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So swine flu is upon us and currently is has a 7% death rate in Mexico City taking out what seems to be quite healthy young people. Now possibly 75 students in NYC may have it. They are testing. 8 confirmed cases in the US and all have survived so far.

Here is the thread on Vitamin C and how to use it to bowel tolerance. It is the most likely treatment I will administer if it comes this way. Hopefully it will move slowly enough so we can figure out how to best manage it without shooting in the dark.


How To Use Vitamin C for Disease

so here is the dosage for flu:
influenza...................................100 - 150 grams in 24 hours.
Be aware that you have enough on hand to dose this much.
For the 5 of us I ordered 10 bottles of 250 1 gram caps. ( a gram = 1,000 mg)

https://www.vitacost.com/NSI-Vitamin-...g-250-Capsules
and if you have small children you will want chewable 500mg tabs.
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Yeah, it's really like something out of a sci-fi movie since we don't have a natural immunity to an "animal gene" virus.
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Population reduction? Who made this one?
Elderberry, colloidal silver and oregano oil for me.

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Why not us MMS?

It certainly kills Flu and Cold viruses from my experience. It actually kills them a little too fast for the body, but dosage could be adjusted to compensate.

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my preference is large doses of vitamin c.. my kid like mms.. but it just makes me gag these days. With mms and vitamin C you have to make a choice. Can't use them together.
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Received this today posted on another forum that I belong to:
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Here is the April 15, 2009 report from :

Total Health Breakthroughs
- by Melanie Segala

"Seasonal flu vaccines manufactured by US-based pharmaceutical company
Baxter International have been contaminated with the deadly avian flu virus
called H5N1. The contaminated vaccine made by a Baxter facility in
Orth-Donau, Austria was shipped to numerous distributors in Austria,
Germany, Slovenia, and the Czech Republic.

"Were it not for the good sense of a lab in the Czech Republic that
inoculated ferrets with the serum to check its safety, we might now be
facing a global pandemic of avian flu -- of which there is a 60% mortality
rate.2 The fact that the ferrets died soon after they were given the vaccine
raised a red flag to scientists and government authorities. Ferrets should
not die when exposed to seasonal flu viruses.

"What makes this situation even more chilling is that the avian flu virus by
itself does not easily infect people. But when mixed with an easily
transmissible strain like the seasonal flu virus, the hybrid strain can be
just as contagious.

"How could Baxter have let this happen? Was it intentional as some people
believe? Even the respected Dr. Mercola has his suspicions.4 A pandemic
would certainly trigger a worldwide demand for the avian flu vaccine. Baxter
happens to be one of only six international companies licensed to develop
flu vaccines. If a pandemic occurred...well , you can do the math in terms
of profits to be made.

"The other possibility is that Baxter was not following its own stringent
biosafety protocol to prevent cross-contamination of infectious materials.
This protocol, called Biosafety Level 3 (BSL3), if followed, makes it
virtually impossible for a situation like this to occur.2

"Could a major pharmaceutical company really be so careless in handling an
infectious agent that could possibly kill tens of millions of people? If so,
should they even be allowed to remain in business? The human race can't
afford mistakes of this magnitude.

"Not surprisingly, Baxter has said little on the subject. Christopher Bona,
Baxter's Director of Global Bioscience Communications said the
cross-contamination occurred as "the result of a combination of just the
process itself, (and) technical and human error in this procedure."3 He
declined to say more because he did not want to reveal proprietary secrets
about their production process. (If anyone wants to steal that kind of
production process, they should be first in line for one of Baxter's
vaccines.)

"We can only pray that Baxter doesn't get off the hook with such a vague
excuse. They would like nothing better than for this story to just go away
so that the American public, which is already skittish about vaccines,
doesn't rise up in total revolt against them.

"And sadly enough, the Western media seem to be helping them in keeping the
story quiet. Has anyone really heard much about this terrifying near miss
from the major news outlets in the US? Do we know if any Baxter employee or
executive will be held accountable? Most importantly, can we be assured that
this kind of mistake (if it was a mistake) can't and won't happen again?

"In last week's issue, I told you about a new group called People for
Immunization (PFI) that will be traveling across the US to reassure the
public about the safety and necessity of vaccines. Before they give you
their sales pitch, let them answer the questions raised in this article."

References
Vaccines as Biological Weapons? Live Avian Flu Virus Placed in Baxter Vaccine Materials Sent to 18 Countries by Mike Adams the Health Ranger.
‘Accidental’ Contamination Of Vaccine With Live Avian Flu Virus Virtually Impossible.
Conspiracy Planet - Vaccination Scam - Baxter BioTerrorism: Avian Flu Virus in Vaccine.
Were Tainted Vaccines a Conspiracy to Provoke a Pandemic?.
https://www.torontosun.com/news/canad...7/8560781.html

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A warning on Dr D'Adamo's forum [www.dadamo.com]

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Elderberry should be used only by people under 15 or over 35 during active infection. It can be used by others as a preventive.

Yes, it has to do with it having the potential to ramp up cytokines, which increased the inflammatory reaction. This is more of a problem with people in that age group (older and younger people have a more moderated immune response)
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I seem to remember reading [somewhere?] that many flu deaths in the past have been attributed to an overly active immune response.

