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Default Swine Flu Hits Navy Ships After Vaccine


So could this be true or a hoax?
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Old 09-28-2009, 07:39 PM
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Quote from link above:

9) The truth is that the swine flu epidemic will be created BY THE VACCINE. If we don't take it, there will be no epidemic.

I can totally agree with that statement, and would add a comment to the young women who may read this....

If you ever want to have a baby DON'T GET THIS VACCINE..
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Well, it's definitely not a hoax! How horribly sad - it's not enough
that our Service men and women are losing their lives in combat
in god-forsaken Iraq and Afghanistan; their own country is killing
them with this stupid H1N1 vasccine!
Thank God some of the wives have let the cat out of the bag; my
hope is that this info will spread far and wide. Our Whole country
needs to have this information NOW, before the vaccine is available
for mass innoculations.
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This Flu tracker place, is saying that it is a hoax. I am not familiar with the site, so make up your own mind.


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I read a similar story although it didn�t go into the details, it just mentioned that a navy ship had come down with the flu.

But I don�t find that surprising seeing as how the crew would have been ordered to get the shots. Just like during the gulf war when the troops were given anthrax vaccines some of which contained an immune adjuvant �squalene�. Later those troops developed the Gulf War Syndrome. Naturally the Department of Defense made every effort to deny that squalene was in any of the anthrax vaccine. Later a test was developed to detect anti-squalene antibodies in GWS patients, and a clear link was established between the contaminated product and all the GWS sufferers who had been injected with the vaccines containing squalene.

As a result we lost more troops to GWS then to actually combat.

Now three guesses as to what immune adjuvant is used in the swine flu vaccine.

As far as the Flu tracker place, saying that it is a hoax, I noticed that everyone there seemed to think that getting the shots is the only way to protect yourself.
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The most suspicious thing about the whole H1N1 push in general is the few fatalities that have resulted from it. maybe I am just ignorant on the subject, but does not every flu have some deaths involved?

Why is this one being portrayed as such a bogey man, when it has been less deadly than many other strains of Flu thus far?

Massachusetts has a very onerous and blatantly unconstitutional emergency measure in the process of being passed that is directly related to this.

This leads me to believe that either politicians are even more stupid than I estimated, or this is just a grab for more control over our lives. It is really hard to overestimate the stupidity of politicians, so I am not sure which scenario is correct, or if there is another possibility.


MA Pandemic Bill allows Police to enter homes, Detain Without warrant
Written by Mike Cohen
Wednesday, 02 September 2009

A "pandemic response bill" currently making its way through the Massachusetts state legislature would allow authorities to forcefully quarantine citizens in the event of a health emergency, compel health providers to vaccinate citizens, authorize forceful entry into private dwellings and destruction of citizen property and impose fines on citizens for noncompliance.

If citizens refuse to comply with isolation or quarantine orders in the event of a health emergency, they may be imprisoned for up to 30 days and fined $1,000 per day that the violation continues.

Massachusetts' pandemic response bill

"Pandemic Response Bill" 2028 was passed by the Massachusetts state Senate on April 28 and is now awaiting approval in the House.

As stated in the bill, upon declaration by the governor that an emergency exists that is considered detrimental to public health or upon declaration of a state of emergency, a local public health authority, with approval of the commissioner, may exercise the following authorities (emphasis added):

* to require the owner or occupier of premises to permit entry into and investigation of the premises;

* to close, direct, and compel the evacuation of, or to decontaminate or cause to be decontaminated any building or facility, and to allow the reopening of the building or facility when the danger has ended;

* to decontaminate or cause to be decontaminated, or to destroy any material;

* to restrict or prohibit assemblages of persons;

* to require a health care facility to provide services or the use of its facility, or to transfer the management and supervision of the health care facility to the department or to a local public health authority;

* to control ingress to and egress from any stricken or threatened public area, and the movement of persons and materials within the area;

* to adopt and enforce measures to provide for the safe disposal of infectious waste and human remains, provided that religious, cultural, family, and individual beliefs of the deceased person shall be followed to the extent possible when disposing of human remains, whenever that may be done without endangering the public health;

* to procure, take immediate possession from any source, store, or distribute any anti-toxins, serums, vaccines, immunizing agents, antibiotics, and other pharmaceutical agents or medical supplies located within the commonwealth as may be necessary to respond to the emergency;

* to require in-state health care providers to assist in the performance of vaccination, treatment, examination, or testing of any individual as a condition of licensure, authorization, or the ability to continue to function as a health care provider in the commonwealth;

* to waive the commonwealth's licensing requirements for health care professionals with a valid license from another state in the United States or whose professional training would otherwise qualify them for an appropriate professional license in the commonwealth;

* to allow for the dispensing of controlled substance by appropriate personnel consistent with federal statutes as necessary for the prevention or treatment of illness;

* to authorize the chief medical examiner to appoint and prescribe the duties of such emergency assistant medical examiners as may be required for the proper performance of the duties of office;

* to collect specimens and perform tests on any animal, living or deceased;

* to exercise authority under sections 95 and 96 of chapter 111;

* to care for any emerging mental health or crisis counseling needs that individuals may exhibit, with the consent of the individuals

State and local agencies responding to the public health emergency would be required to exercise their powers over transportation routes, communication devices, carriers, public utilities, fuels, food, clothing and shelter, according to the legislation.

Local public health authorities will be required to keep records of reports containing the name and location of all people who have been reported, their disease, injury, or health condition and the name of the person reporting the case. In addition, citizens may be subject to "involuntary transportation."

Line 341 of the bill states, "Law enforcement authorities, upon order of the commissioner or his agent or at the request of a local public health authority pursuant to such order, shall assist emergency medical technicians or other appropriate medical personnel in the involuntary transportation of such person to the tuberculosis treatment center. No law enforcement authority or medical personnel shall be held criminally or civilly liable as a result of an act or omission carried out in good faith in reliance on said order."
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To me I find this bill to be way more scary then the possibility of catching the flu. It amounts to the complete nullification of the constitution. In effect it authorizes the creation of an all powerful police state were the individual has no rights. I would like to think that�s not their goal but really I�m not to sure about that.

Meanwhile from what I�ve read many people have found the swine flu to be mild compared to the regular flu, so much so that some didn�t even realize that they had it.
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Looks like they are using medicine to bring in gestapo tactics, taking away our freedom through the back door.
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