What to say? I visited someone in hospital recently. A depressing experience for me , never mind her!
They seemed to be giving the patients dum-dum pills, for the benefit of the staff not the patients - to keep them quiet.
As for the food, to be fair they were trying hard to get it right...perhaps too hard.
Every food group, washed down with orange or apple juice. Okay, but someone in a delicate state of health will have trouble sorting their way successfully through all that...
The hospital shop really summed it up for me. No flowers to lift the spirits. No healthy food. Just wall-to-wall chocolate, sweets (candy), crisps (potato chips) and fizzy drinks!
With a bitter twist of irony outside the shop was a sign saying ' <--- oncology dept.' and another saying 'mortuary --->'
But they still have to fuck you by cheapening the food!
Knight, this is a great thread! People, if you have a loved one in the hospital, take them their food and try organic and fresh. Hospital food is as bad as MCds.
Knight, there was one day when my dad was in the hospital in 09 and he was having a bad day. I gave him some kombucha and the next day he was much much better. Could be circumstantial, but I doubt it.
Don't mean to hijack this thread, but my 85 year old dad just had a kidney stone removed and had a 3.5 hr surgery to remove it and now he needs oxygen for the rest of his life...WTF!, can anesthesia kill your lungs?
Don't mean to hijack this thread, but my 85 year old dad just had a kidney stone removed and had a 3.5 hr surgery to remove it and now he needs oxygen for the rest of his life...WTF!, can anesthesia kill your lungs?
The stress of the surgery can make emphysema rear its head. When your dad gets out have him take serrapeptase a couple times a day on an empty stomach for a couple weeks (assuming he is not on blood thinners). Also make sure he takes the following:
Vit E in the d-alpha tocopherol or the palm tocotrienol form Lower doaseges) 1X a day
Vit C 500mg 1x a day (or more)
CoQ10 120-200 mg a day
And right now (and I mean ASAP) start giving him a good probiotic supplement like dr. o'hiras.
Have his Vit D checked also
And (for a very short period) 100,000 IU of emulsified viitamin A daily for 3-4 days.
Don't mean to hijack this thread, but my 85 year old dad just had a kidney stone removed and had a 3.5 hr surgery to remove it and now he needs oxygen for the rest of his life...WTF!, can anesthesia kill your lungs?
Better question... Why wasn't he given laser treatment to break up the stone so it could be passed naturally..
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Better question... Why wasn't he given laser treatment to break up the stone so it could be passed naturally..
During the 1st surgery they said it was "logged" in and a stint was placed in there (over 3 hr surgery) and the second surgery was about an hour and they used the laser to break it up and removed a second that was at the kidney.
Just funny (not really) how now he needs oxygen to walk around when before he could do yard work for an hour or so and just be tired...but not out of breath or light headed, I think it's a way to milk the system...but if they ruined his lungs I think they should pay. They did say after the first surgery in the recovery room there was a time his oxygen dropped way off and he went into the SCIU unit...wonder if the anesthesiologist screwed up?
During the 1st surgery they said it was "logged" in and a stint was placed in there (over 3 hr surgery) and the second surgery was about an hour and they used the laser to break it up and removed a second that was at the kidney.
Just funny (not really) how now he needs oxygen to walk around when before he could do yard work for an hour or so and just be tired...but not out of breath or light headed, I think it's a way to milk the system...but if they ruined his lungs I think they should pay. They did say after the first surgery in the recovery room there was a time his oxygen dropped way off and he went into the SCIU unit...wonder if the anesthesiologist screwed up?
If the anesthiologist screwed up, they will try to cover their fuck ups. When my dad was in the hospital the day after his surgery he fell out of bed the first night. They forgot to raise the guard rail on his bed. The next day they brought in a very arrogant indian neurologist to look at him and of course they billed medicare and his insurance. DAMN! I hate modern medicine.
During the 1st surgery they said it was "logged" in and a stint was placed in there (over 3 hr surgery) and the second surgery was about an hour and they used the laser to break it up and removed a second that was at the kidney.
Just funny (not really) how now he needs oxygen to walk around when before he could do yard work for an hour or so and just be tired...but not out of breath or light headed, I think it's a way to milk the system...but if they ruined his lungs I think they should pay. They did say after the first surgery in the recovery room there was a time his oxygen dropped way off and he went into the SCIU unit...wonder if the anesthesiologist screwed up?
Under stress at that age if he had mild emphysema, the surgical stress could of made it worse. BE PROACTIVE, use nutrition and do not listen 100% to the doctors.
Knight, there was one day when my dad was in the hospital in 09 and he was having a bad day. I gave him some kombucha and the next day he was much much better. Could be circumstantial, but I doubt it.
Kombucha is yeast-based, so it is loaded with vitamin B and makes a valuable tonic, not to mention its other its medicinal properties.
Going back to the opening post. Hospital food is notorious for its nutritional failings. Apart from that, the other problem is that hospitals don't seem to have heard of vitamin B!
B is water soluble and, excluding B-12, cannot be stored, so it is frightenly easy for anyone to quickly descend into deficiency.
Neurological disorders, like delirium and the demented state so commonplace amongst elderly hospital patients, are classic symptoms of B deficiency.
Tragic that so much misery is caused by ignorance of what are the most fundamental basics of healthcare.
Hospital - no place for the ill!
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