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Received this today posted on another forum that I belong to:
***********************************************

Here is the April 15, 2009 report from :

Total Health Breakthroughs
- by Melanie Segala

"Seasonal flu vaccines manufactured by US-based pharmaceutical company
Baxter International have been contaminated with the deadly avian flu virus
called H5N1. The contaminated vaccine made by a Baxter facility in
Orth-Donau, Austria was shipped to numerous distributors in Austria,
Germany, Slovenia, and the Czech Republic.

"Were it not for the good sense of a lab in the Czech Republic that
inoculated ferrets with the serum to check its safety, we might now be
facing a global pandemic of avian flu -- of which there is a 60% mortality
rate.2 The fact that the ferrets died soon after they were given the vaccine
raised a red flag to scientists and government authorities. Ferrets should
not die when exposed to seasonal flu viruses.

"What makes this situation even more chilling is that the avian flu virus by
itself does not easily infect people. But when mixed with an easily
transmissible strain like the seasonal flu virus, the hybrid strain can be
just as contagious.

"How could Baxter have let this happen? Was it intentional as some people
believe? Even the respected Dr. Mercola has his suspicions.4 A pandemic
would certainly trigger a worldwide demand for the avian flu vaccine. Baxter
happens to be one of only six international companies licensed to develop
flu vaccines. If a pandemic occurred...well , you can do the math in terms
of profits to be made.
References
Vaccines as Biological Weapons? Live Avian Flu Virus Placed in Baxter Vaccine Materials Sent to 18 Countries by Mike Adams the Health Ranger.
‘Accidental’ Contamination Of Vaccine With Live Avian Flu Virus Virtually Impossible.
Conspiracy Planet - Vaccination Scam - Baxter BioTerrorism: Avian Flu Virus in Vaccine.
Were Tainted Vaccines a Conspiracy to Provoke a Pandemic?.
https://www.torontosun.com/news/canad...7/8560781.html
Wow, nightowl, this is really frightening.. haven't had time to read it all yet. Did any people actually receive this vaccine? Reminds me of the Bayer company shipping HIV loaded pharmaceuticals overseas..

If anyone questions the presence of evil in the pharmaceutical empire here is the evidence..

If anyone finds any websites that are not so conspiracy theory oriented covering this topic please post them. I'll add this one to the references.
https://www.torontosun.com/news/canad...7/8560781.html
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Joyce, you give this quote from Dr. D'Adamo:

"Elderberry should be used only by people under 15 or over 35 during active infection. It can be used by others as a preventive."

I have look through some things on his website but am unable to find this. Can you give me some help?
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Mari,

It's on the forum - thread 'swine flu' - I think you have to register to read.

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Im curious to know, and correct me if Im wrong...but wasnt obama in mexico???? what precautions are they reporting that he is taking to make sure he doesnt infect others?
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Was Obama really infected? I read somewhere that they denied it.
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How would we know if he was infected, unless he gets really really sick and has to go to the hospital.... But if he was in mexico, wouldnt it be wise if he stayed away from people for a two week period or something... How long does it take for symptoms to show up once you have been exposed?
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I thought that a lot of people, especially older folks, died from the flu due to pneumonia. Has anyone ever used this Molecular Silver, that's spposed to be used with a vaporizer? I thought if it worked, it could be a life-saver.

Let's start out by telling you about a remarkable product that has had great success in treating pneumonia and bronchitis, a specially processed liquid molecular silver formulation with a very small amount of hydrogen peroxide, called Respiratory Support.

Silver has been used for years to fight infections. That�s because silver particles kill virtually every type of pathogen there is. Viruses, bacteria, mycoplasma, parasites. You name it. Any of the pathogens that are causing your pneumonia. Even viruses or a super-bug that has mutated so that antibiotics don�t kill it. Here�s how they work.

Microorganisms depend on a specific enzyme to breathe. Silver particles disable these enzymes, and as a result the pathogens die. An ordinary antibiotic kills perhaps a half dozen different disease organisms; silver is known to kill more than 650 illness-causing microorganisms. Pathogens cannot develop a tolerance to it, making it a remarkable product for helping in the fight against pneumonia and bronchitis.

You can take silver products internally. However, the best way to knock out pneumonia or bronchitis fast is to breathe it into the lungs. That way the silver directly attacks the germs causing the pneumonia or bronchitis that are residing in the lungs. Which is what Respiratory Support is designed to do.


It works very fast. It is not uncommon for bronchitis or pneumonia to clear up in a couple of days.
The best way to get the colloidal silver into the lungs is to use a nebulizer which is a small device that takes Respiratory Support and atomizes it so that you can breathe it into the lungs. Usually, you only need to use it a teaspoon about 3 times a day - 10 to 15 minutes each time. Many times just for a day or two to clear it up. Respiratory Support is so gentle on your lungs, for the most severe cases, use it 5 or 6 times a day so that you hit the pathogens hard enough that you can knock them out before they regrow.


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We have used CS in a nebulizer before, I would recommend it!!
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