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Funny thing is that I lost more weight when I started to force myself to snack. Before I would never snack at all, so I felt I would eat more. Now I have a small handful of either walnuts or almonds in between meals and I feel I'm less hungry and eat less for lunch and dinner.
Just goes to show how we all vary.
I think eating between meals stops the burning of fat and should be discouraged. I'm sure in evolutionary terms early humans would have only eaten twice daily at most if they were lucky and hunting was good.
I think most of this snacking is because people are bored and really need to be more interested and involved in what they are doing. I bet if you moved those snacks so they were more than 2 meters from where you are sitting you would be too lazy to make the effort and wouldn't be arsed to consume them.
Mindless eating.
Come on. Get a grip. See if I'm right hide those snacks, put them out of sight where it's going to take a specific effort to get them. Top shelf, in another room, and your appetite for snacks will reduce at least 50%. Leave the nuts in their shells and I bet you'd be too lazy to bother to shell them and they would stay there for ever.
Your not hungry your bored.

Get a life.
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What foods feed the lean type gut flora? Assuming we have them in our gut.
bananas, onions, chicory root, garlic, asparagus, barley, wheat, j�cama, tomatoes, leeks and Jerusalem artichoke and its relative yac�n.
I use bananas, onions, leeks, chickory, garlic asparagus tomatoes jerusalem artichoke.
Jerusalem artichokes are in season at the moment. Probably the simplest veg for anyone with access to land or the nerve to plant some tubers in a neglected space No maintenance required, no pests/diseases so just plant tubers in spring and harvest after the frosts.

Globe artichoke (Cynara scolymus) are also bifidogenic as is seaweed and probably flaxmeal.
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Ted, you are correct. There is a lot of truth in ITS WHAT YOU EAT! If you eat bagels or pasta, the weight is not coming off.
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Ted, you are correct. There is a lot of truth in ITS WHAT YOU EAT! If you eat bagels or pasta, the weight is not coming off.
I know it's not exactly straightforward but it's not that hard to understand what causes fat storage if you make the effort.
Blood Sugar: Why you can't lose the weight.
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if ya cut out the bad fats and stick to it
it reduces your intake of processed food.
thats what i have been doing for 6 years and im 12-13% fat
and still have 13" biceps
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if ya cut out the bad fats and stick to it
it reduces your intake of processed food.
So long as we understand that by BAD FATS we mean industrial seed oils such as corn, soybean, safflower, sunflower and cottonseed oil and all those processed foods that contain them you are probably correct.
Good fats, such as butter, lard coconut oil MCT and olive oil are fine and the more you eat the less hungry you are.

What makes you gain weight and keep it on is refined carbohydrate and that means anything made with flour or sugar or HFCS or it's various disguises.
I suspect if you avoided soy and corn in any form you'd be half way there.
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Just goes to show how we all vary.
I think eating between meals stops the burning of fat and should be discouraged.
Get a life.
I think there's a difference if you are putting in more calories from eating more often, then splitting the portions and calories. I personally think vitamins and eating more times a day is healthier than one or two meals. The friends of mine who are proffesional bodybuilders actually eat 6 to 8 times a day, but the same portions of food they would have eatten if they were doing it 3 times a day. Everbody I've meet that eats during their cutting phase looses a lot of weight.

But I have heard that eating more times a day a person feels fuller faster, because they just had something small that at the end they end up consuming less calories, so at the end it might be less calories and not more times a day they eat the reason they are loosing weight.

Personally, I've never eatten that many times a day, because I'm happy with my weight and I prefer eating 3 times a day with eating walnuts or almonds in between two meals
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Personally, I've never eatten that many times a day, because I'm happy with my weight and I prefer eating 3 times a day with eating walnuts or almonds in between two meals
We are not going to agree on this one. I don't think body-builders or other professional athletes are actually healthy individuals their immune function is usually a terrible mess. I understand the reasons why they do what they do but it is not natural and it does not serve their best long term health interests.
I think one or two meals a day are all that's required for good health. The longer we go between meals the better we are able to use ketones and retaining the metabolic flexibility to switch from glucose to ketone burning is the best way to prevent ageing. By snacking between meals, even on healthy foods you are preventing metabolic flexibility being retained and thereby contributing to premature ageing. But it's your choice.
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Ted, I had a couple exercise physiology classes and it is well known body builders are not healthy. Dr Andrew weil says it in his book also. Humans do need 300 g of protein a day, they are slowly poisoning themselves.
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So long as we understand that by BAD FATS we mean industrial seed oils such as corn, soybean, safflower, sunflower and cottonseed oil and all those processed foods that contain them you are probably correct.
Good fats, such as butter, lard coconut oil MCT and olive oil are fine and the more you eat the less hungry you are.

What makes you gain weight and keep it on is refined carbohydrate and that means anything made with flour or sugar or HFCS or it's various disguises.
I suspect if you avoided soy and corn in any form you'd be half way there.
bad fats corn, soybean, safflower, sunflower and cottonseed oil and margarine some of these oils like sunflower would be ok if they were cold pressed

ok fat animal fat, lard and butter (safe to use but don't use more than ya need)

good fats extra virgin olive oil, cold pressed nut oil's, and some other cold pressed oils

i avoid core and soy because of there are GMO unless state otherwise.
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soy oil causes aterial inflamation

cottonseed oil; not meant for human consumption

corn oil too much omega 6
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soy oil causes aterial inflamation

cottonseed oil; not meant for human consumption

corn oil too much omega 6
have you got any info on canola oil
i know that the crops have to be wind rowed so to make sure all the seeds are ripe
because the unripe seeds are poisonous.
canola is a man made plant with lower levels of erucic acid reduced levels of the toxic glucosinolates than the older rapeseed oil that was an industrial oil.
so i still wouldn't consider it edible
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have you got any info on canola oil
i know that the crops have to be wind rowed so to make sure all the seeds are ripe
because the unripe seeds are poisonous.
canola is a man made plant with lower levels of erucic acid reduced levels of the toxic glucosinolates than the older rapeseed oil that was an industrial oil.
so i still wouldn't consider it edible
I would avoid it if at all possible.

https://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/canola.htm
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