 03-06-2011, 07:14 PM
Lecturer
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Illinois
Posts: 1,113
Mad Scientest is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by just me View Post
I may not be able to give them away, but I cant stop people from coming into my yard and taking them when needed....especially if we grew a community garden type thing!
I believe that they are working to do something about that also. Like to plant your own garden you would first need to get the appropriate government permit, which will just happen to be prohibitively expensive. Thus forcing you to buy only the latest government approved GMO foods. Many of these laws are already on the books just waiting for a �suitable� crisis so they can be implemented.

Along that same line check out these Executive Orders that are waiting in the wings for just the right moment. They would in effect suspend the Constitution and the Bill of Rights and can be enacted by the stroke of a Presidential pen: Like hello! Is this 1984?



* EXECUTIVE ORDER 10990 allows the government to take over all modes of transportation and control of highways and seaports.

* EXECUTIVE ORDER 10995 allows the government to seize and control the communication media.
* EXECUTIVE ORDER 10997 allows the government to take over all electrical power, gas, petroleum, fuels and minerals.
* EXECUTIVE ORDER 10998 allows the government to take over all food resources and farms.
* EXECUTIVE ORDER 11000 allows the government to mobilize civilians into work brigades
* EXECUTIVE ORDER 11001 allows the government to take over all health, education and welfare functions.
* EXECUTIVE ORDER 11002 designates the Postmaster General to operate a national registration of all persons.
* EXECUTIVE ORDER 11003 allows the government to take over all airports and aircraft, including commercial aircraft.
* EXECUTIVE ORDER 11004 allows the Housing and Finance Authority to relocate communities, build new housing with public funds, designate areas to be abandoned, and establish new locations for populations.
* EXECUTIVE ORDER 11005 allows the government to take over railroads, inland waterways and public storage facilities.
* EXECUTIVE ORDER 11051 specifies the responsibility of the Office of Emergency Planning and gives authorization to put all Executive Orders into effect in times of increased international tensions and economic or financial crisis.
* EXECUTIVE ORDER 11310 grants authority to the Department of Justice to enforce the plans set out in Executive Orders, to institute industrial support, to establish judicial and legislative liaison, to control all aliens, to operate penal and correctional institutions, and to advise and assist the President.
* EXECUTIVE ORDER 11049 assigns emergency preparedness function to federal departments and agencies, consolidating 21 operative Executive Orders issued over a fifteen year period. Endrtimes.blogspo.com
* EXECUTIVE ORDER 11921 allows the Federal Emergency Preparedness Agency to develop plans to establish control over the mechanisms of production and distribution, of energy sources, wages, salaries, credit and the flow of money in U.S. financial institution in any undefined national emergency. It also provides that when a state of emergency is declared by the President, Congress cannot review the action for six months. Dmc.members.sonic.net

Does this sound like the America you learned about in school?
Reply With Quote
� #12
Old 03-07-2011, 06:46 AM
Enlightener
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: im lost, have no idea
Posts: 993
My Mood: Doh
just me is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
For those of you who are christians: The Bible is pretty explicit about a one world economy in the end days. Monsanto: Controls the seeds for ther world for the most part and is gaining strength. The banks are all interconnected, there are suppose to be famines in the future and with the gaining world population, it will obviously happen.
Yep, I understand, but I also know, He always gives a way out..He will always leave a remnant. He will have the last say!!!!!

Quote:
Does this sound like the America you learned about in school?
and we always thought we were free!?!?!?! I was reading this morning about the laws that some of the western states have about collecting rain water. While yes, I understand that those laws were put into place in order to stop large corporations from producing massive rain water collection sites, I also understand that that law and those like it will be used against anyone who goes against the plan...the author wrote something about waiting until the government starts taxing us for air, and while yes he was hopefully joking, he did point out, that our land that we bought and paid for, can be taken away if we dont pay our taxes...and something about scientist say that our bodies arent our own
Quote:
How about the question of who owns your body? According to the U.S. Patent & Trademark office, U.S. corporations and universities already own 20% of your genetic code. Your own body, they claim, is partially the property of someone else.
heres the article about the water collecting
https://www.naturalnews.com/029286_ra...ion_water.html

Now I will say, that after reading some of the comments, I can understand why they have put the water collections laws in place, but all it takes is one screwed up leader, and where does that take us??? After reading your post madsci....there aint no telling where they will go next!
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
government, herbal, regulations


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Summer Solstice Week: Summer Herbal Medicine Chest kind2creatures Nutrition 0 06-23-2010 11:47 AM
Celebrate Spring: Your Herbal Medicine Chest kind2creatures Nutrition 0 03-23-2010 03:46 PM
Cerebral Palsy - Eastern medicine (Tuina/herbal) YusTuina Alternative Therapies 0 11-30-2009 03:04 PM
100 times more powerful, 1,000 times safer. Jabbo Chitchat 4 05-01-2006 04:03 PM